Why Christmass ?

[Helloimandrewyo]

My little boy's grandparent's were talking to him and his sister about christmas, and they asked if they were excited about santa coming to bring them presents. My little girl started going on about how excited she was, but my boy was like "umm, thats just stupid. Santa's not real..."

I asked how he knew?

He told me that everytime i come home from work i say its so i can get him toys. So obviously because santa only works in just the winter, there is no way he could make enough toys for everyone. So he isn't real.

My 4 year old is going to be a lawyer, and he will support me when i am old.

 

[ada]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLuBCd1MEAQ[/video]

 

[Helloimandrewyo]

Well this thread is now ruined.

 

[See_KING_Truth]

I have learned that Christ wasn't even born around the time we celebrate christmas, but was conceived in the womb around this time when the Holy Spirit entered into Mary's bosom. That's all I have to say here.

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[tessa]

The TRUTH about Christmas Its History Myths, and Traditions - Jeremiah Films - Video Dailymotion

 

[dmdave17]

"But the angel said to them, 'Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.'" (Luke 2:10-11) The baby, Jesus. The greatest gift every given; from God to all mankind. While we were still sinners, God sent His Son to die in our place, so that we could be reconciled to Him.

Why wouldn't we celebrate this event with joy? Why wouldn't we commemorate this gift by giving gifts of our own? The problem, I believe, is not in the Holiday, but in what it has been allowed to become. If we would all take a step back (believers and non-believers), and remember that "Jesus is the reason for the season", I think we could change the perception of Christmas throughout the world.

God bless.

 

[RedTent]

Who knew that 1,686 years ago a guy named Constantine who was an Emperor of Rome wanted the Romans he governed to change their God from the pagan ones to Christ so he let them have their holidays as long as they changed the God it celebrated. What I did, growing up, was be part of the celebration of Christ’s birth. The pagan worship part never entered my mind!

I was never told about the Festivals that God told the Hebrews to do, or what they meant. The words Day of Atonement or even Passover simply wasn’t in my vocabulary. If I had been told that some bozo who lived that long ago was making up my mind for me about my holidays I would never have believed it. I didn't know I was following some strange guy's ideas instead of God's.

It certainly is all a puzzlement! I hold fast to the scripture telling me to worship in spirit and truth. I love the Lord with all my heart and I celebrate that He was born in our world and died for us.

 

[Tobby17]

bla bla bla..

*Waits anxiously for Christmas*

 

[Ritter]

bla bla bla..

*Waits anxiously for Christmas*

I think that is where most people are at.

 

[ada]

Israeli Mayor Bans Christmas Trees

The mayor of Nazareth Illit, an Israeli town with an Arab Christian minority, has declared a ban on the public display of Christmas trees. "Nazareth Illit is a Jewish city and it will not happen--not this year and not next year, so long as I am a mayor," Mayor Shimon Gapso said. Arab Christians, who make up about 7 percent of the town's 40,000 residents, were denied their request to put up Christmas trees in their neighborhoods. The Agence France-Presse reports that the community is not happy:

His decision angered the town's Arab and Christian minority, who accused him of racism. "The racism of not putting a tree up is nothing compared to the real racism that we experience here," said Aziz Dahdal, a 35-year-old Christian resident of Nazareth Illit.

"When we asked the mayor to put up a Christmas tree in the Arab neighbourhoods of Nazareth Illit he said this is a Jewish town, not a mixed town," said Shukri Awawdeh, a Muslim Arab member of the town council. ... "We told him that decorating a tree is just to share the happiness and cheer with other people in the town," said Awawdeh.
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Nazareth Illit is a suburb of Nazareth, which as the childhood home of Jesus Christ is an important center of Christian history and is about one-third Christian today. Journalist Nir Rosen wonders how Fox News, which has a tendency to defend Israel but also a love of fighting what it calls "the war on Christmas," would handle this story.
Israeli Mayor Bans Christmas Trees - Global - The Atlantic Wire

 

[dajones1979]

Abraham had traditions that God told him to jettison at first chance!

 

[ada]

What do you think?
Did God told him to pimp his wife sarah for profit to the pharaoh lying to him it was his daughter?
Genesis 12

 

[ada]

What Is Christmas?

December 16, 2011 by fortheloveoftruth

What is Christmas?
What it is not, is a “pagan” celebration … viewing this from a Christian perspective, which is really the “root” of Christmas. Even the word “Christmas” says it all > that it is about Christ Jesus.
Recognizing Christ’s birthday dates back to the 2nd century with ongoing debates as to the literal date of Jesus’ birth. No one knows when He was born, which is not an important detail. We don’t know the exact moment when Christ died for our sins either … it was during the Passover season, but the “true date” has been debated for centuries as well! The fact is: God sent His One and Only Son for us and in that truth we find that our hearts desire to rejoice. It is a simple concept that so many try to tarnish and relegate to “paganism”. How desperately sad.
Even though the “Christmas is pagan” crowd like to jump on Constantine as the “fall guy” for picking December 25, that was generally the observed day even before his “edict”. From what I have researched, it was decided to pick the 25th to eradicate the paganism in favor of celebrating Christ rather than the pagan gods for which the solstice was given over to! The word “Christmas” referred to the mass of Christ because during the 4th century the Catholic Church was the primary Christian religion at that time. And so the tradition of the name of the season stuck.
There is not much about life in general that is not pagan. And of the original laws given in the OT [the Torah/Mosaic Law] many of them were also found in paganism, so apparently God did not have a problem using “pagan” practices to incorporate into what He gave to Israel. So too, those who paint Christmas with the “pagan” paintbrush and then keep Hanukkah have been led down the so-called same trail as Christians if one wants to view it that way!

Hanukkah is not Biblical. When one reads the history of it, it is based on man’s reasoning, actions, and traditions that are not based on the truth of what actually happened. What I find interesting is that Hanukkah is used to replace Christmas by the Hebrew Roots movement when it has nothing to do with Christ, was not prophetic of Him, and replaced the throne of David and Jesus as his rightful heir. The Maccabees were moved by their own hearts, not by the Lord through His prophets – which was the true mark of a Godly command. There was no miracle of oil either – that was a legend introduced in the Talmud. Hanukkah is more of a mystic season filled with gifts and traditions that mirror Christmas in many ways. Good food, miracles, games, lights, candles, etc …..

Holly, wreathes, Yule logs, trimmed trees, lights, candles, and even Santa are what they are. They are not evil. They are traditions that have been incorporated into religious practice …. but …. the traditions are not worshiped; they are rather used in a celebratory connotation. Even the feasts as kept by the Jews today are not Biblical in concept because they do not rely on the Bible for obedience or tradition, but their own system of law keeping.
Although Christmas has been adopted secularly, this does not mean that Jesus cannot be celebrated and honored at this time of year. Secularism is an offshoot of the Christian celebration, not the other way around!!! It is a joyous time. A time of love for one another, a time of giving and compassion. A time when we recount the angel’s testimony in the Heavens, the worship of shepherds, and two years later the reverence and honor of the wise men. It is a time when we recall the amazing gift of God …. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ …. Emanuel, God with us.
Merry Christmas!
Joy to the World, the Lord Is Come!!!

For The Love Of Truth

 

[systemdown101]

What do you think? Did God told him to pimp his wife sarah for profit to the pharaoh lying to him it was his daughter?

Unbiblical. For starters, Abraham made lies of omission about Sarah twice out of fear of being killed as Sarah was apparently quite beautiful, it was not out of the desire for profit, and Genesis states that quite clearly. Also unbiblical is that Abraham didn't say Sarah was his daughter, but rather his sister.

 

[ada]

Not unbiblical. A lie is a lie and there was and still is a long tradition by the jews of woman trafficking and pimping their own children for profit.
Further they are the slave trade masters in history all for their love of money and earthly power.
Not to say that they even ritually burned their little children to moloch.

 

[Cleante]

Καλα Χριστουγεννα!

 

[systemdown101]

Not unbiblical. A lie is a lie and there was and still is a long tradition by the jews of woman trafficking and pimping their own children for profit.
Further they are the slave trade masters in history all for their love of money and earthly power.
Not to say that they even ritually burned their little children to moloch.

Uh huh. Now you're moving the goal posts. We'll try it again. You said

What do you think?
Did God told him to pimp his wife sarah for profit to the pharaoh lying to him it was his daughter?
Genesis 12

The Bible says

Now there was a famine in the land, and Abram went down to Egypt to live there for a while because the famine was severe. As he was about to enter Egypt, he said to his wife Sarai, “I know what a beautiful woman you are. When the Egyptians see you, they will say, ‘This is his wife.’ Then they will kill me but will let you live. Say you are my sister, so that I will be treated well for your sake and my life will be spared because of you.”

So we have you saying that Abram was pimping out Sarai for profit, when the Bible clearly saying otherwise regarding Abram's motivation. Okay Ada, prove that the Bible is wrong and you are right. Otherwise yes, what you said is unbiblical.

The Bible also says

But the LORD inflicted serious diseases on Pharaoh and his household because of Abram’s wife Sarai. So Pharaoh summoned Abram. “What have you done to me?” he said. “Why didn’t you tell me she was your wife? Why did you say, ‘She is my sister,’ so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!” Then Pharaoh gave orders about Abram to his men, and they sent him on his way, with his wife and everything he had.

So the Bible states Abram (later Abraham) lied and said Sarai was his sister but you insist he said Sarai was his daughter. Please prove how you are right and the Bible is wrong, because Biblical scholars everywhere would love to hear your new insights into this part of history and how you got them. Otherwise yes, what you said is unbiblical.