Would You Read Someone's Diary/Personal Journal?

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I would read someone's diary without permission if it belonged to:

  • a child (under 18), and I suspected they were getting into trouble.

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • a child, and I had no suspicions of them engaging in anything wrong.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • the friend of my child--it could give me clues to what my own child is doing.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • a significant other, and I suspected them of doing something wrong.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • a significant other, and I had no suspicions of them doing something wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • adult offspring (over 18) who are still living in my household.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I have other thoughts and examples I would like to explain in my post.

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • It is never acceptable to read someone's personal writings without permission.

    Votes: 5 45.5%

  • Total voters
    11

seoulsearch

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Hello Everyone,
I am writing this thread after pondering a story that a co-worker shared with me today. I've decided to turn it into a poll and I realize the choices will be imperfect and in some cases, incomplete, but I think you'll get an idea of the discussion I'm looking for in this thread.

This is a multiple choice poll, so feel free to choose any and all answers that you agree with. Most of all, I am hoping for some specific answers/posts from people who may have experienced this in some way so please feel free to share your thoughts. Even if you have not experienced these types of situations, please feel free to write your thoughts and opinions--all are welcome.

When I was about 26 years old, I was introduced to a guy who said he was a Christian and we started spending time together. He was raised by a strongly believing mother and grandmother, knew the Scriptures better than I did, and his personal study Bible had more notes and signs of use than my last three Bibles put together.

However, he was open about the fact that sex (specifically, pornography and a fascination with "alternative" sex cultures such as sadomasochism) had been his downfall since puberty, but he said he'd done away with all that six months before he met me and was trying to go for a clean start. He said a girl like me would be perfect for him, someone to supposedly keep him on track towards his re-dedication to Christ. This was the first time I had dated someone I could really talk to about faith and the Bible, and I was more than willing to give it a chance.

The first time I saw his personal journal, it was lying out in the living room of the house he was sharing with some friends. It had a blank cover and so at first, I didn't realize it was a journal, but of course, after reading the first few lines, I knew what it was, but that didn't stop me. In our real-life conversations, he was elusive and although he talked about me being good for him, always changed the subject when I asked about an actual commitment and relationship. In his journal, he had written several pages about whether or not I could be "the one" but would never talk about it in real life.

The second time I read his journal, he had moved a few hours away and I had gone to see him (he had no car and no money, so I went to visit him). He left his backpack with me and told me he had to "run some errands" and would be back.

Like a moth to a flame, I opened the pages of the book to the point where I had last left off, and I guess I paid the price.

He wrote about a girl he'd met at the new place he was working... and that the two of them were going to meet up the next day after I had left. He wrote of their plans in detail. Let's just say, although they both worked at a coffee shop, they weren't meeting for coffee.

This was the first person I had dated after my husband had left me for someone else about a year and a half ago (I had been officially and legally divorced a year before I started dating, and my husband had divorced me, though I had begged him to reconsider and we had tried counseling and all the good things people recommend for crumbling marriages.) I had come home from work as usual and my husband had moved out without saying a word while I was gone--I just walked in the door, started looking around, and felt the numbing shock that half the house was gone. It wasn't until a year later that I found out that my husband had found someone else while we were still married and had left me to be with her.

Fast forward to my current story--I read about this guy's detailed "non-coffee" plans with this other girl, closed the book, and stared at the wall. I felt my heart tearing into pieces, but I blanked out my emotions as best I could and made the resolve in my heart that I would never go out with him again. I stopped taking his calls, made myself unavailable when he asked for me, and eventually told him it wasn't working out and that it was time to move on. I never told him about what I'd done.

Despite the circumstances, as I look back at this, I feel I was, of course, wrong to look at his personal belongings and if faced with the situation again, would try my best to put the book down without reading it, pray that God would show me anything I needed to know, and leave it at that.

Now, take in contrast, my co-worker: in a similar situation, she found her step-daughter's diary lying open on the living room table and said, "If she didn't care about someone reading it, she wouldn't have left it out like that." My co-worker read the entire thing... and found some things she did not like at all. She plans to confront her step-daughter about it and I found myself wondering what I'd do in a similar situation.

I realize it is completely different in the case of a minor you are responsible for as a parent.

But what if the things you found in your child's diary were not about sex or drinking or drugs, but rather, thoughts such as, "I can't stand my Mom. She won't let me do anything, and she tells me not to do this or that, even though I know she was doing those things at the same age," or, "My Dad is the biggest hypocrite. He tells me what to do all the time and how I have to obey because God says so, but I see him doing just the opposite of what he tells me to do all the time. If I have to obey the rules, why doesn't he?"

Would you confront your child about these issues?

I apologize that many of my threads tie in several trains of thought at once, but I wasn't entirely sure how to break this one down into specifics.

I would like to know:

1. Under what conditions would you read someone's diary, if any, and would you confront them? Why or why not? Do you feel it is ever justifiable to read someone's personal thoughts without permission?

2. Have you ever experienced this already yourself, whether involving an adult or a child, and how did it turn out?

3. If you are the person whose diary was read and the person who read it confronted you, what happened, and what did it do to your sense of trust?

God bless, and thank you so much for sharing.
 
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MissMaryMac

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#2
Honestly.
Acceptable? No. Would I do it? Yes.
But I'd never confront them, because then they'd know I did it. I might kind of hint and give them opportunity to tell me the stuff they wrote about. But would never bluntly go out and say that I read it.
Because I'm a horrible person like that.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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#3
It is never right to read someone personal journal weather they are a child or young person no matter what its wrong. Its to vent things out. If you suspect something, there are other ways of finding out rather than reading their journal. If you read their journal and they find out, you will lose all trust and they probably shut you out more than they are already are.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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#4
If my child were not talking to me, and i suspected there was something really bad going on. Then yes, without a doubt i would read it.
 

seoulsearch

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In the above example of my co-worker and her step-daughter--although my co-worker had no reason initially to be suspicious, the diary states that this young girl (I won't give exact details to protect the person's privacy, even though neither of these people are on CC), who is well below the age of 15, is having sex with a boy at school.

This puts my co-worker in a tough spot. She only sees her step-daughter a few times a month and does not get along with the biological mother at all (the biological mother has a revolving door of boyfriends and dates those with the most money, earned through illegal means.)

She is very concerned that this girl will get pregnant, especially since this girl has friends who are her age and younger who are pregnant as well.
 
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lightbliss

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#6
^^

I think this is a prime example of when someone should be confronted.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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#7
In the above example of my co-worker and her step-daughter--although my co-worker had no reason initially to be suspicious, the diary states that this young girl (I won't give exact details to protect the person's privacy, even though neither of these people are on CC), who is well below the age of 15, is having sex with a boy at school.

This puts my co-worker in a tough spot. She only sees her step-daughter a few times a month and does not get along with the biological mother at all (the biological mother has a revolving door of boyfriends and dates those with the most money, earned through illegal means.)

She is very concerned that this girl will get pregnant, especially since this girl has friends who are her age and younger who are pregnant as well.

In my opinion the step mom should have the girl's dad talk to her.
 
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They could just say "hahaha! the joke's on you! I made all that stuff up just to see if you would read it."
 

seoulsearch

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They could just say "hahaha! the joke's on you! I made all that stuff up just to see if you would read it."
And that, Zero, is why I promise I will never attempt to read YOUR diary... though goodness only knows what it must contain!!! :D
 
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You're absolutely right!!

I hear they write blogs instead. :p
Well I killed a box of honey nut cheerios yesterday but I don't have a blog either. I guess I am unique among my piers. :D

(hiint: Ive been watching too many episodes of Dexter)
 

Wonderland

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When I was a teenager my mother read some personal things I had written and found out I was tripping on acid. Eventually it led to me changing schools and bringing me into a relationship with Jesus.

A few months ago my husband read my journal even though he promised me he never would. I didn't know that he had done it because I trusted him, but once in awhile he would say something -- kind of 'hinting' -- that would throw me off guard. When he finally admitted he read it, I was incredibly angry, but honestly I felt incredibly relieved that he knew the REAL truth about me and I didn't have any more secrets.

I will read my daughter's journal if I ever feel there is a need. In fact, I would pretty much read anyone's, but I would not share their information with anyone else unless it was a situation of sex, drugs, etc. that needed some attention. It is not my business what people do with their own lives, but if it is a situation that effects me, or is an unsafe situation for my minor children, you can BET I will say something. (So don't leave your journal laying around my house if you don't want me to read it :)
 
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Maddog

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#14
If I had not their permission, I would only read someone's diary under extenuating circumstances. For example, if the person was missing and I thought I might be able to glean some information as to their whereabouts (ie. a genuine emergency). If I merely suspected them of some wrongdoing or other, I couldn't convince myself that that warranted such an invasion of privacy.
 
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lil-rush

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I believe a parent can read their children's diaries/journals, but only if the child is a minor. A parent's job is to take care of his child the best way he knows how. If reading a diary/journal helps in that job, than so be it.

I know I would have been angry if my parents read my diaries(I only ever write in my diary when I am feeling a strong emotion, generally rage), but I would have gotten over it.

Besides if you keep a diary, you know it's gonna be read when you die anyways. People don't just throw those things away. Humans are naturally nosy creatures.
 
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Kaitlin

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#16
Imo parents are allowed to read their childen's diaries, no matter their age as long as they live home. For their protection, obviously. If I read something about me being a hypocrite or over dominating (as suggested in this thread), I'd get on my knees first, talk it out with God and find out where my sin is, and afterwards bring it up with the child to ask for forgiveness (for being a hypocrite or overdominating).
I would like to develop a relationship with my husband and children where things are in the open, that we can always be able to look into each others eyes, and hearts. I pray my children will always feel comfortable to come talk to me, knowing that I would never put them to shame, but together live our lives with and for Christ.
In the example of reading a bf's/gf's diary, I would read it ... and probably confront the person with what I had read (if it was about me).
I wouldn't read someone else's child's diary, but if I was able to, I'd talk to the parents of the child about children having a diary.

Be pure of heart, innocent of evil (Romans 16:19)
:)
 
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Vidy

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Serial killers don't keep diaries :)
Uhhhhmmmm.... I don't keep a diary.... or blog.... or any form of vent at all. I don't even dream =O I guess if I go through a situation, I post it on random places and bug my friends with the issue. That keeps me from being serial killer matieral, right?? RIGHT!?!??!
 
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Uhhhhmmmm.... I don't keep a diary.... or blog.... or any form of vent at all. I don't even dream =O I guess if I go through a situation, I post it on random places and bug my friends with the issue. That keeps me from being serial killer matieral, right?? RIGHT!?!??!
LOL well I think you're ok if you tell your friends about your issues.

..as long as your friends dont only live in your head. [sound of evil laughing]
 
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answers

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Well, for me I feel that if you are married you shouldn't keep secrets so if my husband cared enough to read something I wrote then I guess I should be spending more time talking to him.

If I feel the need to confess something I would give it to God not a piece of paper or computer.

If it were one of my children's personal writings, I would read it if the holy spirit lead me to, but would I think about it and go out of my way, not likely. If the things I read were dangerous, destructive or perfusly disturbing than most definitely I would put something into to action to find a better foundation for my child to begin on.
If it was something I really am disappointed in I would either leave it alone or have a friendly and open conversation about the topic and try to understand my child's view while shining some of Gods light on the situation.

That is my personal take....
 
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psychomom

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My husband and I have 6 kiddos, and I am committed to never reading their private stuff. Our 19 yo daughter asked for a box with a lock in which to keep her private thoughts, with which we happily furnished her, for her peace of mind.
Four of our children still live with us, ages 26, 24, 19 and 17. I'd never look into their phones, journals, etc.
I feel if you have a fairly decent relationship with your kids, you're gonna know if there's trouble, on one level or another.
I may be deceiving myself here...but ignorance IS bliss, sometimes. ;) Do I really need to know I'm making my 15 yo crazy in the general ways moms and kids have of doing this as the children approach independence? Who will this help? Chances are, they'll outgrow it, and we do try to maintain open-ness with them, and tell them we understand we, as their parents, will drive them nuts on some level, but we hope they'll grant us some understanding there.
We also tell them that we, as their parents, love them more than anyone on this earth, have their best interests at heart more than anyone but God, and will back them no matter what. If ever they're in trouble, we've asked them to come to us, give us a freak-out moment, and then allow us to help them.
I think our kiddos need to know we trust them provided they've given proof of/earned that trust. And invasion of private thoughts belies trust, and, in fact, breaks it.

I realize this isn't every family's situation. And if I were to have read that my husband's 15 yo child is engaging in intercourse, I would definitely encourage BOTH her parents to speak to her about it, and take the consequences for reading what I did.
As far as my husband goes...I agree that we ought not have secrets. If I'm frustrated with him for something, I tell him as lovingly as I am able after going to the Lord about it. I ask him to do the same for me. And there are also times one must simply overlook the faults of one's spouse, since we aren't perfect either, and the Lord is gracious enough to overlook and forgive our sins and imperfections.

You know that old saw about writing the angry letter and then destroying it? Not bad advice. You get it out of your system, but don't have to keep it around for someone to find, or, worse yet, for you to see months or years later and have it rekindle those feelings.

Just some old lady thoughts...:)
~ellie