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Kids could say that, but that's where the good foundation comes in. They need to know before they go to a Christian school that things are not okay just because their peers are doing them...they basically need to know what they believe for themselves. And a lot of the adults at a Christian school like the teachers, principal and pastor (if it is a church-based school) help a lot with that. If they're open to hearing God's Word, they are hearing it and it will change them.
I would actually say rather get it done later than sooner. Later after they know what they believe and are more mature. What's the rush to deal with non-Christians?
I would actually say rather get it done later than sooner. Later after they know what they believe and are more mature. What's the rush to deal with non-Christians?
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I would say better to be a college roommate or a co-worker. Like I said the person will be more mature then and know more about how to respond. It doesn't take practice just wisdom and good teaching. Adults need to train children & teens how to respond in situations they'll experience with people before they are grown up, let them grow up in a protected environment, and then turn them loose...that's the way it's been for me, and I've had no problem. My coworkers know I'm a Christian, and they respect me even if they do occasionally make fun of me. I know how to respond to them. I know enough from being at a Christian school and college, and regular life, to know what they're talking about, about sex and drugs and stuff so that I won't say anything awkward in a conversation with them or sound stupid.
Trust me, both the Catholic school AND the public school will indoctrinate your kids away from your faith. You'll have to be on your toes either way and very involved in your kids' spiritual lives. I would send them to the school where they'll get the best education, since that is what school is for. In this case you say that is the Catholic school, so Catholic school it is.
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Oh yeah, absolutely. I wasn't saying not to let them interact at all...but I do believe as a Christian, especially a Christian young person, your closest friends should be Christians. And the closest friends they make are gonna be at school. That's all I meant by a protected environment...I've always played with non Christian kids growing up. It's also a great way for kids to learn to talk to their friends about God...but I wouldn't want to subject them to those influences (and this includes teachers) for the amount of time they spend at school, which is most of the day.
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Yes, you should be very involved in your kids' spiritual lives. I probably would not send my kids to a Catholic school though because I don't believe that way. I'm not trying to offend or anything, but there are a lot of things in Catholicism that are extra-Biblical like the worship of Mary.
School is for education- to me that includes social and religious too, they're equally as important as academic knowledge, if not more.
School is for education- to me that includes social and religious too, they're equally as important as academic knowledge, if not more.
Yeah...my friend..is a real good example of sheltered good kid, gone horribly wrong due to the fact that she had never been apart of the real world and has soon as she was introduced to it, she went a little crazy. Has made a lot of mistakes with men. and is currently in an outpatient rehab program for alcoholism.
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There are always exceptions. Like I said, I'm doing fine and so are my sisters, and so are the majority of my Christian high school classmates (I actually had an unusual number of people in my class who were godly Christians- my comments about hypocrital kids were more in reference to kids I knew from other classes). And so are my cousins on my dad's side and they were actually all homeschooled. But they are in the real world and they have turned out amazingly, sold out for God and everything but not all naive or stupid. I guess it just depends on the parental and school training you get, and I agree that some exposure to the real world should take place growing up as in having friends from your neighborhood. But I don't agree that you have to go to a public school to get that exposure- that's pretty much all day and I just think it's too much negative influence. I've just seen that it doesn't make that much of a negative difference (as far as the way you turn out) when you don't attend a public school for the majority of people.
S
You should have seen my private school 
they were worse than the public high school i attend now. Not in means of the number of people who do bad things, but in the quiet godlessness that is more dangerous than anything.
By the way, minich, how old are your children, if you don't mind me asking (sorry if you've already answered this)
they were worse than the public high school i attend now. Not in means of the number of people who do bad things, but in the quiet godlessness that is more dangerous than anything.By the way, minich, how old are your children, if you don't mind me asking (sorry if you've already answered this)
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I say pray & ask God were He wants your child. God has a special plan for evary child, so you need to figure out what will be best for yours.
I have sent my kids to private non christian school. I feel it is were Gods wants them. I also want to teach them from a young age that they are differant.
& I want them to learn relationship with Jesus not just religion.
I have sent my kids to private non christian school. I feel it is were Gods wants them. I also want to teach them from a young age that they are differant.
& I want them to learn relationship with Jesus not just religion.
S
I home school mine and fully expect them to be equipped for college... academically, socially, and maturely....
I home school for a variety of reasons...
1... academics... (my kids are each 1 1/2 grades ahead in many subjects and they need more work in others. I think public school's "no child left behind' has really left their academics a mess.
2...health... my kids are trimmer and more active when they are home with me. (we DID do a few years of public school, and my kids were getting really chunky and inactive!)
3...religious beliefs... we taught a class of about 15 pre-teens about creation for three months. At the end of the three months, they still believed evolution based on their answers to questions because evolution was so ingrained in them from school. (p.s. most of these kids had been 'in church' all their lives and one in particular was our children's pastor's kid!) I also can teach them about all kinds of religions and peoples based on our faith... I can teach them about Christian heros, the bible, devotions, etc... I can open our school time in prayer and stop and pray for them whenever they get discouraged or off track.
4...I can choose how to teach the controversial issues... I had some really negative experiences in Sex Ed in several schools we moved to... REALLY negative.
5...Social issues.... hey, lets face it... suicide and suicidal thoughts are on the rise in our young people due mainly to two things, bullying at school and problems at home. Guns in school, knives, etc... Not to mention the same old drugs, alcohol, teen sex, etc... Really, that is not what I want my child to learn socially... they can get socialization in clubs, activities, neighbor friends, and church... but 8-9 hours a day of what goes on in schools is ridiculous!!! It's not sheltering them... it's protecting them... I make it important that they socialize, but as one mom told me... PROPER socialization starts at home....
6...family bond... Let me tell you, our family is closer than it could have been if they'd been in school all the time. We have CONSTANT activities, field trips, devotions, volunteering, etc... that we wouldn't be able to do.
7...responsibility and maturity... ok, I babysit school aged kids.... I love them... they come from moral homes that "sorta" follow God... (yeah, don't ask>> LOL!) but they have NO sense of responsibility. They are STUNNED that my kids don't GET a ton of things... they are AMAZED that we limit TV time, sugary foods and drinks, and the older ones feel we are poor because we don't have the stuff they have. None of them do chores at home... except MAYBE picking up their rooms... (mine clean their room, the school room/daycare room EVERY night plus do dishes, clean off table, clean up dog poop from yard, do laundry, fold clothes, etc...) It's because they have the time to do these things and still have play time!!! But I feel that in many ways my kids are ALOT more responsible and mature..... but I'll admit... there are some ways my kids are more innocent and maybe not quite as mature.
Ok, there are a lot more, but that's enuff...
I love home schooling!!!
I know some one the other day said that many of their kids' school friends have come to know God through their witness, and that IS one trade off... but you can witness to friends/neighbors as a home school student, too. It's not like my kids don't have friends and not all of them are from our church! They aren't old enough to "run the neighborhood" yet, but they have a small group of kids they play with here, and know a few other kids from the rest of the neighborhood. ( Not sure at what age it's appropriate to let your kids run... I'm torn because of how much evil is in the world and the closer we get to the end days... the more that evil seems prevalent. That is probably another topic )
But... either way you school them, remember that school teaches them academics.... you still need to strive to find time to teach them how to decide what they believe and hopefully you train them up in such a way, they come to know Jesus and the Bible as truth and can stand for what they believe.
I home school for a variety of reasons...
1... academics... (my kids are each 1 1/2 grades ahead in many subjects and they need more work in others. I think public school's "no child left behind' has really left their academics a mess.
2...health... my kids are trimmer and more active when they are home with me. (we DID do a few years of public school, and my kids were getting really chunky and inactive!)
3...religious beliefs... we taught a class of about 15 pre-teens about creation for three months. At the end of the three months, they still believed evolution based on their answers to questions because evolution was so ingrained in them from school. (p.s. most of these kids had been 'in church' all their lives and one in particular was our children's pastor's kid!) I also can teach them about all kinds of religions and peoples based on our faith... I can teach them about Christian heros, the bible, devotions, etc... I can open our school time in prayer and stop and pray for them whenever they get discouraged or off track.
4...I can choose how to teach the controversial issues... I had some really negative experiences in Sex Ed in several schools we moved to... REALLY negative.
5...Social issues.... hey, lets face it... suicide and suicidal thoughts are on the rise in our young people due mainly to two things, bullying at school and problems at home. Guns in school, knives, etc... Not to mention the same old drugs, alcohol, teen sex, etc... Really, that is not what I want my child to learn socially... they can get socialization in clubs, activities, neighbor friends, and church... but 8-9 hours a day of what goes on in schools is ridiculous!!! It's not sheltering them... it's protecting them... I make it important that they socialize, but as one mom told me... PROPER socialization starts at home....
6...family bond... Let me tell you, our family is closer than it could have been if they'd been in school all the time. We have CONSTANT activities, field trips, devotions, volunteering, etc... that we wouldn't be able to do.
7...responsibility and maturity... ok, I babysit school aged kids.... I love them... they come from moral homes that "sorta" follow God... (yeah, don't ask>> LOL!) but they have NO sense of responsibility. They are STUNNED that my kids don't GET a ton of things... they are AMAZED that we limit TV time, sugary foods and drinks, and the older ones feel we are poor because we don't have the stuff they have. None of them do chores at home... except MAYBE picking up their rooms... (mine clean their room, the school room/daycare room EVERY night plus do dishes, clean off table, clean up dog poop from yard, do laundry, fold clothes, etc...) It's because they have the time to do these things and still have play time!!! But I feel that in many ways my kids are ALOT more responsible and mature..... but I'll admit... there are some ways my kids are more innocent and maybe not quite as mature.
Ok, there are a lot more, but that's enuff...
I love home schooling!!!
I know some one the other day said that many of their kids' school friends have come to know God through their witness, and that IS one trade off... but you can witness to friends/neighbors as a home school student, too. It's not like my kids don't have friends and not all of them are from our church! They aren't old enough to "run the neighborhood" yet, but they have a small group of kids they play with here, and know a few other kids from the rest of the neighborhood. ( Not sure at what age it's appropriate to let your kids run... I'm torn because of how much evil is in the world and the closer we get to the end days... the more that evil seems prevalent. That is probably another topic )
But... either way you school them, remember that school teaches them academics.... you still need to strive to find time to teach them how to decide what they believe and hopefully you train them up in such a way, they come to know Jesus and the Bible as truth and can stand for what they believe.
Public school. You're not even Catholic, so what's the point of a Catholic school? But, if you want them to be taught doctrines of demons, Catholic school is the best way to go.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. (1 Timothy 4:1-3)
Take note of the doctrines of demons that it is speaking of here: forbidding to marry and commanding to abstain from foods. Now answer this question for yourself: What religion forbids to marry and commands to abstain from foods? You got it: Catholicism.
What other kinds of things can we expect Catholics to teach? Here are a few examples.
+ Sacraments are necessary for salvation.
What are these sacraments? Baptism, Confirmation or Chrismation, Eucharist, Penance, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, and Matrimony.
What is the Eucharist? It's a doctrine called Transubstantiation. The Cathechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) says it is "the body and blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ and, therefore, the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained." [italics in original] "It is by the conversion of the bread and wine into Christ's body and blood that Christ becomes present in this sacrament."
+ Idolatry, including prayer to images and prayer to Roman Catholic "Saints."
+ Mary worship.
+ Purgatory.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. (1 Timothy 4:1-3)
Take note of the doctrines of demons that it is speaking of here: forbidding to marry and commanding to abstain from foods. Now answer this question for yourself: What religion forbids to marry and commands to abstain from foods? You got it: Catholicism.
What other kinds of things can we expect Catholics to teach? Here are a few examples.
+ Sacraments are necessary for salvation.
What are these sacraments? Baptism, Confirmation or Chrismation, Eucharist, Penance, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, and Matrimony.
What is the Eucharist? It's a doctrine called Transubstantiation. The Cathechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) says it is "the body and blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ and, therefore, the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained." [italics in original] "It is by the conversion of the bread and wine into Christ's body and blood that Christ becomes present in this sacrament."
+ Idolatry, including prayer to images and prayer to Roman Catholic "Saints."
+ Mary worship.
+ Purgatory.
D
Dear Minich,
I see that you live in Australia, so I do not know how bad your public schools are in relation to those in the USA, but I can tell you that I would not send a child of mine to public school under any circumstances. The garbage they are taught is unbelievable. The two latest news items in our country are (a) a math teacher who showed students "Brokeback Mountain" (a gay advocacy film) in math class, and (b) that students in some Texas schools are going to be forced to study Arabic as a required foreign language.
I believe that your options are between the Catholic school and home schooling. My wife and I home schooled our daughter through middle school and high school even though we both worked full time jobs. There are many excellent resources available today that make the task much easier. I would suggest that you seriously look into home schooling and, if that is simply not feasible, consider carefully the ramifications of sending your children to your public high school.
As for those who advocate sending them to public school so they can "learn about the real world", the danger is not that they will learn about, it is that they will start to believe it.
God bless your decision, whatever it may be.
I see that you live in Australia, so I do not know how bad your public schools are in relation to those in the USA, but I can tell you that I would not send a child of mine to public school under any circumstances. The garbage they are taught is unbelievable. The two latest news items in our country are (a) a math teacher who showed students "Brokeback Mountain" (a gay advocacy film) in math class, and (b) that students in some Texas schools are going to be forced to study Arabic as a required foreign language.
I believe that your options are between the Catholic school and home schooling. My wife and I home schooled our daughter through middle school and high school even though we both worked full time jobs. There are many excellent resources available today that make the task much easier. I would suggest that you seriously look into home schooling and, if that is simply not feasible, consider carefully the ramifications of sending your children to your public high school.
As for those who advocate sending them to public school so they can "learn about the real world", the danger is not that they will learn about, it is that they will start to believe it.
God bless your decision, whatever it may be.