you hate ilegal mexicans?

[mexicanfriend]

okkk, 2 points of view:

American ponit of view:

I don't want to generalize, 4 of my best friends are from USA, I love americans, but I don't like racist people, and I'm not talking only racist people with mexico, but I hate racism people with mexicans, caucasians, asians, africans, and all races. I just hate racism.

some of the american people used to come to Mexico to help us in our poor neighborhoods here in Mexico.


but some racist people say this:

oh no! mexicans! ilegal aliens! is like it were terrorism!!! oh noo! wee need to deport them all...they are so bad...only criminals...let's create the california preposition 187 prohibit illegal inmigrants from using health care, public education, and other social services in the U.S. State of California. let's create the arizona prpoposition!!

okk you know?( I say again I'm not genelalizing, I love americans but the nice ones) we mexicans are humans too. and no all mexicans are gang members, drug dillers, or bad people, like in any race there are bad people and good people.

we work hard, we take in the harvest, we take care of your kids when you're working in the office, we wash your dishes,we help you contructing your buildings, and I'm not ashamed of that. I'm proud of my race that works so hard...

and I'm not complaining, because somebody needs to do that kind of jobs, and we mexicans can do that.
is like to be lawyer, or a medic, is a job too.

so we go to work hard in hard in USA(no all mexicans not generalizing again, there are mexicans that only go to break the law) because here in Mexico, our race works a lot but they don't earn money as in USA.

in USA a mexican can earn 3 or 4 times more than here in Mexico, and Ilegal, and if we complain they can deport us...can you see it? is a good a bussiness for americans to have ilegall employeess!, and I'm not complaining, I'm just going with the truth.

yes is true, a high percent of gangs in USA are of latin-hispanic people, OK? but not all latins. pl I'm not a sheep, a saint! but Jesus told us:

"who is free of guiltiness throw the first stone"


and here in Mexico, we help salvadorians, people from guatemala, honduras,and people who cross the border...

people that is ilegal in Mexico too
, I'm mexican nationalist too, but if somebody is starving, I'm going to give him food, if he is thirsty,I 'm going to give him water, I don't care if he's american, asian, afroamerican or whatever.


people that came to Mexico, cause is going to cross the usa border, and they come in train, we trhow them bottles of water and bags of food, of course We don't like gangs from other countries, like Mara Salvatrucha 13 or 18, but we help the poor people that doesn't have nothing in his country, and they wish to have better oportunities of Job.

Jesus told US

"when I was hungry, you gave me food,-when Lord?- when you gave food to one of them you gave food to me"

"God Will have mercy of peope who is merciful"


"Don't be bad with foreign people"

"the people how works deserve eating"

and all the last phrases are in the Bible.


I'm telling this because yesterday, 4 americans got very racist with their comments, and jokes, I joke about my race, people here in the CC knows me about I'm a joker, but sometimes the jokes go so far away, and if you're not mexican why do you say jokes about mexicans? and in a hurting way, no just for kidding, but for make us feel bad.


thanks so much my dear friends for your understanding, And you're welcome to Mexico maybe for visiting.

A big hug for my american friends.

[Fernando]

Wise words, I see that there are a lot of racists phrases here in CC. I think this is unacceptable, because we all are children of the same God. It doesn't matter my native language, my job, my country, if I live in a farm or in a big city. If you don't want communion, then why are you here?

[lightbliss]

Your statement is a contradiction.

Don't take this the wrong way but maybe I'm the only one to notice that Mexicans, U.S citizens, and Canadians are all Americans, why, because Canada + United States + Mexico = the continent America.

So if "Americans" feel this way, then we all (U.S/Canada/Mexico) feel this way.

I'm not for rude behavior, no matter who the person is or what they've done, but I don't support illegal immigration, 'cause it's illegal for a reason.

But I understand what you're saying, some people (in general) treat others as though they have rabies, we should all be respectful and kind.

[jimmydiggs]

Wow. Ironic. Just dealt with this similar subject in Boys State a few days ago.

The two governor candidates were a south korean that has lived america for four years, and a black kid whose lived here all his life. black kid won, a lot of people made fun of the south korean for his accent, and broken english.

One racist white kid said, "people from other countries, can't lead anything in America". I asked the group, "Is there anyone here who is 100% American? I'm not talking about being born in America, I'm talking about Choctaw, Cherokee, Kiowa, Sac and Fox, Kansa, Arapaho, or Seminole? Everyone of us is here because someone else migrated here, whether you are white, black, asian, latin, or smurf... someone had to leave somewhere to get here."

Immigration is good, but needs to be controled. Remember, you arn't really American. The Cherokee are. Our prescense on this continent is relatively new.

Mexican kid, who had lived in Mexico City, and has been in America for four years, agreed with my statement.

[jimmydiggs]

My best friend in 4th and 5th grade in Nebraska City, was an Illegal.

One day asked him how he got to America if he was born in Mexico city. Dreadful silence came over him, and he looked at the ground. I told him, "I don't care if you are legal or illegal, you are my friend, that is all that matters to me."


I experienced the language barrier, because that school was 1/2 mexican, and most of my friends were mexicans, because the whites didn't like me, I'm just a good ol' Kansas kid. Grew up on a farm, left the farm and Nebraskans don't like Kansas.

[grace]

I am of the mindset that in scripture says that we are to follow the laws of the land.

I don't care if you are purple with orange spots....if you want to come live in this country....or any other country that you are not native to...then you need to set that as a goal, plan, and execute that plan to achieve your goal.

I can hear it now, "you don't know how hard it is with no money...poor circumstances etc etc".

I recently read a story online about a girl in Florida who was homeless and graduated high school AND also a full ride scholarship to a university.
It reminded me of the Liz Murray story. A girl who was homeless and ended up going to Harvard.

We all have circumstances in our life that at times seem to make things difficult.

Follow the laws, go to the country that you want...LEGALLY. You will be welcomed by me with open arms.

[Stand_Up_4_God]

Originally Posted by grace

I am of the mindset that in scripture says that we are to follow the laws of the land.

I don't care if you are purple with orange spots....if you want to come live in this country....or any other country that you are not native to...then you need to set that as a goal, plan, and execute that plan to achieve your goal.

I can hear it now, "you don't know how hard it is with no money...poor circumstances etc etc".

I recently read a story online about a girl in Florida who was homeless and graduated high school AND also a full ride scholarship to a university.
It reminded me of the Liz Murray story. A girl who was homeless and ended up going to Harvard.

We all have circumstances in our life that at times seem to make things difficult.

Follow the laws, go to the country that you want...LEGALLY. You will be welcomed by me with open arms.

I agree with you Grace,I mean there's people all over the world that are poor as it gets. It's not just one race. Honestly, I think the original poster should look a them self, no offense, but this along with another post, about ''imagine if you were Mexican and/or poor'' come on...that was a bit over board don't you think? I mean what if someone posted that saying ''white'' or ''black'' or ''indian'' or whatever other race? Would that spark a huge problem on here? yes it would.I'm not raciest at all, I love everyone I do believe we are and need to follow the laws of the land as God's word tells us. If you go anywhere in the world, not just America, you should do it legally and avoid problems of all sorts. If we were to go to Mexico,Canada,anywhere other than our ''homeland'' or whatever, would they not require us to obey their laws of the land and so on? yes they would, as they should. Therefore, we are not being raciest just for having set laws to be followed. Nor are they. Anyhow, that's all I'll say for now. There's people all over the world, and soooo many in America that are poor,homeless, etc. and people discredit that. They have this image that the world has portrayed that America has it totally made in every aspect. Yes we have freedom and everything, but don't think we don't have major issues as well. Look at our economy! It's the worst in history I do believe. We have people that are abused,poor,sick,etc. just the same exact whats and amounts as other parts of the world. I feel compassion for ALL of them no matter who or where they are. I would love to help each and every single one out there if I had that power, sadly I don't. We need to just love one another as Christ loves us, and worry about doing our best to follow God's word and everything. We shouldn't hate anyone, even our enemies so to speak. God says to LOVE and BLESS and even PRAY FOR our enemies. These threads, while started with a true concern, should be carefully written, as to not cause a much more serious and major issue. Love,God bless, and praying for all!

[haley4jesus]

People who cross a border and don't have a right to cross that border are called ''illegal'' for a reason. I live in Phoenix, we have lots and lots of ''illegals'' living here. I do not feel hatred against them. Do I feel they are wrong to want to be here? No, I don't. I can see why they want to be here. But they need to do it the right way. There's a few things I don't understand.

Why does someone leave a country claiming it to be sad and how we don't understand how difficult you have it there. Then you march in the capital city, declaring your love for that sad country that you almost died trying to leave. People die by the dozens, crossing the hot desolate border area getting into Arizona. Yet you march in my country, waving your Mexican flag. And what I hear in your statement is that anyone who doesn't agree with you is basically a racist. I have lots of Mexican friends, I work with them.

I don't see you as a color, a race. I see you as a person who has the ability to make me smile and who I can enjoy being with. So please, don't see me as a racist simply because I believe in a right way to do something.

[Stand_Up_4_God]

Oh, also, there have been many things in our online newspaper around here, about some illegals and even legals here that was arrested for drugs,and many other things. Needless to say there were many racist comments from ALL races put upon the forum like thing. It totally sickened and disgusted me. We need to stop attacking one another, that's all there is to it. We all have downfalls and things, but yeah....just some things to think about.

[Rissa77]

Some laws stink... but yea. We have to follow them. Unless we can get them repealed.. oooo...
But no, we shouldn't enforce them with racism and bitterness.

I love Mexico. I've been to Chihuahua City. BEAUTIFUL people and BEAUTIFUL culture.

I was also raised in Houston for most of my rememberable childhood, went to a 90% latino school, was picked on because I was blonde, but hey I had some great mexican friends. Still do. Still waiting til I am bilingual. I love the language!

I've experienced racism first hand. I know how it feels. I hate it too.

[NodMyHeadLikeYeah]

we work hard, we take in the harvest, we take care of your kids when you're working in the office, we wash your dishes,we help you contructing your buildings, and I'm not ashamed of that. I'm proud of my race that works so hard...


i love what you said right there.

However the law says you cannot be in another country without the proper documentation. Im not sure why people dont understand that. I would never go into a country illegally, then get angry when they wanted to kick me out.

Is it just me, or did I see NO racist examples in the first post?

"We should deny illegal Mexicans many American privileges and deport them all!" YES

Key word- Illegal. They're criminals, and should be treated as such, end of story. It's not racism, it's the law (which has NOTHING against Latino people, it's more about nationality than skin colour). Now, as in all criminal situations, they should be dealt with in as peaceful a way as possible. Randomly going up to an illegal and beating the crap out of 'em is definitely not acceptable, just as it's not acceptable to pummel a shoplifter. I'm sure MANY of their intentions are good, but so are the intentions of those who go 100mph 'cause "nobody's around", or do illegal drugs because "it doesn't hurt anyone."

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't HATE them. Like I said, I believe many of them are decent people just wanting to make a living. But the sad truth is that they're wrong in what they're doing, and they know it too =( If they're starving or w/e like you said, give them a meal, then send them back home.

[tryingtofindhim]

I agree racisim needs to stop. I will say this I don't hate any race, but it annoys me when you go to another country and they expect you to learn English, but when people come to America they want you to learn their language instead of the other way around. I mean being required to learn spanish. I'm not against that, but why is it that we have to learn Spanish if English is our language? Please don't take the the wrong way and if you can fine a way to correct me please do. I honestly don't understand.

[jimmydiggs]

Originally Posted by tryingtofindhim

I agree racisim needs to stop. I will say this I don't hate any race, but it annoys me when you go to another country and they expect you to learn English, but when people come to America they want you to learn their language instead of the other way around. I mean being required to learn spanish. I'm not against that, but why is it that we have to learn Spanish if English is our language? Please don't take the the wrong way and if you can fine a way to correct me please do. I honestly don't understand.

There is no de jure official language in the United States, but english is the de facto.

A few Mexican friends of mine (immigrants), an older friend of mine who is retired from international business in South America, and others, agree... "when in my country, speak my language... when in your country, we will speak your language."

I know why people move ilegally, it is because sometimes legally is impossible (really).

An example, is a story that I saw, of a UK person (it is not even a latino), that was refused entry on the US.

Reason: The immigration claimed that he was lieing when he said that he had a Ph.d, because he was...

blind.


Yes, the person, a UK citizen was denied entry in the US, because was blind. After a while he tried again, and found out that he was put in a list of permanently banned people, for "lieing" to the immigration.

I am from Brazil, and I plan to move to Canada myself (not because I want to get money on Canada, like actually most immigrants do, but it is because I dislike Brazil, I want some other country nationality, and I will renounce my Brazilian citizenship), and to move to any state that is not Quebec, you need to have a degree in some really specific areas, like mining technology, and some other wierd stuff, or be a refugee, but refugees are only people that live in countries officially in civil war (I live in a place with murder rate high as Iraq, I got guns pointed at me, I saw firefights from my bedroom, and yet, I am NOT a refugee...). So, several laws make impossible to immigrate, thus people take the illegal way, in hope at least, that they won't die in their own country from violence, or from some other problem (famine, diseases, etc...)

[zeroturbulence]

I think Arizona will soon have the death penalty for illegals....but of course we shouldn't misunderstand that as being racist.

[1still_waters]

America has a welcome mat and a front door. Just knock and we'll do the things necessary to get you in, under our ways.

Problem is folks don't want to use the welcome mat and they don't want to use the front door.

Instead they want to smash a window, then they grab a broom and start sweepin the kitchen floor. When the owner comes downstairs and sees someone they don't know sweepin the floor, they get mad cuz someone broke in.

Now the person sweepin the floor is like, "Hey what's it matter? Your floor needed sweepin anyways!"

To which the home owner says, "BUT YOU BROKE IN MY HOUSE!"

To which the broom sweeper might say, "But I don't have a house and there is plenty of room and you got tons of work around here I could do and I need a job. So whats the problem?"

To which the home owner says, "BUT YOU BROKE IN TO MY HOUSE!!!"

To which the broom sweeper says, "What do I look like a burgular?"

To which the home owner says, "BUT YOU BROKE IN TO MY HOUSE!!!"

Ok, so yeah illegals have tons of reasons to justify bein here. But like in my lil insta-parable there.......

'YOU BROKE IN TO MY HOUSE!!!"

[zeroturbulence]

Borders are sooo overrated. If mexicans could come here unimpeded by laws what will be the worst case-sceneraio? More able-bodied workers willing to do an honest day's work for very reasonable pay, doing jobs that most americans would rather not do like harvesting produce and lawn maintenance.

I think the criminals would rather stay in mexico where they can take advantage of the corruption and weak law enforcement.

[1still_waters]

Originally Posted by zeroturbulence

Borders are sooo overrated. If mexicans could come here unimpeded by laws what will be the worst case-sceneraio? More able-bodied workers willing to do an honest day's work for very reasonable pay, doing jobs that most americans would rather not do like harvesting produce and lawn maintenance.

The issue isn't just about borders. It's about security. 911 changed everything.

As far as that line about illegals doing work Americans won't do, that's a buncha rubbish.

Americans will do those jobs, but they won't do them for the under cut wages that illegals will charge.

Americans will mow lawns and pick berries. Those are called summer jobs and teenagers have been doing them forever!

[1still_waters]

If "that's a buncha rubbish" came across harshly, my apologies. I should of said, "that's just not true."