Living with a (narcissistic) mom going through a breakdown. How can I deal with her?

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junebug

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Hi, so I guess I'll just give some background. I'm seventeen, female, and I'm a high school junior, although I'm graduating at the end of this year ( through a lot of hard work and online classes) and should be moved out by august for college. The thing is, I still have a lot of time with my mom and I need to figure out how to handle things (at least for short term) better, in the christian way. I eventually want to end up with a good relationship with her, if that is possible, even if it takes time.
Anyways, my mom is a disaster. Two years ago, she had her second divorce and we moved to a new town ( we had lived here once before though.) It was probably this time that she started going through her breakdown and it hasn't ended yet. She began with having unattached sex with men. Then, she would become weirdly obsessed with every man in her life. She cannot control her feelings in the slightest (nor do I think she tries to). She has always been sort of removed and allowed me to do what I want whenever, but now it's at an extreme. She can't care about anything that has to do with me, doesn't want to spend time with me, give me any attention, or anything. We don't talk unless it's about her. In fact, she tries to talk to me about herself and her guy problems and friend problems all the time, but I can't even stomach it. I have to tell her that no, I don't want to talk about it or that she should talk to someone else, because it bugs me so much, it literally makes me sick. She still checks up on me sometimes, but I often feel that it is because she wants something from me whenever she does. She will not clean. The house is a mess and disgusting all of the time. I'm her only child and I clean everything, rarely make a mess, and if i do, I am the one to clean it up. Last week I came home and she had literally dumped vinegar into the garbage bag and left it sitting on the middle of the kitchen floor. I had to clean it up. She wont do dishes, much less even rinse the ones she uses. There is clutter everywhere, and I (in high school, completing a whole extra year at the same time, I work, and volunteer every week) simply do not have the time or energy to clean up after her. I ask her all the time just not to make messes and i would do the deep cleaning, but she refuses. Actually, she told me that she is "physically incapable" of cleaning because she is stressed and worried she will lose her job because she got a DUI. She works from home, by the way. I get so angry that often I end up screaming because she refuses to take responsibility for anything that happens in her life. When I tell her i'm stressed or ask for help she just says "well your the one who decided to graduate early" or my favorite, " go live with your dad" when i'm obviously not able to and she knows that hurts my feelings because I've cried and asked her to please not say that anymore. Another common one is the "your problems are nowhere near as bad as mine." When I tell her something good like when I got accepted into college she rarely reacts at all. It's usually a fake "good". It's like she doesn't (sorry for sounding so blunt) have a soul. Nothing effects her deeply unless it has to do with her and her alone. I feel like all I do is criticize her and ignore her because it hurts me so badly to be around her. She doesn't go to church anymore and she doesn't really support me in going. She's recently started drinking a lot of wine almost every night and it's annoying and wrong. She will not stop, even if I plug my ears and ask her to, telling me all about how we have no money and she can't afford anything and that she can't help much with college. She tries to tell me all the time to pay for stuff on my own that I shouldn't be buying such as groceries, razors, bras, bodywash, necessities. Then, she goes off and blows all of her money on random unimportant things. It makes me so angry, I have so much anger towards her that sometimes I even want to hit her. I don't know what to do. PLEASE HELP, sorry it was long.

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Ugly

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Hi
Sorry, i did not read your post. It was too hard. Let me give you a friendly tip. When writing longer posts, use paragraphs and breaks. This giant wall of words is often difficult to read and some people, such as myself, won't even try. By adding in paragraphs and breaks makes it easier on the eyes, easier to follow and gives you a better chance of getting more responses.
Though by going by the title it sounds like a difficult situation. I hope you can get some good help for it.
 
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junebug

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Oh also, she expects me to give her validation, she often acts like she wants to be the child and I am supposed to be the mom. It really has messed me up because how does a kid learn how to handle being responsible for an adult?
 
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intercessorginger

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Dear Junebug,
It probably takes another person who has lived with a similar situation to understand what you are going through. I see that you are about to graduate and that is a good thing for you. The bible does say, we are to owe no man anything,but to love them. I can tell that you do love your mom, but you can't be a "mom to her".
My immediate advice is to go ahead and graduate from High School and try for a College Schollarship if you can. The best thing you can do for yourself is to have a life of your own away from this type of manipulation and pressure. You will be able to think clearer and love better..apart from this. I could say a lot more here..but this is a good first step for you. If you can get your own place after graduation, even if you go to Jr. College and have a friend as a roommate and a part time job, you will be happier then you probably are now.
 

leelee

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Your mum is depressed, it is very hard to live with a parent who has a mental illness (trust me, i know, my dad is schizophrenic and has paranoid depression so thinks the church is trying to kill him), i suggest you try and get your mum some help. i was the one that alerted the doc to my dads issues.

it is too much for you to face alone and i totally get it but do try and imagine what it feels like to feel totally out of control of your life ad in actual despair.

your mum is not having an easy time either so try not to get frustrated, try to stay calm because even though you might not want to hear what she is saying you are not helping her or your relationship with her.

what you are atm seeing as selfish is actually just a very unhappy person. it doesn't mean she isn't proud of you it just means she is so overwhelmed by her own despair she can't express it.

if you want to pm me to chat then i might be able to help. i really do get what its like.

p.s, your post was quite hard to read as it was so bunched up x
 
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kayem77

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It sounds like your mom is deeply depressed, what leelee said is correct, she is selfish because she is unhappy...try not to take this very personal, my mom is similar to yours and I've learned that she acts selfish because her pain and emotional distress makes her indifferent to anyone else's feelings.She always denies she has a problem and I can bet that your mom denies she has a problem too. I know it's hard to deal with your mom a lot of the times, but try to be pacient, people with mental or emotional problems don't respond well to nagging (been there, done that).

I would suggest that you talk to someone in your family who is realiable about your mom's problem, see if you can help her, maybe take her to counseling or something that would make the situation a lil better because I can imagine how much this is affecting you. You can't be your mom's mom, you can pray and ask God for guidance and wisdom through all this...who knows maybe one day she will reflect on how much you cared for her even though she wasn't very nice to you, but remember that changing her heart is up to God and only him. I'm glad you are still focused and that it seems you are not abusing of your freedom :) keep it up like that, try to find help for her, be patient, but don't push yourself too much (I've been there too).
I wish the best for your situation, God bless you.
 
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junebug

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Thanks guys, sorry it was bunched, I tried to fix it but the site wouldn't let me..
 
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Ugly

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Once you put up a post you have a 5 minute time limit to edit the post. After 5 minutes you can't edit it.
 
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spirit

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Just by reading the basics , I totally understand your situation as my mother is very similar, who is selfish and unfortunatley because she cannot speak english she is always full of self pity and is a very negative person. Beacuse you are young , I understand you have to bear with it, but one thing that saved my sanity is to speak to someone about it , even if its your school councillor. Do not be embarraseed and think its not worth it , it will be . Beacuse I opened up, other people taught me right from wrong, and you will feel a big sense of relief. You are crying all the time beacuse you a cooped insode your house facing her. You maybe seventeen but next year you will be an adult and that is something to look forward to. Do your best at school, pick the subjects that you enjoy doing, listen to people who give you good advice ( such as a teacher ) and you will become a strong person. Because your mother is not strong and confident with herself and life, she chooses to live that way. Once you choose how you want to live, she will change for sure. Good luck xx
 
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Your mother sounds very histrionic/narcissistic to me. It's very hard to get through to someone like that, because they have this inherent "my way or the highway" attitude. They perceive you finding any flaw in them as an insult, and a threat. Narcissists live completely within their heads, they are not an identity but rather a fantasy identity. In fact they really have no deeper self, which is why they seem cold and distant. They don't want you to find out that there's nothing behind the facade.

Perhaps on some level you can appeal to her as her daughter, give her an ultimatum of some sort. I don't know what, but something heavy.
 
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Belteshazzar

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1. Forgive. Forgive. Forgive. It is the hardest thing to do, but if you are to ever have peace and to find the will of God, you must.

2. God doesn't allow situations such as this without something that is to be birthed in us through the sufferings. If you find out what it is and focus on Christ and allow Him to work in you what He wills, it will be very much to your benefit. You might be surprised at how God works and what He can accomplish in you if you submit to Him and depend on His strength rather than your own.

3. There is no cure and no way to deal with someone who is in the state of mind that your mother is. The only things you can do is to pray for her, to demonstrate Christ's love to her (without conditions and without restraint), and to seek outside help.
 
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keep_on_smiling

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1. Forgive. Forgive. Forgive. It is the hardest thing to do, but if you are to ever have peace and to find the will of God, you must.

2. God doesn't allow situations such as this without something that is to be birthed in us through the sufferings. If you find out what it is and focus on Christ and allow Him to work in you what He wills, it will be very much to your benefit. You might be surprised at how God works and what He can accomplish in you if you submit to Him and depend on His strength rather than your own.

3. There is no cure and no way to deal with someone who is in the state of mind that your mother is. The only things you can do is to pray for her, to demonstrate Christ's love to her (without conditions and without restraint), and to seek outside help.
I completely agree with what he has mentioned. I can tell you love your mum and truly want change, but we can't change a person. Only God can change a person's heart/desires. Keep praying for her and your situation.

Know that you will be greatly blessed by showing her love and being there for her. This doesn't mean you should let her bring you down though. Keep the love and respect (as she is your mother) for her, but don't let her make you feel bad.

It's great that you are going to school. I think that will really help you deal with her in a better way. Congratulations by the way!!! You have a lot on your plate and have done so well with it.

Keep seeking God!
 
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shekaniah

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Is your mom in menopause or even premenopausal? This can make women act very strange.
Do you have a grandparent you can live with... or older sibling. I had a friend you went ot live with her grandparents.
It worked out great, she picked up things at the store for them and they gave her a loving supportive place to live.

I will pray for you and your Mom...God Bless and take care.
 
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Wow I can't believe how mature you seem to sound for someone your age and who's been through so much. Your adult life starts in less than a year. She's had 17 years with you. It's not time now for you to reexplore some child life with your mommy. It's time for you to just focus on getting on your own two feet so you can move out live on your own and start to build your own life. she' not gonna build it for you. Your not gonna be able to somehow magically change her either. Here's what might happen. You move out. She' on her own, then she'll miss you, and when you get together with her from time to time she'll then appreciate that time with you so much more. right now you're living with her I assume and so she doesn't appreciate you at all. So please just focus on you. You have much bigger fish to fry right now than putting your mother in the pan. Just focus on your school, career, finding a place, meeting a guy, etc. Thats' the thing about families. Most often in this day and age familys join, then unjoin, they still love each other, but people need to spread there wings and fly and move on too. So that's where you're at now. Good lukc.