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Sweetheart1987

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You know...this is just disgusting and dishonoring to see ''Christians'' saying this is okay when it's not! You aren't to send naked pics like that. It's porn. You have not in any form backed up what you're saying,I have proven how it's porn. They're making,or may have already made the law that it's illegal no matter your age or anything else,no matter where you are to do that nasty stuff. It's called ''sexting''. Anyways,you people are set in your ways. Believing such filth is okay may just be the reason most are being held back from spiritual maturity...you can't practice or live in willful sin,and expect to be blessed and have spiritual maturity.
 
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DanuckInUSA

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Nudity between only a husband and wife is not a sin anywhere.
 
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Sweetheart1987

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#43
Yes it is when it's porn and I have proven that's porn how she's doing it. You just have no way of backing up or proving what you say.
 
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DanuckInUSA

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You have not proven for a husband and wife to indulge in one another is sinful anywhere.
 
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kayem77

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I still dont see the bad sidee of the photos , sorry
 
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Sweetheart so far alls I've been able to find in regards to sending nude texts being illegal is that it is illegal for minors to send nude texts to one another on the grounds it's considered child porn, I haven't seen anything yet in regards to adults doing it, that would be strange anyway seeing as porn is infact a legal thing.

Also, you typing "it's porn" does not prove anything except what your opinion is.
 
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Sweetheart1987

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You close minded people are just set in your ways. There's proof in where I took the time to define what porn is. If you would open your eyes and hearts you would see the truth. Just because you can't find that it's illegal doesn't mean it isn't,you just haven't looked hard enough obviously. Nor does it make it any less wrong,disgusting,sinful,carnal,fleshly,etc. I could care less anymore,because I'm not going to waste my time dealing with close minded people. You close out the truth,and refuse to accept it. Also,it's rather funny that others have said they agree and everything,yet I'm the only one that any of you address about this. How about you just chill out,cause I'm not going to deal with ignorance anymore. I have better things to do and better ways to spend time,energy,and effort. I shall dust off my feet and keep going. If this is ''Christians'' then I wouldn't want to be one if I weren't already one. It's sickening. God help each of and open your minds and hearts to the truth. Goodbye!
 
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BellaFlor

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I guess most of you aren't aware of the main fact. A person that struggles with porn, does anyone thinks their mind and heart will remain pure? The answer is a big NO!

This lady is struggling with watching porn, so when she makes naked pictures of herself, where do you think the inspiration comes from? Do you think she thinks something new by herself, or do you think watching the porn gives her ideas? You all say that only porn is wrong but not sending dirty naked pictures to her husband.

God says that the bed is to be kept holy and pure, and with no dirty intentions in mind. God mentions the bed is to be kept pure and holy, not outside from the house or bedroom. Porn doesn't makes anything going towards holiness nor being pure, it is rather a sinful way of seeing and making things. Also, we don't know if her husband might be masturbating or doing other bad things to himself whilst watching those pictures she sends too. There is often a linking between both sinning.

My husband just told me something he had read on the news or perhaps it was in the newspaper, that a Christian lady teacher had also been making naked pictures for her husband and sent them to him online. And then her pictures leaked out, and some students had found her pictures somewhere else online. She wasn't very pleased with this, nor was the Christian school she was teaching at too.

This is also something one needs having in mind, how safe is really the internet? There might sometimes come a hacker finding those pictures and then posting them around the net, perhaps one day they might see her on big posters outside! ;) Lol! That would sure be a good but hard lesson learned! :)
 
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You close minded people are just set in your ways. There's proof in where I took the time to define what porn is. If you would open your eyes and hearts you would see the truth. Just because you can't find that it's illegal doesn't mean it isn't,you just haven't looked hard enough obviously. Nor does it make it any less wrong,disgusting,sinful,carnal,fleshly,etc. I could care less anymore,because I'm not going to waste my time dealing with close minded people. You close out the truth,and refuse to accept it. Also,it's rather funny that others have said they agree and everything,yet I'm the only one that any of you address about this. How about you just chill out,cause I'm not going to deal with ignorance anymore. I have better things to do and better ways to spend time,energy,and effort. I shall dust off my feet and keep going. If this is ''Christians'' then I wouldn't want to be one if I weren't already one. It's sickening. God help each of and open your minds and hearts to the truth. Goodbye!


If you would take the time to actually give SOURCES we could end that debate completely and I did search some more last night. Its not illegal for adults to send pictures. minors yes, it is, but i found this interesting
(from wikipedia by the way)
In Connecticut, Rep. Rosa Rebimbas introduced a bill that would lessen the penalty for "sexting" between two consenting minors in 2009. The bill would make it a Class A misdemeanor for children under 18 to send or receive text messages with other minors that include nude or sexual images. It is currently a felony for children to send such messages, and violators could end up on the state's sex offender registry.[25]
Vermont lawmakers introduced a bill in April 2009 to legalize the consensual exchange of graphic images between two people 13 to 18 years old. Passing along such images to others would remain a crime.[26]
In Ohio, a county prosecutor and two lawmakers proposed a law that would reduce sexting from a felonymisdemeanor, and eliminate the possibility of a teenage offender being labeled a sex offender for years. The proposal was supported by the parents of Jesse Logan, a Cincinnati 18-year-oldto a first degree who committed suicide after the naked picture of herself which she sexted was forwarded to people in her high school.[27]
Utah lawmakers lessened the penalty for sexting for someone younger than 18 to a misdemeanor from a felony.[28]
In New York, Assemblyman Ken Zebrowski (D-Rockland) has introduced a bill that will create an affirmative defense where a minor is charged under child pornography laws if they possesses or disseminates a picture of themself; or possess or disseminates the image of another minor (within 4 years of their age) with their consent. The affirmative defense will not be available if the conduct was done without consent. It also creates an educational outreach program for teens that promotes awareness about the dangers of sexting.[29]
 
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Sweetheart1987

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Why waste time giving you close minded people anything,when you wouldn't bother reading it? I've seen it before. It IS illegal. Believe what you what. I don't care,you are the fools blinded by your own corruptness and unrighteousness because you think with the flesh,and the carnal mind. There's plenty of people whom agree completely with me,but they don't post on here because of the none-sense,uneducated, lack of knowledge on said subject that is given on here. How do I know? They send private mail messages to me telling me so. Like I said, I have way better things to do and ways to spend and invest my time,than dealing or arguing with you people. Hopefully someday all of you will let God open your mind and heart to the truth. I mean with things that have been said,and signatures saying things like ''I don't like to be held down by rules'' or whatever else it says and has been said on here...no wonder people are the way they are! no morals whatsoever obviously,and the parents should be held accountable because they clearly haven't taught their children to have any self respect, respect for others,morals,nothing. Makes you wonder what the so called and professing ''Christian'' house hold teaches anymore. Clearly it's not the truth about God's word. At any rate,I've spoken fact and opinion on this. I have spoken what God said to,if none of you listen then that's your problem. I'm over this. So may the Lord bless and keep you,may his face shine upon you,and be gracious to each of you always. In Jesus name.
 
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Why waste time giving you close minded people anything,when you wouldn't bother reading it? I've seen it before. It IS illegal. Believe what you what. I don't care,you are the fools blinded by your own corruptness and unrighteousness because you think with the flesh,and the carnal mind. There's plenty of people whom agree completely with me,but they don't post on here because of the none-sense,uneducated, lack of knowledge on said subject that is given on here. How do I know? They send private mail messages to me telling me so. Like I said, I have way better things to do and ways to spend and invest my time,than dealing or arguing with you people. Hopefully someday all of you will let God open your mind and heart to the truth. I mean with things that have been said,and signatures saying things like ''I don't like to be held down by rules'' or whatever else it says and has been said on here...no wonder people are the way they are! no morals whatsoever obviously,and the parents should be held accountable because they clearly haven't taught their children to have any self respect, respect for others,morals,nothing. Makes you wonder what the so called and professing ''Christian'' house hold teaches anymore. Clearly it's not the truth about God's word. At any rate,I've spoken fact and opinion on this. I have spoken what God said to,if none of you listen then that's your problem. I'm over this. So may the Lord bless and keep you,may his face shine upon you,and be gracious to each of you always. In Jesus name.

Because it would really help your argument, and yes I would read it, because I like to gain knowledge about things and if I am wrong about it being legal I would like to read up on the actual law.
Your making a lot of assumptions about the people who disagree with you.
btw my parents were/are amazing, I have self respect and morals.

Why is it so popular among Christians to tell people that they are not Christian as soon as they disagree on something?
 
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xJoe

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As much as I would like to agree with you sweetheart I can't.
the only thing negative I could say on it is what if someone gets a hold of it? WHAT IF somebody sees these things and SEES WHAT YOUR DOING?
which is what happened. I would stay away from doing it because when younger people get a hold of it then you have destructive content.
Is giving you husband or wife something or you nude wrong? I can't say with clarity anyone on that subject. But TO MYSELF I would not do it because if it gets into the wrong hands then what? People could post it on the internet, relatives could accidentally see it or even children.
This is having the thing confined to what marriage is suppose to be on a displayable show. That is what I can't agree with. I don't think anyones secrets and such should be on open display where someone could come across it. Thats taking a meaningless risk with high consequences.
My conclusion is it sinful? No. Is it smart in any sense? no. is it dangerous? yes. look what happened to the person who posted this.
 
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lightbliss

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Hey BellaFlor,

Although I stated that it was okay for a woman/man to send such pictures to their spouse as long as it's between the two of them, I agree with your post.

Thanks for using examples to back up your reasoning instead of just stating personal opinions or "facts" that aren't backed up.

Even if the husband wasn't doing anything "sinful" while viewing the pictures of his wife, the pictures could get in the wrong hands. What would someone that sees the pictures think? Perhaps the person that discovered the pictures wouldn't know that the woman in them is the man's wife, they may think that the man has loads of porn on his cell phone :eek:

I think that since they're married anything goes (not everything, but quite a few things) but we must remember to abstain from all appearances of evil. And since we never know who's watching (well, God is) or who'll be affected by our actions (our children, principle, etc.,), I think we should keep some things personal because on paper/cell phone/computer or Internet, everything is liable; there will always be proof (good and bad).

In general:

I'd also like to extend the liable example to the words we use; they can never be undone! This is a discussion forum, there is no need to insult the masses because their opinion tends to differ from yours. When you think about it, the same can easily be said about you.

So please everybody, let's use common courtesy. We're not only Christians by what we believe but how we behave, which means our attitudes. Be respectful and God Bless :)
 
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DanuckInUSA

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I am sorry you can not define sensuality between a husband and wife as porn. If a go to strip club it would be adultery, if my wife strips for me that is part of our relationship. It is intimacy between a man and a wife.
 
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Sweetheart1987

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disgusting...as usual...that's all I'll say. Sicking sins,being called okay...you want to think that then fine may God help all of you. There's a difference in intimacy in person and over the phone and/or pics. However you think there isn't,what a foolish thought. I'm done with this debate as it goes no where. Ignorance is bliss to some...clearly some on here.
 
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tryingtofindhim

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disgusting...as usual...that's all I'll say. Sicking sins,being called okay...you want to think that then fine may God help all of you. There's a difference in intimacy in person and over the phone and/or pics. However you think there isn't,what a foolish thought. I'm done with this debate as it goes no where. Ignorance is bliss to some...clearly some on here.

your message would be received my better if you said it in a more loving way than attacking people.:)
 
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Sweetheart1987

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whatever it wasn't an attack DUH wake up...all you attacked me...there's how many agreeing with me,and I'm the only one any of you go after. I don't have to show any respect or ''love'' as you call it to anyone that's not respecting me,and who is setting a bad or possibly false example for true Christians out there. you want respect,give it. I'm over the drama that many seem to want to start,but attacking and singling out one person. So I'm done with this thread. Lord please help them.
 
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alexiblue

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Although i agree with the jist of what your argument, Sweetheart, even if people single you out and attack you without respect does not mean that you are inherently given license to do the same back to them. Falseness may exist, and it should be dealt with, but always in love. Jesus came full of grace and truth and we are supposed to be full of both as well, 'speaking the truth in love.' Since we were given the greatest love that ever was, and know it, how can we not show love to everyone, especially those who need it?
in love only,
alexiblue
 
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tryingtofindhim

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whatever it wasn't an attack DUH wake up...all you attacked me...there's how many agreeing with me,and I'm the only one any of you go after. I don't have to show any respect or ''love'' as you call it to anyone that's not respecting me,and who is setting a bad or possibly false example for true Christians out there. you want respect,give it. I'm over the drama that many seem to want to start,but attacking and singling out one person. So I'm done with this thread. Lord please help them.
You are right you don't have to respect them, but we are called to love them. I have given you my respect and you have given me none, but that's okay because I will love you anyways. have a great night :D
 
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Sweetheart1987

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Ha no thanks I don't want the first thing from you. Honestly,I don't want the first thing from anyone whom claims they're a Christian. I'm just flat out disgusted by professing Christians these days. So many fake ones,so many that just do whatever they want,ones that try and justify sin,ones who falsely represent Christians,the Lord,his word,etc.

I will however apologize for the misunderstanding here....I'm not tense about this,I'm just extremely passionate and I suppose that can come across wrong. I just get fed up with so much willful wrong these days,I mean you know how it is,when everyone says ''if that's what a Christian is,and that's what they do,and how they live,I don't want to be one''. Then they also go into being extremely offensive and want us to shut up and everything...but we just can't do that. There's so much pressure and persecution these days,due to the ones that are fake,falsely represent,etc as said before.

I guess it all just boiled up inside,and came out wrong...and on the wrong ones....anyways....for what it's worth,I'm sorry there was confusion and all on here. I have asked God to help me deal with this as best he sees fit,to be fruitful in what's said,not unfruitful, or baring bad fruit or anything else. To help keep me calm,to help me be more understanding,to give me wisdom,knowledge,understanding,compassion,etc. more than I've ever known and had.

So,in the end,I'm just going to move on. It's just not worth this debate,arguing,or anything else anymore. The added stress from other things on top of everything else,doesn't help,but I should have just said forget it before. I'll have to make sure that sort of thing doesn't interfere with,or take any effect at all with things on here. God bless