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    Default Re: 'We've just been told that a 'Truth-Teller' has been banned...

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    Must not be who I was thinking of then..lol
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    truth-teller doesn't exist

    Truth_teller doesn't exist either

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    No truth tellers around? Uh oh! Lol
    Jeepers Creepers...we gotta get new peepers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    I really love it when people are cryptic about this type of post.

    Obviously YOU have no idea what the unknown user was banned for or how many times that user was warned about whatever it was that they got banned for.

    As for the "heretics" you speak of that remain here I have said time and again that it is a literal IMPOSSIBILITY for the staff of this site to read every post in every thread in every forum in which case if a heretic is running rampant on this site it is because no one has reported them frequently enough for them to be on our radar. We do not allow persons in BLATANT heresy to remain here but of course half of Christendom defines heresy as a doctrine that does not agree with their personal doctrinal bent (we do not). We have always (and only) hung our hats on the essentials.
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    sometimes he can be so cynical... - we'll see...
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    Default Re: 'We've just been told that a 'Truth-Teller' has been banned...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    Truthteller is a nic that is registered but not used since 2015

    truth-teller doesn't exist

    Truth_teller doesn't exist either
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    Hay,
    I'm from the deep-south, I just can't help my corniness, sometimes...some will get it!
    hopefully at least '2'...

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    My absolute pleasure..


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    Default Re: 'We've just been told that a 'Truth-Teller' has been banned...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    I really love it when people are cryptic about this type of post.

    Obviously YOU have no idea what the unknown user was banned for or how many times that user was warned about whatever it was that they got banned for.

    As for the "heretics" you speak of that remain here I have said time and again that it is a literal IMPOSSIBILITY for the staff of this site to read every post in every thread in every forum in which case if a heretic is running rampant on this site it is because no one has reported them frequently enough for them to be on our radar. We do not allow persons in BLATANT heresy to remain here but of course half of Christendom defines heresy as a doctrine that does not agree with their personal doctrinal bent (we do not). We have always (and only) hung our hats on the essentials.
    This isn't a loaded question. Take it at face value, because I really would like to know.

    Is it okay if we talk about this "heretic" word a bit more with you in the open?

    For some reason, that never seems possible.
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    Default Re: 'We've just been told that a 'Truth-Teller' has been banned...

    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post
    This isn't a loaded question. Take it at face value, because I really would like to know.

    Is it okay if we talk about this "heretic" word a bit more with you in the open?

    For some reason, that never seems possible.
    It's just your good fortune that I happened to look back at this thread since I don't normally browse the Family Forum. I'm willing to discuss most things in public if I know someone wants to have said discussion and as long as that discussion remains respectful and civil (towards all parties involved).

    The biggest reason that I only (usually) stick my nose in BDF is to look into reported posts is because I can't stand watching persons who claim to be Christians going for each others jugular veins over (frequently) minor doctrinal differences.

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    Default Re: 'We've just been told that a 'Truth-Teller' has been banned...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    It's just your good fortune that I happened to look back at this thread since I don't normally browse the Family Forum. I'm willing to discuss most things in public if I know someone wants to have said discussion and as long as that discussion remains respectful and civil (towards all parties involved).

    The biggest reason that I only (usually) stick my nose in BDF is to look into reported posts is because I can't stand watching persons who claim to be Christians going for each others jugular veins over (frequently) minor doctrinal differences.
    Yeah, I've been going with limited contact there too, and don't have to. lol

    Soo, basic question -- which major doctrinal differences qualify?

    Despite my beliefs, (unrepentant Reformer/Calvinist with a semi-preterist's view), I honestly don't think Calvinism/Arminianism, OSAS, eschatology, flat earth, evolution, and most things on BDF are heretical. But there are people teaching some things that is heretical. They're just nice about it, so I never considered reporting it for "heretical."

    I just thought you gave infractions for being rude, inappropriate, etc. Or, for the sake of the person's mental health.

    So, could you run down the list of heretical in your mind? (And, I do understand, if it's coming off the top of your head, it will likely be an incomplete list.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post
    Yeah, I've been going with limited contact there too, and don't have to. lol

    Soo, basic question -- which major doctrinal differences qualify?

    Despite my beliefs, (unrepentant Reformer/Calvinist with a semi-preterist's view), I honestly don't think Calvinism/Arminianism, OSAS, eschatology, flat earth, evolution, and most things on BDF are heretical. But there are people teaching some things that is heretical. They're just nice about it, so I never considered reporting it for "heretical."

    I just thought you gave infractions for being rude, inappropriate, etc. Or, for the sake of the person's mental health.

    So, could you run down the list of heretical in your mind? (And, I do understand, if it's coming off the top of your head, it will likely be an incomplete list.)
    Let me say this first. We do not necessarily ban every user immediately for supporting heresy. Some of it comes down to our perception of the user since some persons that proclaim heresy are correctable whereas others are clearly attempting to promote and spread their heresy. In other words, just because someone doesn't get removed immediately for promoting heresy doesn't mean that we won't remove them eventually if they continue in it.

    This is not all inclusive just some of the more common:

    Rejecting the deity/eternity of Christ

    Rejection of the Trinity (we tend to allow wiggle room for Oneness Pentecostals) but we do hold that Modalism/Seballianism is heresy

    Rejecting the omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence of God

    Rejecting the Pauline Epistles

    Universalism (eventually everyone goes to Heaven)

    Serpent Seed

    Aryan Israelism

    Afro Israelism


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    I like the one about Universalism....

    Most people swear Revelation is about THE END of the world. Yet the last part of Revelation talks about the gates never being shut, and the river of Life and the tree (Jesus) for the healing of the nations, flowing out of the New Jerusalem.

    Why heal the nations if they are no longer there to be healed? Aren't they already in Hell, and beyond any hope?

    Personally, I think Revelation means exactly what it says...... because I believe Revelation was written as addressing a time a couple of thousand years ago..... when the water flowing was (and still is) for the healing of the nations.

    But, to believe Revelation is true, (and I think we all do) and those things do exist to heal the nations......... how are you not teaching universalism if you say all that is after they have been judged and sent to Hell.......... yet, they continue to have a chance to be saved??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie-T View Post
    I like the one about Universalism....

    Most people swear Revelation is about THE END of the world. Yet the last part of Revelation talks about the gates never being shut, and the river of Life and the tree (Jesus) for the healing of the nations, flowing out of the New Jerusalem.

    Why heal the nations if they are no longer there to be healed? Aren't they already in Hell, and beyond any hope?

    Personally, I think Revelation means exactly what it says...... because I believe Revelation was written as addressing a time a couple of thousand years ago..... when the water flowing was (and still is) for the healing of the nations.

    But, to believe Revelation is true, (and I think we all do) and those things do exist to heal the nations......... how are you not teaching universalism if you say all that is after they have been judged and sent to Hell.......... yet, they continue to have a chance to be saved??
    Revelation is about the end of the [ present ] world -- and -- it is also about the next world - the new heaven and new earth. ( Revelation 21:1 )

    Don't confuse individuals with nations, nor present nations with nations-to-come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paisley_buddie View Post
    I take it... it is against the rules to name the truth teller?
    If I understand things correctly ( and, if I don't - Jim, please correct me ) -- no actual rule exists that states that it is not okay for members to merely mention such - or, even ask about such - from other members.

    For the most part, the site staff does not want members asking them - why - someone got banned. They also do not want members having intense discussion about someone being banned - such that it creates an "uproar" concerning it.

    However, I don't think they mind if members make simple inquiry - or, have simple discussions about - someone having been banned -- such as that which has been posted in this thread. I really don't think they even mind if someone is "named" ( as you indicate in the quote above ) - strictly for the sake of identification of the member ( because, people will naturally be curious and wondering... ) --- as long as it does not cause an "uproar" among the members that results in a "problem" for the site staff.
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    Default Re: 'We've just been told that a 'Truth-Teller' has been banned...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oncefallen View Post
    Let me say this first. We do not necessarily ban every user immediately for supporting heresy. Some of it comes down to our perception of the user since some persons that proclaim heresy are correctable whereas others are clearly attempting to promote and spread their heresy. In other words, just because someone doesn't get removed immediately for promoting heresy doesn't mean that we won't remove them eventually if they continue in it.

    This is not all inclusive just some of the more common:

    Rejecting the deity/eternity of Christ

    Rejection of the Trinity (we tend to allow wiggle room for Oneness Pentecostals) but we do hold that Modalism/Seballianism is heresy

    Rejecting the omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence of God

    Rejecting the Pauline Epistles

    Universalism (eventually everyone goes to Heaven)

    Serpent Seed

    Aryan Israelism

    Afro Israelism




    I had to look up some of those phrases. I didn't even know there were people who believed some of it.

    But it does raise two more questions, (which might end up more, but I really didn't think I'd be asking more this time):
    1. Universalism -- like Pelgagianism?
    2. What about the Prosperity Gospel or its offspring -- WoF and "not WoF?" (If you don't know the last one, it's WoF, but they've taken out the catch phrases, like "word of faith.")

    Also, I'm very pro-wiggle-room. I've been known to report, not to ask that the person be banned, but that you just let them know what they're doing isn't appropriate. Often, they just don't know, and they tend to think no one can tell them what they can do, free speech, blahblahblah.


    BTW, thanks for this. I really didn't know, have been dying of curiosity, but thought we couldn't talk about it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryA View Post
    Revelation is about the end of the [ present ] world -- and -- it is also about the next world - the new heaven and new earth. ( Revelation 21:1 )

    Don't confuse individuals with nations, nor present nations with nations-to-come.
    If you feel Rev is speaking of a time somewhere in our future when all the unbelievers have been judged and sent to Hell.... how do you explain those things I wrote about? Are those convicted and sentenced people getting a second chance? If not, then who is that healing of leaves and river for? (The "Saints" are already totally recreated at that final time, forever.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie-T View Post
    If you feel Rev is speaking of a time somewhere in our future when all the unbelievers have been judged and sent to Hell.... how do you explain those things I wrote about? Are those convicted and sentenced people getting a second chance? If not, then who is that healing of leaves and river for? (The "Saints" are already totally recreated at that final time, forever.)
    Last time I checked, we still have seas... Not to mention, death, sorrow, crying, pain, ...
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    Default Re: 'We've just been told that a 'Truth-Teller' has been banned...

    Basically you might get banned if you are a glass half full type of person, which explains why there are a lot of glass half empty people on this site!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post

    I had to look up some of those phrases. I didn't even know there were people who believed some of it.

    But it does raise two more questions, (which might end up more, but I really didn't think I'd be asking more this time):
    1. Universalism -- like Pelgagianism?
    2. What about the Prosperity Gospel or its offspring -- WoF and "not WoF?" (If you don't know the last one, it's WoF, but they've taken out the catch phrases, like "word of faith.")

    Universalism basically says that everyone (Christian, Buddhist, atheist, etc) all get to heaven in the end.

    Pelagianism says that we, as humans, are capable of achieving perfection this side of the grave without the help of God a variant of Pelgianism today is Sinless Perfection which basically says that true Christians no longer sin (at all, ever).

    In reality, by far the majority of heresies floating around Christendom today are merely recycled heresies that date back to the early church. If you look at the early church councils and creeds, all of them were to codify proper doctrine in order to combat heresies.

    As far as WoF and it's variants, site Administration DOES NOT agree with these doctrines and I would go as gar as saying that some of the doctrines that have come out of these movements are outright dangerous but they would fall more under that category that RoboOp would call quirky doctrine versus outright heresy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryA View Post
    Last time I checked, we still have seas... Not to mention, death, sorrow, crying, pain, ...
    In Revelation, we are confronted with all the Biblical connotations of numerous images: water, light, fire, clouds, angels, stars, lamps, food, stones, swords, thrones, rainbows, robes, thunder, voices, animals, wings, scavengers, eyes, keys, trumpets, plagues, mountains, winds, seas, altars, blood, locusts, trees, heads, horns, and crowns.

    Revelation also presents us with pictures of a Woman, a Dragon, a wilderness, a mark in the forehead, a sickle, pearls, a winepress, a cup of wine, a Harlot, a river, Sodom, Egypt, Babylon, resurrection, a wedding, a marriage supper, the Bridegroom, and the Bride/City in the shape of a pyramid. And then there's the use of symbolic numbers: two, three, four, seven, ten, twelve, and multiples thereof—24, 42, 144, 666, 1,000, 1,260, 7,000, 12,000, and 144,000.

    And in all that, you want to pick "seas" disappearing as being literal?

    This is why it's necessary to understand the Bible and its use of symbols and patterns if we are ever to understand the Book of Revelation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie-T View Post
    In Revelation, we are confronted with all the Biblical connotations of numerous images: water, light, fire, clouds, angels, stars, lamps, food, stones, swords, thrones, rainbows, robes, thunder, voices, animals, wings, scavengers, eyes, keys, trumpets, plagues, mountains, winds, seas, altars, blood, locusts, trees, heads, horns, and crowns.

    Revelation also presents us with pictures of a Woman, a Dragon, a wilderness, a mark in the forehead, a sickle, pearls, a winepress, a cup of wine, a Harlot, a river, Sodom, Egypt, Babylon, resurrection, a wedding, a marriage supper, the Bridegroom, and the Bride/City in the shape of a pyramid. And then there's the use of symbolic numbers: two, three, four, seven, ten, twelve, and multiples thereof—24, 42, 144, 666, 1,000, 1,260, 7,000, 12,000, and 144,000.

    And in all that, you want to pick "seas" disappearing as being literal?

    This is why it's necessary to understand the Bible and its use of symbols and patterns if we are ever to understand the Book of Revelation.
    So - you believe that Revelation is 100% non-literal - 0% literal...?

    Absolutely nothing is literal? None of the events described are actual events?

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