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Old June 19th, 2010
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Default dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

JesusChrist told us:

"when I was hungry, you gave me food,-when Lord?- when you gave food to one of them you gave food to me"

"God Will have mercy of peope who is merciful"


"Don't be bad with foreign people"

"the people how works deserve eating"

and all the these phrases are in the Bible.

READ THIS...WHAT IF YOU GHANGE THE ROLL? NOW YOU'RE LATIN, OR MEXICAN...(Ilegal)

just one question...What if you were so poor, you lived in a third world country, you have 10 children(well to have a lot of kids yes, I accept that's our mistake) you're wife and your family is starving, your kids tells you crying -Dad, Dad I'm starving!! my shoes are very old and my feet are bleeding-.

one of your daughter is dieing!! they are sick and you don't have enough money to buy them medicine????

and, you can't have time with your kids and family because, you need to work 13 hours every dayy...for just a little bit of money. and you have a recces every 2 weeks.

you have a big backache, you're getting hunchbacked...becuase you work a lot.

your 2 oldest boys need to left the school, because they need to bring money to your house too, so they start working too. and for just a little bit of money, but a lot of hours."

their kids say: "mom! Dad! we're going to try to cross the border we are going to live with our other family our cousins in East Los Angeles! or I San Diego with our uncle, or in new york or miami with our other cousins"

so is when starts the real nightmare...1000 dollars each one need to pay for crossing ilegal the border.

it was so dificult for them to cross, but they could! they almost die.

when they arrive to usa, they see that is so different the country, and is not very friendly with ilegal people

so they go to live a mexican neighborhood with their cousins. but they miss their ranch their family, and everything...

they don't speak english!! so they try to always stay in his neighborhood.

they get a job...their boss pay them much less than legals, and if they complain...they can be deported, but they don't complain, becuase still is less than legals, they still earn much more money than in mexico, El savador, guatemala, Honduras, Etc.

they send money to their family, and they feel good about that.

but it was so difficult, fo them to addapt to other country, still they lived in Mexican community.


if you see a mexican in the street walking don't deport him, think...what if I were he/she?

what if he were my son? my daughter??

better help him or her...and you will gain a mexicanfriend!

well if he's a criminal that's other thing, but if he's just a normal person? a worker? don't deport him.

be merciful.

hug for my american brothers and sisters.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

Ive worked with a couple of illegals who were hired by a company I used to work for and they were by far the BEST workers I ever met. They never complained, always did a good job, did what you told them to, and worked long hours and weekends without whining about it. Plus...they were nice guys who were actually fun to work with. They spoke english since they've been here most of their lives, but still had trouble understanding some words.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

Jesus also said obey the law. If the law says not to cross a border under certain terms, then you can't cross that border.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

Like I said in the other post.

America has a front door and a welcome mat. But instead folks want to break in through a window, start sweepin the floors and assume the home owner will welcome them simply because they're doing some work.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

If we can pick and choose which laws to obey based on poverty, then we can't arrest anyone who may steal food or rob a bank based on need. Right?
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

yes 1 still waters...I agree with you in one thing, to be poor doesn't justify to steal food or rob a bank.

but you can be "poor and honest" is not the same to be "poor" and to be a "thief or a criminal"

and if I go to "usa", is for working hard like zeroturbulence said, not for stealing food or rob a bank.

ok, and yes we need to obey the law agree with that...Jesus told us that.

but he told us"don't judge nobody if you don't want them to judge you"

for the people who is not agree with ilegals, but they told me that in a kind way, thank you very much, because that's the way Jesus had told me that, not in a in a rude way but yes going to the truth but, with love.

for your comprehension thanks.

God Bless you all.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

But if you come here illegally,that shows you are not honest!

You want to break a law, then appeal to being honest.

I don't know how else to respond without sounding demeaning and sarcastic, so I'll just end with that.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

The problem here is illegal. I have no issue with mexican immigrants. If anyone is here illegally they should be deported, I don't care if they are from mars. Illegal immigrants are a huge drain on our system. See California's broken budget. Colorado is fast approaching the same situation. The cause? Too many illegal laborers not contributing to the system, but using its services. Simply put become a legal citizen and pay taxes. Illegal immigration is a huge burden on our health care system and is hurting our schools in very real and measurable ways.

It is nothing personal and is not based on race. I'd have the same problem with illegal German immigrants, or even illegal Martian immigrants.

Now I can understand it is difficult to become a citizen, but I am reminded of a recent event in which one certain illegal immigrant was deported after being in the US for 14 years and owning his own auto parts store. There is no excuse for this behavior.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

come to canada if you can handle the snow & mosquitos...

My step mom is from the philipinnes, I've learned the value of what I take forgranted by seeing it through her eyes. She is not illegal but i gotta tell you, If I had to live a life of absolute poverty I cant say that I wouldnt be tempted to take the risk & rush a boarder to freedom.

The main issue is how to get them to pay their taxes... perhaps it equates to massive penalties to those caught employing illegals... just an idea.
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Default Re: dear american imagine you were mexican. ( or you were from any poor country)

I happen to agree that the problem really stems from employers. Employers can employee illegals, not pay them benifits, not cover them with workmens comp, and not pay state, federal and social security tax. So its a win for the employer. The illegal imigrant gets screwed, he/she gets no insureance, no workers comp insurange and social security to assist with retirement. It would be good if we made it easier for the them to enter legally and become citizens. I don't blame them for coming here, I only blame them for coming here illegally.
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