Wife is emotional bully. .

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syborg

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I am a christian of several years and have an issue within my marriage. .

This may end up being a long post so I apologise ahead of time. . I will try to keep as short as possible. . ahem. .

It is fair to say I have had my issues. .I have not been the best man in the world. . suffering rejection, anger, jealousy and insecurity along with paranoia blah blah blah. . lots of issues due to no mother growing up and an abusive father. I found my self hiding behind all these masks to justify my behaviour before I came to Christ and sought help. .I feel I am pretty well adjusted now. . walking away from rows rather than engaging them. . trying to mind my tongue where I may have let loose just 18 months ago.

Now I am cleaned up and have clearer vision I relaise my wife is a bully on an emotional level. .she exhibits the following with frequent regularity:

Bullying. If she doesn’t get her way, there’s hell to pay. She wants to control me and resorts to emotional intimidation to do it. She uses verbal assaults and threats in order to get me to do what she wants. It makes her feel powerful to make me feel bad.

Unreasonable expectations. No matter how hard I try and how much I give, it’s never enough. She expects me to drop whatever I'm doing and attend to her needs. No matter the inconvenience, she comes first. She has an endless list of demands that no one mere mortal could ever fulfill. Common complaints include: You’re not romantic enough, you don’t spend enough time with me, you’re not sensitive enough, you’re not smart enough to figure out my needs, you’re not making enough money, you’re not FILL IN THE BLANK enough. Basically, I'm not enough, because there’s no pleasing this woman.


Verbal attacks.This is self-explanatory. She employs schoolyard name calling, pathologizing (e.g., armed with a superficial knowledge of psychology she uses diagnostic terms like labile, paranoid, narcissistic, etc. for a 50-cent version of name calling), criticizing, threatening, screaming, yelling, swearing, sarcasm, humiliation, exaggerating my flaws, and making fun of me in front of others, including our children and other people she’s not intimidated by.


Gaslighting. “I didn’t do that. I didn’t say that. I don’t know what you’re talking about. It wasn’t that bad. You’re imagining things. Stop making things up


Unpredictable responses. What is ok today is not ok tomorrow leavingme on edge as if walking on eggshells.


Constant Chaos. She’s addicted to conflict. She gets a charge from the adrenaline and drama. She may deliberately start arguments and conflict as a way to avoid intimacy, to avoid being called on her rubbish, to avoid feeling inferior or, bewilderingly, as an attempt to avoid being abandoned. She may also pick fights to keep me engaged or as a way to get me to react to her with hostility, so that she can accuse me of being abusive and she can play the victim. This maneuver is, I believe, a defense mechanism called projective identification.



Emotional Blackmail. She threatens to abandon me, to end the relationship, or give me the cold shoulder if I don’t play by her rules.


So my question is what do I do. . the other day I came home to find she had cut up some of my clothes and broke some personal items only because I had taken our 2 boys out on a bike ride she did not want me to take them on as she thought it was unfair for me to take our boys on the bikes leaving her with the 2 girls???


If I seperate from her due to emotional bullying and intimidation as well as criminal damage on my personal items will God hold me in judgement?


I should also say she explained her trashing my stuff and cutting up my clothes as my fault for leaving her in a rage and rejecting her. . I Told her I was rejecting the argument not her. .as it was unhelathy to behave like this in front of the children and as I had promised the boys a bike ride I was not wanting them to be let down as she wanted me to. .she mocked me by saying in a childish whiny voice. . ooh look at me the perfect parent not letting down the boys. . she text me to tell me we were over. . but tells me I am rejecting her?


I have no doubt this relationship is abusive. . but what to do - as she thinks it is ALL me and she is fine!!


Help please.
 
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Its amazing how there is a lot of people like your wife but in your case, she may have a physicological problem as well which of course she won't admit ( seriously who would ). My mother was quite unstable when we were growing up and even though she never did anything outrageous like "cutting things up" she used to use emotional blackmail if we didn't listen to her and no joke she even blamed us for all her problems even though we were small kids and it wasn't till I actuall got married and moved out that I realised she really ( and is still is) a miserable and unstable person . I believe it may have stemmed the separation of coming to a new country ( she is from China) and she was not taught how to cope in a crisis and is ALWAYS insecure emotionally.

That is what has become of your wife. She has started to act destructively ( hence cutting things) so whats next? Blackmailing , abusive behaviour etc etc so you need to stop this now. If you want harmony in the family both of you need to go to a family councellor who deals with conflict and the sooner you do it the better before thing get worse. The expections that arise from her is excactly like my mothers, because she thinks the world owes her. I am assuming she may have had a deprived upbringing from her own parents? not enough attention? She may even have a narcisstic personality which can also be determined by a therapist.
10 years ago my husband lost control too with behavioural problems ( nothing physical) and God and Church saved his sanity and his life. So at the end of the day she lost control on how to cope that is what it comes down too. God Bless your family and hope you both seek some answers.
 

OnThisRock

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Woweee!!! She sounds angry! Like a fire cracker, or sort of, a downed wire ready to zap out on people? But, guess what. There is always a reason. Maybe this will help. Get to really know what the root is before you split. Is it really about you? Sometimes one needs to see the true root of the pain and how the devil attacks through this pain. See, we are not fighting against flesh and blood but spirits and principalities that attach to pain and use the person.

Sometimes, it's not as obvious, especially if there is a build up of resentment over the fights u had from the past. If you pray for the Lord to show you how to pray, you will really get you to know how to pray for her, interact with her and to fight the enemy off of your relationship. Resentments can build and cover over hurts and strongholds from the past which then invites the devil (spirit) into your marriage. (hurts could be from her family, not feeling validated by you over time). And, if she is not following the Lord this can make it more tricky in how the enemy fights. Sounds like you are seeking with the Lord, so your prayers are powerful.

Can I tell u a story? I use to be like this (before I knew the Lord) and before being delivered and healing in this area. All I needed was to feel loved by my ex. What I realized later was that I needed my ex to understand the pain from my past and to understand my heart rather than thinking I was crazy. There was a point in time, where I did think we would work, and it was a point, when I felt he really 'got me'. One time, he looked me in the eyes, past my pain and said to me "you never had a family, it's time to move on". He GOT ME. There were other circumstances involved and we didn't make it, but I share this because I really realize now, that all I needed was validation or just love, even though I was not right.

I am not justifying her escapades, but usually this behavior is deeply rooted in not being understood in many areas, over time, from many different people and you are now the main person in her life, so it's coming out on you.

God bless you and I am happy you are healing! I will pray for your wife!
 
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Strong1

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So, you probably know your wife best....right?
What happened to her in life? What was so toxic in her upbringing/past that has brought her to this?
From reading your post I can see that she has real issues with her securiity, and I hate to say it but, your missing the mark as her husband on how to protect her? Protect her, you ask? Yeah, she actually has an extremely fagile heart. This does not excuse her behaviour in the least though. Councilling is a sure bet for the two of you. Once you get deep at the root, I guarantee there are some abuse issues that she has faced, maybe some Daddy issues? Something from her past where she feels she "must" be in control, or strong(but it is a false strength instead)
You could be such a hero in this if you can find out where her heart was broken, and help her to fix that of course with God's help. It takes such strength and patience on your part though. If you guys are not carefull, your daughters will follow the same trend eventually.
 

shemaiah

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All I have to say is splitting up won't help her nor your children. Counselling seems to be the best option right now. I also think you should pray more about this and ask God to help you find 'holes' in her life that may help you get the situation over with. And in situations where she tears up stuff and things like that, wait for her to get over it and then tell her that you didn't like what she did and and are just trying to make your home a better place in calm manner. If she still bursts in anger, leave her alone for some time. I will pray for you. God bless
 
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syborg

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This reminds me an awful lot of the following copyrighted article on emotional bullying:

10 Signs Your Girlfriend or Wife is an Emotional Bully A Shrink for Men

It would seem that the solution at the bottom of the article you plagiarized is either for your wife to receive counseling or for you to leave the marriage.
Yes . . rather than type it all out I used the already typed version. .she fulfills the critea of the items I listed. . im not trying to plagerize anything. . but should have given the credit. . but it was late and I was tired. .the solution(s) given is not a christian one and I wanted christian advice from my bretheren on this. . thanks for your input.
 
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syborg

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Thank you to all those who have given advice and offered prayers. . God bless.
 
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BADDOG

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well your stuck !!! a few questions you have to ask yourself though and there some tuff ones
1 do you want to go on like this forever??
2 do you want a divorce (remember most women get the kids )
3 no matter what you do it will hurt like hell
4 do you want your kids growing up in all this mess

these would be the questions i would ask my self
 
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Ugly

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Dude... this isn't bullying... you are in a fully abusive relationship. Abuse. No man wants to think they're abused by their wives, but it happens, and is happening to you.
 

Lucy68

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She really needs professional help! Will she go to counseling?

What is true for abused wives is also true for abused husbands...you don't have to take this kind of treatment.

Do you have another place to live for awhile? Tell her until she gets herself under control and seeks professional help you will not return to the house. If you are the bread-winner of the family, you do have leverage. I don't like saying that but lets face reality, she's dependent on you (?) so you can use that to 'force' her to get some help.

The question is...is she threatening toward the children? Will she hurt them to get back at you? Make sure she understands that this isn't divorce but a cooling off time to get the marriage fixed.

I'll be praying for you brother and that she is open to change :)
 
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WorshippingGod

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Syborg, I feel for you!

Reading your post brought back many memories for me and at times I wondered if you were married to my sister..lol, which I knew you weren't, but as you first started to describe things that your wife was doing and how she was behaving, my sister was the first person that came to mind and I was reminded of all the times in my adult life that I had tried to make a relationship work with her, but it just never did. No matter what I would say or do it was never good enough. Whatever she wanted, you did or gave to here or she made your life miserable. She was controlling, demanding and manipulative (and she still is). She expects everyone's life and world to revolve around her and if not then you are the enemy. She called me the same names that you listed your wife as calling you, and she would do so in public blogs, twisting the truth around to make herself look innocent and the victim. And it wasn't just me, it was everyone around her that she does it too. The last time I tried to have a relationship with her, I was in tears walking home and I had made my mind up that I was going to take all the pills I could find when I got home and just lay down and go to sleep and it would all be over with, I just couldn't live life like this anymore, I was a broken woman. Praise the Lord though on my way home He spoke to my heart and I never did anything and vowed I would never get to that place in life again where I would think about doing so.

But as a close friend kept ministering to me, I knew no matter what, I had to shake the dust off my feet and never look back or return there again. It was a hard thing for me to do, because I have always been the peacemaker in the family, always wanting everyone to get along. I would rather be hurting myself, than to see someone else hurting. So I always sacrificed my own happiness to please everyone else. And this caused deep issues in my life that I have struggled to overcome the last 13 years of my life. I still have a ways to go, but I am no longer the same person I once was. I had to let her go from my life for my own health.

And some of the other things you had mentioned in your post, I saw my mother in them. She did similar things and she too, like my sister was controlling, demanding and manipulative. My mother did no wrong in her own eyes, it was always everyone elses fault. She would deny ever doing or saying things, but turned it around and would accuse me of doing or saying the very things she did herself, making it out like she was the victim and I the villain. I grew up with mental, physical, verbal and emotional abuse from my mother.

Neither my sister or my mother believe in Gods word and because I had accepted the Lord into my life, it drove a wedge between me and them. I pray for them, I forgive them and my door is always open to them when and if they can accept Christ into their lives, but for now, for my own sanity sake, I needed to walk away, any relationship with either one, was a toxic one.

But, enough about me. I just wanted to let you know I feel your pain, and that many others face the same things as you, so you are not alone in this. Each situation with each individual is different, so I really cannot offer much advice, but just cling to Christ and keep praying, He will let you know what to do. I have not read each post here, but one I scanned over did mention "abuse" and that to is what I believe this is. God does not want anyone living in an abusive marriage, He wants His children to be happy and have joy in life. I know there are places to go and talk to counselors if you are a woman being abused, and I am sure somewhere out there must be one for men too. Maybe you could check the web and see.

Another thought that was brought to my attention a few years back, I wonder if your wife might have bipolar disorder. We came to the conclusion that this might be what my mother has and possibly wondering if my sister might have it too. It is just a thought.

Please forgive me for not being able to really answer your questions and concerns as you are seeking some guidance, but I felt as I was reading your post that the Lord wanted me to share with you a little of my own experiences. We each go through things in life, so we can be prepared for others that will go through and face the same things we have, so we can be more understanding, sympathetic and give encouragement. I don't believe I have done much of that for you, but know that I will surely lift you and your family in prayer.

And please remember too, that you alone are not the only one in your family being affected by this. Your children are watching and soaking everything up, their young minds are impressionable, and they will begin to think that this is normal behavior for a woman to act this way and that it is alright. Parents are a child's greatest role model and influence. Which I am sure you already know these things.

God bless and please take care. I would love to know how things turn out for you, so please keep your brothers and sisters in Christ up to date. Praying for you and your family.
 
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Jullianna

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I agree that it is absolute emotional abuse and manipulation. Have you asked HER to read the article? Would she recognize herself at all? Will she agree to counseling and/or medical testing?

You are absolutely right in assuming godly leadership in your home, especially since you have children to love and set an example for. You have an opportunity to stop this cycle of abuse by teaching your sons AND daughters that this is unacceptable.

It seems that your wife is actually the one with the decision to make. She needs to decide whether or not she is capable of being the godly, RESPECTFUL wife God has called her to be or not. Your love, patience and encouragement will play an essential part in that, but that doesn't include remaining her doormat.
 

damombomb

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Also bring these things to her attention if possible,mabe she doesn't realize how awful shes
acting. Just say no, or stop but get her attention about the drama, set some bounderies.
Also explain to her the bible says not to go by emotions, but by faith
Hope this helps
 
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afloyd30

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I am a christian of several years and have an issue within my marriage. .

This may end up being a long post so I apologise ahead of time. . I will try to keep as short as possible. . ahem. .

It is fair to say I have had my issues. .I have not been the best man in the world. . suffering rejection, anger, jealousy and insecurity along with paranoia blah blah blah. . lots of issues due to no mother growing up and an abusive father. I found my self hiding behind all these masks to justify my behaviour before I came to Christ and sought help. .I feel I am pretty well adjusted now. . walking away from rows rather than engaging them. . trying to mind my tongue where I may have let loose just 18 months ago.

Now I am cleaned up and have clearer vision I relaise my wife is a bully on an emotional level. .she exhibits the following with frequent regularity:

Bullying. If she doesn’t get her way, there’s hell to pay. She wants to control me and resorts to emotional intimidation to do it. She uses verbal assaults and threats in order to get me to do what she wants. It makes her feel powerful to make me feel bad.

Unreasonable expectations. No matter how hard I try and how much I give, it’s never enough. She expects me to drop whatever I'm doing and attend to her needs. No matter the inconvenience, she comes first. She has an endless list of demands that no one mere mortal could ever fulfill. Common complaints include: You’re not romantic enough, you don’t spend enough time with me, you’re not sensitive enough, you’re not smart enough to figure out my needs, you’re not making enough money, you’re not FILL IN THE BLANK enough. Basically, I'm not enough, because there’s no pleasing this woman.


Verbal attacks.This is self-explanatory. She employs schoolyard name calling, pathologizing (e.g., armed with a superficial knowledge of psychology she uses diagnostic terms like labile, paranoid, narcissistic, etc. for a 50-cent version of name calling), criticizing, threatening, screaming, yelling, swearing, sarcasm, humiliation, exaggerating my flaws, and making fun of me in front of others, including our children and other people she’s not intimidated by.


Gaslighting. “I didn’t do that. I didn’t say that. I don’t know what you’re talking about. It wasn’t that bad. You’re imagining things. Stop making things up


Unpredictable responses. What is ok today is not ok tomorrow leavingme on edge as if walking on eggshells.


Constant Chaos. She’s addicted to conflict. She gets a charge from the adrenaline and drama. She may deliberately start arguments and conflict as a way to avoid intimacy, to avoid being called on her rubbish, to avoid feeling inferior or, bewilderingly, as an attempt to avoid being abandoned. She may also pick fights to keep me engaged or as a way to get me to react to her with hostility, so that she can accuse me of being abusive and she can play the victim. This maneuver is, I believe, a defense mechanism called projective identification.



Emotional Blackmail. She threatens to abandon me, to end the relationship, or give me the cold shoulder if I don’t play by her rules.


So my question is what do I do. . the other day I came home to find she had cut up some of my clothes and broke some personal items only because I had taken our 2 boys out on a bike ride she did not want me to take them on as she thought it was unfair for me to take our boys on the bikes leaving her with the 2 girls???


If I seperate from her due to emotional bullying and intimidation as well as criminal damage on my personal items will God hold me in judgement?


I should also say she explained her trashing my stuff and cutting up my clothes as my fault for leaving her in a rage and rejecting her. . I Told her I was rejecting the argument not her. .as it was unhelathy to behave like this in front of the children and as I had promised the boys a bike ride I was not wanting them to be let down as she wanted me to. .she mocked me by saying in a childish whiny voice. . ooh look at me the perfect parent not letting down the boys. . she text me to tell me we were over. . but tells me I am rejecting her?


I have no doubt this relationship is abusive. . but what to do - as she thinks it is ALL me and she is fine!!


Help please.
hello, how are you doing?
 
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Your wife sounds like my husband. From what I understand in the bible, we have to be married unless there is adultery. If we leave and there wasn't any adultery, than if we meet another we are commiting adultery. Finding a christian counseler, is definitley a great idea. I think we will be returning to counseling ourselves. If you want to bounce ideas, or support, friend me and we can do that. I have always wanted a man's opinion when I attempt to do something. Maybe I will be able to help you, since I am a woman? Although, I am the opposite of your wife. I wish you the best!
 
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I hope these help answer some questions....
Mathew 5:27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[a] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[b] 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


Mathew 19:3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”



Malachi 2:13 Another thing you do: You flood the LORD’s altar with tears. You weep and wail because he no longer looks with favor on your offerings or accepts them with pleasure from your hands. 14 You ask, “Why?” It is because the LORD is the witness between you and the wife of your youth. You have been unfaithful to her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant.

15 Has not the one God made you? You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring.[d] So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful to the wife of your youth.
16 “The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the LORD, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect,”[e] says the LORD Almighty. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.


Luke 7:36 When one of the Pharisees invited Jesus to have dinner with him, he went to the Pharisee’s house and reclined at the table. 37 A woman in that town who lived a sinful life learned that Jesus was eating at the Pharisee’s house, so she came there with an alabaster jar of perfume. 38 As she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them.

39 When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is—that she is a sinner.”
40 Jesus answered him, “Simon, I have something to tell you.”
“Tell me, teacher,” he said.
41 “Two people owed money to a certain moneylender. One owed him five hundred denarii,[c] and the other fifty. 42 Neither of them had the money to pay him back, so he forgave the debts of both. Now which of them will love him more?”
43 Simon replied, “I suppose the one who had the bigger debt forgiven.”
“You have judged correctly,” Jesus said.
44 Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”
48 Then Jesus said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”
49 The other guests began to say among themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?” 50 Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”


Colossians 3: 1 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. 3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is your[a] life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.[b] 7 You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 8 But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips. 9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11 Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
12 Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13 Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14 And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. 15 Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful. 16 Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. 17 And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. 18 Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.
20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. 21 Fathers,[c] do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged.

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
 
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SomeonePleaseHelp1

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Praying for you <3
 
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beyondbroken

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I am so sorry you are going through all of this. I am praying for you. I am praying that the scales of deception are removed from your wifes eyes so that she can see how she is mistreating you. I will pray the veils of deception are removed from her heart! I would def recommend counseling. And just keep praying! If God can raise the dead, He surely can soften a heart! I pray for complete healing for your marriage and emotions.