Does Jesus agree with racism?

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Rachel777

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Obviously I think He DOESN'T ... But there are many Christians whose practice racism. So, perhaps; There are two heavens?

Do You agree with racism?, Do You not? .. What's your point of view?
 
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Sarah88

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I don't agree with racism at all. God tells us to "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another" (John 13:34-35).

He didn't say love others if they are white or black or yellow or whatever. We have to love everyone, regardless of their skin color or race.

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Ramon

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Obviously I think He DOESN'T ... But there are many Christians whose practice racism. So, perhaps; There are two heavens?

Do You agree with racism?, Do You not? .. What's your point of view?
:):):)

The Lord opens our eyes to many things. We know who is behind all of these things that consume men in their lusts.

It isn't a conspiracy of men, but a conspiracy of the devil. You know, many people die when there is an issue between races, and all of it is silliness. Yes, people end up in hell because of silliness.

I was looking at a movie about a massive genocide in Rawanda. Thousands of dead bodies lie in the street killed from blades of knifes cutting their bodies to death. In this group of a thousand souls, some may have ended up in hell, and others not. But during that time, thousands and thousands, died, and are no longer here.

Satan is behind it all. No matter how smooth the operation is (there are still political racists today), at the core of their hearts is murder. Even massive genocide, and homicide.

So, the same people who figure it is a light thing to persecute Christians in word, will also do so in deed too when the great times of trial smite this earth.

Jesus Christ knows all things. He reveals all things.
 
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DiscipleWilliam

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Obviously I think He DOESN'T ... But there are many Christians whose practice racism. So, perhaps; There are two heavens?

Do You agree with racism?, Do You not? .. What's your point of view?
Hey Rachel,

I would strongly doubt the salvation of those who profess to believe in Christ but continue to advocate racism. Racism is demonic at the core and extremely Darwinistic on the surface. It had origins from Genesis and also was a doctrine that was proposed by Charles Darwin to support the superiority of one people group over the other and was cunningly introduced among his 'origins of species' theories. We as Christians realize that there is only one race, and that is the Adamic race. The Bible never exclaims that there are multiple races, only one race consisting of multiple nations and people groups. Oftentimes, it's easy for Christians to get confused regarding these things which is why it's good to ask questions. :)
 

Dude653

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One can not be racist and be christian. Racism stems from hatred and the Bible is quite clear that a poerson with hate in his heart will NOT see the kingdom of heaven
 
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Brandon777

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Revelation 5:9 "And they sang a new song: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation." That is EVERY people, language, tribe and nation! EVERY ONE! From a biblical standpoint it's beyond absurd to think that God would separate the heavens for racism. All sin will be gone from people's hearts, including the inclination to discriminate love between races and other things that make one person different from another. Jesus said I and the Father are one and He prayed that the church follow after this model of unity. God is different in His distinct persons, yet inseperatley bond together with love making them One person in that sense. Of course we cannot grasp what measure of love that is because it is immeasurable and of a nature that humans are not accustomed. Jesus said be holy for I am holy. This means we are to be unified together as a church just as He and His Father in heaven! John 17:21

James Chapter 3 (conserning the mouth) "With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God. 10 Out of the same mouth comes forth blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 11 Does a spring send out from the same opening fresh and bitter water? 12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, yield olives, or a vine figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh water." Find out what this means for yourself.

Let's put it this way. If someone is ultimately not willing to eat next to someone else with a difference in something other than what they have in common through they're unity with Christ, then they're not going to be allowed in heaven. Because the Bride of Christ is unified through Christ. That's one of the signature qualities that we know about the marriage supper of the lamb in the book of Revelation.
 
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Rachel777

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:):):)

The Lord opens our eyes to many things. We know who is behind all of these things that consume men in their lusts.

It isn't a conspiracy of men, but a conspiracy of the devil. You know, many people die when there is an issue between races, and all of it is silliness. Yes, people end up in hell because of silliness.

I was looking at a movie about a massive genocide in Rawanda. Thousands of dead bodies lie in the street killed from blades of knifes cutting their bodies to death. In this group of a thousand souls, some may have ended up in hell, and others not. But during that time, thousands and thousands, died, and are no longer here.

Satan is behind it all. No matter how smooth the operation is (there are still political racists today), at the core of their hearts is murder. Even massive genocide, and homicide.

So, the same people who figure it is a light thing to persecute Christians in word, will also do so in deed too when the great times of trial smite this earth.

Jesus Christ knows all things. He reveals all things.
That's too sad :(
 
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Ramon

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My friend, if only you knew how heavy a burden that is in the eyes of the Lord. The Lord looks over the entire earth, and he sees the hurting and the poor and the widows. And those who suffer.

How much more sad is it when people look to heaven and curse him for it? How much more grieving!!!! If anyone does not see this, then he is truly blind.

Jesus showed me this also. They curse God because he doesn't deliver them, but if they just went to him he would!!! HE REALLY WOULD!!

You see, Satan causes it, but he gets people to blame God. It is backwards. Or they trust governments or money instead of God. Many things come in the way. Some call it government conspiracy, or terrorism. They call these people evil.

But Jesus Christ calls the entire world evil and in need of repentance. Jesus Christ deals with our hearts. We have issues that are VERY deep. He pulls them out and shows us we are no better. BUT!!!!!

Jesus comes and FORGIVES US! WOW!! Would Jesus have forgiven Hitler? YES!!! Would he have forgiven these who killed these people?? YES!!

BUT!! Did they repent and ask for it? God knows.

All the issues of the world arise from sin, which God warns against, yet people continue to do it. But Jesus will not only wipe our sins away, EVEN THE WORST!!! He will also make us perfect, and where we will not sin again.

This is so hard to accept when we are so weak. But we are weak, and HE IS STRONG!!!

May Jesus bless you.
 

Sharp

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I don't agree with multiculturalism.

People simply don't need to live in eachother's countries. People should stay where they are and not migrate. This would avoid so much unnecessary conflict.

God separated people at Babel. Why have we mixed them all up again? Who told us to do this?
 
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Rachel777

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I don't agree with multiculturalism.

People simply don't need to live in eachother's countries. People should stay where they are and not migrate. This would avoid so much unnecessary conflict.

God separated people at Babel. Why have we mixed them all up again? Who told us to do this?
I think that is a kind of racism .. God separated us , because they were trying to build a tower that reached to heaven(something impossible)..so,then God made that to confuse their languages and stop this....then to know different idioms is a sin? ... Am I a sinner? because I know english ......Let's stay focused :D
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I certainly believe racism exists because I see every race engage in it. But I certainly do view it as a temporary human problem because in heaven, there will be no racism.

Obviously I think He DOESN'T ... But there are many Christians whose practice racism. So, perhaps; There are two heavens?

Do You agree with racism?, Do You not? .. What's your point of view?
 
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shekaniah

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Most of the time it's easy to look at someones heart, and see who they are....It is only when people treat you with prejudice ....that you notice
they are of a different race or nationality.
 
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Puddles

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I don't agree with multiculturalism.

People simply don't need to live in eachother's countries. People should stay where they are and not migrate. This would avoid so much unnecessary conflict.

God separated people at Babel. Why have we mixed them all up again? Who told us to do this?
Wow! Really?!? Sharp, honestly - no offense intended, but as much as an awesome dude that you are, I'm surprised by that, not that your comment is incorrect but there is a better way.

Quick history lesson...In December 2005, thousands of Australians held up the national flag and chanted "Aussie Pride" while chasing down and attacking anyone who looked remotely middle eastern. The Cronulla Beach Riots didn't show love. It showed hatred, intolerance and racism. We can not wind back the clock. But we can learn from our mistakes and change the way we approach things.

Scripture backs this up: Jesus said in Matthew 22: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself'. In Proverbs 6 it says: "There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that he detests...someone who sows discord among brothers" is one of those things. James 2:4 says: Have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Apologies if I have brought up something people would rather forget. But my point here is that I believe Jesus doesnt support Racism. Jesus supports love and treating each other with kindness. My final word is a quote from Jesus: "The way that you treat the least of these is the way that you treat me".
 
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CrimsonFlames

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I don't agree with multiculturalism.

People simply don't need to live in eachother's countries. People should stay where they are and not migrate. This would avoid so much unnecessary conflict.

God separated people at Babel. Why have we mixed them all up again? Who told us to do this?
Wow., why doesnt this surprise me that you're an aussie? You and your fellow thinkers bring shame upon this country

I see you practice hypocrisy and double standards too or you'd have packed up and moved back to england or where-ever right?

I could quote the bible to correct you but I dont think its needed., you know you're in the wrong
 
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CrimsonFlames

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Wow! Really?!? Sharp, honestly - no offense intended, but as much as an awesome dude that you are, I'm surprised by that, not that your comment is incorrect but there is a better way.

Quick history lesson...In December 2005, thousands of Australians held up the national flag and chanted "Aussie Pride" while chasing down and attacking anyone who looked remotely middle eastern. The Cronulla Beach Riots didn't show love. It showed hatred, intolerance and racism. We can not wind back the clock. But we can learn from our mistakes and change the way we approach things.

Scripture backs this up: Jesus said in Matthew 22: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself'. In Proverbs 6 it says: "There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that he detests...someone who sows discord among brothers" is one of those things. James 2:4 says: Have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Apologies if I have brought up something people would rather forget. But my point here is that I believe Jesus doesnt support Racism. Jesus supports love and treating each other with kindness. My final word is a quote from Jesus: "The way that you treat the least of these is the way that you treat me".
wonderful words Puddles., TY
 

pickles

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I believe racism, like prejiduce are no more than another disguise for hate, evil.
That some will use such things to give justification or excuse for wrong.
I remember growing up during the terrible race riots.
I was confused as to why some one would hate simply because the other's color was diferent.
My neighborhood was filled with every race and culture that is, I loved the differances and the things that were alike the same, simply because this was my world, and this was what was life, normal.
As I grew older, and heard the stories I wasnt supposed to, that my neighbor told to my mom about surviving aushwits, I cried inside, becuase I could not understand why anyone would hate this wonderful woman, or kill her family.
Then watching the tv, and seeing the hate over races there, my heart broke even more.
For these people on tv hated my neighbors, my friends, good people.
Why?
Jesus told us to love our neighbors, one another.
The first time I came face to face with racism, was when I was about seven, I was walking home from school when a group of kids aproached me, started hitting me and pushing me, all because of the color of my skin, they said I deserved it.
I was confused, as how could the color of my skin decide who I am, make me guilty?
I finnaly managed to break free of their abuse, running home I cried out to my mom, why did they do this, why does the color of my skin matter????
My mom , a wise woman, said it asnt them, but hate.
She said that there have been people that hated them and hurt them for a long time, simply because of the color of their skin, now this hate and anger is in their hearts, not because they are bad, but because it is all they have been given for many many years.
Its not them, but simply hate, evil always looking for a place to live.
Only Jesus can remove this kind of hate, evil.
I am so greatful for her wise words, as I made up my mind not to let evil live in me, instead I forgave them.
I believe most do not know why they hate, it is simply the seed of evil planted in a heart unable to forgive.
If only it is forgiving what the color of skin represents to them.
I also believe we would all do much better if we saw all of hate of another for what it is, simply evil trying and taking root in the heart.
No more excuses, it is simply evil.
If we would all do this, and look to Jesus , recieving His love and forgivness, we might be amazed at how fast all racism is revieled and crushed. :)

in Jesus, God bless.
pickles
 
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I don't agree with multiculturalism.

People simply don't need to live in eachother's countries. People should stay where they are and not migrate. This would avoid so much unnecessary conflict.

God separated people at Babel. Why have we mixed them all up again? Who told us to do this?
LOL nice. It would prevent wars too! :p I know u were kidding and so am I.
 
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dmdave17

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Obviously I think He DOESN'T ... But there are many Christians whose practice racism. So, perhaps; There are two heavens?

Do You agree with racism?, Do You not? .. What's your point of view?
Rachel,

There are no real Christians who practice racism of any kind. Anyone you have seen who exhibits the symptoms of racism is what I like to call a "CINO" (rhymes with "RINO"); Christian In Name Only.

As everyone has pointed out, our God is a God of unconditional love. While we are human beings, with human failings, true Christians try to emulate Christ every day of their lives. This means accepting every person for what they are, and who they are, and treating them with courtesy and respect.

So my point of view is simple. Christian "racists" are lying hypocrites.

Hope this helps. God bless you.
 
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There are two heavens?
No, or as they say in spanish... No. :)

Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him. - 1 John 3:15 NIV

Hi Rachel! :D God bless you.
 
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