Is God sovereign or does Man co-reign? THIS time I'm teaching!

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Sovereign -- one who possesses supreme authority.

Yes, I get that we use the same word for any monarchy anywhere, but it doesn't have the same meaning. Earthly kings, even King David, did not possess supreme authority, because it was still a choice among the people if they would accept his authority. The former king did not. His son Absalom did not. God's sovereignty saved David often.

So what does God's sovereignty look like?

Job 38 answers that:
38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]“Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Dress for action like a man;
I will question you, and you make it known to me.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell me, if you have understanding.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Who determined its measurements—surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
[SUP]6 [/SUP]On what were its bases sunk,
or who laid its cornerstone,
[SUP]7 [/SUP]when the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
[SUP]8 [/SUP]“Or who shut in the sea with doors
when it burst out from the womb,
[SUP]9 [/SUP]when I made clouds its garment
and thick darkness its swaddling band,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]and prescribed limits for it
and set bars and doors,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]and said, ‘Thus far shall you come, and no farther,
and here shall your proud waves be stayed’?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]“Have you commanded the morning since your days began,
and caused the dawn to know its place,
[SUP]13 [/SUP]that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth,
and the wicked be shaken out of it?
[SUP]14 [/SUP]It is changed like clay under the seal,
and its features stand out like a garment.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]From the wicked their light is withheld,
and their uplifted arm is broken.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“Have you entered into the springs of the sea,
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Have the gates of death been revealed to you,
or have you seen the gates of deep darkness?
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?
Declare, if you know all this.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]“Where is the way to the dwelling of light,
and where is the place of darkness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]that you may take it to its territory
and that you may discern the paths to its home?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]You know, for you were born then,
and the number of your days is great!
[SUP]22 [/SUP]“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow,
or have you seen the storehouses of the hail,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]which I have reserved for the time of trouble,
for the day of battle and war?
[SUP]24 [/SUP]What is the way to the place where the light is distributed,
or where the east wind is scattered upon the earth?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]“Who has cleft a channel for the torrents of rain
and a way for the thunderbolt,
[SUP]26 [/SUP]to bring rain on a land where no man is,
on the desert in which there is no man,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]to satisfy the waste and desolate land,
and to make the ground sprout with grass?
[SUP]28 [/SUP]“Has the rain a father,
or who has begotten the drops of dew?
[SUP]29 [/SUP]From whose womb did the ice come forth,
and who has given birth to the frost of heaven?
[SUP]30 [/SUP]The waters become hard like stone,
and the face of the deep is frozen.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades
or loose the cords of Orion?
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season,
or can you guide the Bear with its children?
[SUP]33 [/SUP]Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you establish their rule on the earth?
[SUP]34 [/SUP]“Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,
that a flood of waters may cover you?
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go
and say to you, ‘Here we are’?
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Who has put wisdom in the inward parts
or given understanding to the mind?
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Who can number the clouds by wisdom?
Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens,
[SUP]38 [/SUP]when the dust runs into a mass
and the clods stick fast together?
[SUP]39 [/SUP]“Can you hunt the prey for the lion,
or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,
[SUP]40 [/SUP]when they crouch in their dens
or lie in wait in their thicket?
[SUP]41 [/SUP]Who provides for the raven its prey,
when its young ones cry to God for help,
and wander about for lack of food?

THAT is sovereignty that no man can touch! That is sovereignty where no man can refuse. That is the sovereignty of the Lord of Lords and King of the universe. No man can go where God will not have him go.

Don't believe me? Then take it up with Jonah, the prophet who did not want to do God's will.

So why do I bring this up? Because if you do not believe God is sovereign, your Christianity is in doubt! Because if you do not rejoice in the Lord reigning, why would you even say you believe in him? Because if you think you know what God should do in every, or any, situation, you are the tare in the field of wheat.

And because who in Hell do you think you are to counsel anyone having a rough time in marriage to get a divorce? It might well be God's sovereignty that the person should divorce, but who are you to make that decree for God?

So I ask what God asked, "Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?"

He is God. You are not!
 
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I always thank`/worship Jesus for leading and guiding me out of a marriage where I later
learned that my 'fake husband' was a worshipper and devout servant of satan...

this is what Jesus taught me, and the rest is beautiful, historical, history...:)
 
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I always thank`/worship Jesus for leading and guiding me out of a marriage where I later
learned that my 'fake husband' was a worshipper and devout servant of satan...

this is what Jesus taught me, and the rest is beautiful, historical, history...:)
And that's how to do it. Seek the Lord, not seek advice from whoever.
 
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Lynn,

I've always appreciated 'good-advice', if someone could or would give to me...:)