How Do I forgive My Cheating Husband and Stay with him?

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browneyedgirlygirl

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Here is a "brief" detail of my sistuation:
n August 2012 my husband of 5yrs admitted to cheating on me through out our entire relationship with multiple woman multiple times, So many I couldn't actually count nor could he tell me. He also didn't tell me the complete truth about it all until a month after he revealed he had cheated. He wants to be with me still and decided to go with me to counseling which has helped us some but he only wants to go when a major problem comes up that we can't fix it ourselves. We are both believers and are trying to make this work with God, but I am still struggling with it all.

Today I was researching forgiveness (which my therapist has me doing) and it has lead to an emotional and upsetting day to say the least. I agree with everything I have read and I have heard it before and felt the way they are saying before, As in "This wont feel like this forever" and " You can create a stronger marriage after". These things are all things that went through my mind and are things I have felt since "revelation" (meaning when he told me he cheated) but I feel like I am going back and forth with these feelings because now my feeling is He doesn't deserve to have a 2nd chance, I shouldn't have to forgive him, and I want someone who will treat me better and who will not do this to me (even though I don't believe that kind of man exists anymore.)

Can anyone give me any kind of advice or words of encouragement in this situation? I really need them right now.. TIA..
 
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BarlyGurl

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I have this idea... that what you might need to hear right now is this...
Forgiveness is for YOU... it is to not be enslaved to the bitterness that grows from this kind of betrayal. Scripturally speaking you are not required to "forgive" as in overlook, this habitually infidelity your husband has been committing... you can divorce him.... you have just cause and we can discuss that extensively if you wish. I want you to NOT feel guilty for your anger and hurt as it is aproppriate and right. I am wondering if you might consider asking for a short separation from him to be able to process your feelings and intentions more prayerfully before the Lord without having the pressure of "acting" like a married couple?
 
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God says that "Vengenous is mine". Just give him over to let God take care of it. Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. God is in power, our world operates on God principles. When we don't let the wrongs done us go, we are trying to take God's place and we can't do that. When we try it just comes back on us.

Then put yourself into God's hands. Fill your mind with God's words, and trust in where this leads. There is really only one thing for you to do, that is the best you can with each day as it comes and trust that in the end, it will result in your good.
 
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browneyedgirlygirl

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Thanks so much for replying. I have asked him for a separation but he thinks that if I want to separate then I want to get divorced and he doesn't see the need in it. He has SERIOUS control Issues and has a Black or White type of view on things never grey.. and the fact that he doesn't want to go to counseling and makes a big deal about me wanting him to go because he knows if he doesn't then I think he isn't committed to working through this when in turn thats exactly what I think with the way he is reacting to all of this including my "mourning" processes I am going through that seems to come and go which he "doesn't understand why we are doing good and then I get all upset and it all starts over again".. He has been "Clean" for 6 months and feels like he is cured of his sexual addiction and that I don't give him credit for that.. and it goes on and on.. I am just so tired of it all.
 
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browneyedgirlygirl

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God says that "Vengenous is mine". Just give him over to let God take care of it. Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. God is in power, our world operates on God principles. When we don't let the wrongs done us go, we are trying to take God's place and we can't do that. When we try it just comes back on us.

Then put yourself into God's hands. Fill your mind with God's words, and trust in where this leads. There is really only one thing for you to do, that is the best you can with each day as it comes and trust that in the end, it will result in your good.
Thank you so Much for those words of encouragement. I do feel like If I stay in God's word I feel better through this journey, but I also question if I should be taking this journey with my husband or without?.. I know that no one can answer that for me though and this is one of my many struggles, worrying if I am doing the right thing by staying with him and allowing our lives to go on together after he has done this to me. It's all just so Hard.
 
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and it goes on and on.. I am just so tired of it all.
That is because you are wrapped up in the happenings of yesterday and not letting loose of it.

It seems impossible that words written 2,000 years ago works in the world we live today, but they report how our world works. It was created to work that way. God would say to let it go, it is behind you. You are forgiven of any part you could have had in this, God will take care of his part of it. You have only to live today the very best you know how. You aren't promised a life without any troubles any more, but you are promised that everything will work out for your good. You have only to give yourself to God's kingdom. It works out a lot better than anything we can work out, it is in line with the laws of the universe. Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
 
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I want to try. My brother messed around on his wife and led to a bitter divorce. She now HATES him dearly. In fact she hates him so much for years her entire life has been built around this hate and bitterness. She now feels God has forgotten her as she tried to go to bible studies, church and spiritual events but her relationship with Chrisng is distant at best. I told her she must forgive my brother. Not taking his side but for her. Because the poison of hate is killing her. Jesus forgives us freely even though none of us deserve it. We are all sinners. But he also has told us we must forgive others. That is because in his nature that is not thinking about me and thinking about them and that is what it means to be a Christian. For 9 years I did not speak with my father as he did some terrible bad things and yet claimed to be a Christian. But I always wrestled with bad feelings over this. One day I knew I had to go to him, tell him I forgive him and him please forgive me. I did this not because he was right and me wrong, but because my life is not about me and neither was Jesus life. He gave his life for us and he told us the greatest among us are the servants to each other and the slave to others. Therefore, I had to do this. Release and joy became plentiful but it was the most difficult thing I ever had to do. You are facing the same. You may not want to be with your husband again I do not know and you are justified spiritually for staying away, but you must go to God and seek God and listen to God and when you do he wants you to forgive him. Forgiveness is the best healing medicine God gives us believe me. I pray for you.
 
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Hi

Look it has taken some time but at least he was honest enough to come to you and admit it. Give him credit for this if nothing else, you would be surprised how many people live in self denial even when they are caught red handed say it was not their fault.

You say it is an addiction? well a sex addiction is no different to any other. (same horse different jockey) this does not usually stop till they hit rock bottom.

Forgiveness does not mean you have to go back to the relationship if you do not wish to. Forgiveness means you do not hate anymore or mean the person harm or be vindictive in anyway.

Ask yourself very honestly and think deeply, does your soul still care? as long as your soul still cares you will keep going back. Is this person strong enough and caring enough about you to make any attempt to stop?

If they are not your caring will destroy you,destroy your soul and your family. If there is a change that is to be made it is going to have to be both of you. Because if you let it carry on you will then be enabling him. You are going to have to be the strong one.

You could also decide you are able to live with this because he has other good things going for him. Many a wife has stayed with a gay husband because they love and care enough . Also because the husband cares for her. This is a decision that has to be talked over at length by both of you. And perhaps a Councillor or reputable member of a church.
(please do not come the gay bit with me) this was an example.

Remember you have to love yourself before you can love anything else and your bible does tell you to be discerning in all things.

I wish you all the luck in the world you have a lot of decisions to make write a list and then think about it.
Do not be quick to let others influence you let your soul and self-truth guide you
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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OUCH!!!

...my husband of 5yrs admitted to cheating on me through out our entire relationship with multiple woman multiple times, So many I couldn't actually count nor could he tell me.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I think you all need to get tested for aids and stds and it's high time for some codependency recovery for you and some sexual addiction recovery for him. This IS very serious and you should treat it as such in my opinion.

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Browneyedgirl. I can not tell you what to do. First you must seek the Lord in all matters. But, girl you don't have to live this way. I would suggest that before you leave(and I think you should) contact the police. He may become violent and do something heinous. Find friends or family to help protect you.

There is always forgiveness and reconciliation with God. However, you need to show him, you mean business.

My prayers are with you and may God bless you
 
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No one can tell you what to do...as christians,we have sooooo many opinions. I am going thru a separation myself,and it hurts,like there is no tomorrow! But I need to hear God for my situation.I am trying to keep my heart soft...I ask the Lord for help with that all the time. My one thought is,before you make any big decisions,go away...the country, a cabin,a hotel....something ALONE..so you can fast,pray and seek God's voice....take 2 or 3 days...and then go back to normal life,but meditate on the things you heard.Be strong in the Lord!
 

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Hi Browney girl

I went through a brief marriage (same age as you) and once I realized my ex was also involved in bad stuff, I submitted to the Lord and got healthier and the Lord gave me a healthier perspective about my life. Well guess what happened? My ex did not like it and controlled himself right out of the marriage. Really, all your answers and victories will be in seeking the Lord and getting closer to HIM. God will then lead you in the way that is the best for you. That's a WIN WIN for you, no matter what your husband does. Getting closer to the Lord, does heal you even in ways you may not even know...... I found that the more I sought God, the more I saw my ex run from God, so God said, "NOPE". At one point, I realized he was soo lost, that I started feeling a Godly sorrow for him and was then able to forgive (even though he quickly married someone else). As you cling to and give it all to the Lord, your perfect heavenly HUSBAND, you will see your situation really clearly and be able to make the best decisions for YOU. You are alot freer than you think.

Prayers for you, and keep up your walk, no matter what happens! It's painful sis I know! We will be here for you!

ps. His control issues have nothing to do with you, because he lost control after he violated your marriage vows.
 
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Five years ago I found out my wife had cheated on me. I also know of another man she probably cheated with but I never had any proof. Shortly after the discovery of her adultery, she found a new friend, a lesbian whom she later shacked up with.

No one would ever blame me for divorcing her and I had thought about it. I was with a christian friend and we both prayed for God to inform me of His wishes for my marriage. I got a very soft "Not now" answer and my friend also said he got the same thing. So I waited and did what was needed for almost 3 years. I was on the phone talking to this same christian and complaining about how long it had been. Suddenly I heard a very loud and clear voice from with in say "I waited longer for you". That hurt. I had walked away from God for more than a decade and yet He brought me back to Him. It's now been over 5 years since the discovery of her adultery and I am still waiting on God to repair the marriage. Amazingly, she has not filed for divorce either.

I can't give you any solid advice except for this:

1) As others have mentioned, forgiveness is not an option for Christians. We are commanded to forgive or we will not be permitted into Heaven.

2) Nothing is more important than being able to hear from God about your own circumstances. If you do not hear from God then find someone who does and ask them to help you with hearing from God. Hearing from God is powerful and life changing.
 

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If he really wants to repair the marriage, he will go to counseling with you. Is that so much to ask after what he's done? Really? Praying for you both! Healing is possible, it might just take a while.
 
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Mayco

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I could not stay married when adultery has occurred.
Yes, we all sin in our hearts, but even the bible states there is a difference between lusting and the physical act of cheating with sex.
Maybe a couple can overcome their infidelity, but I don't think I could.
There is the trust issue that would always pop up during times of arguing and stress.
There is the disease aspect of it too.
Kids could learn so much about forgiveness and reconciliation, but it's also part of the breaking of the promises between the couple, and God.
Many people who call for reconciliation have never been a victim of infidelity or are the one who did the cheating.
There is always a lot of guilt heaped on the victim if there is no reconciliation between a cheating spouse.
Reconciliation does not always mean getting back together,.
It can mean to end the hate and anger and to allow forgiveness in the heart.
That is how I understand the scriptures in regards to cheating.
Mind you, this is not to say, when we have a fight, we should divorce but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.
Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death.
 
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I too found out in October about my wife having had an affair with a friend of mine in July. I found out from an anonymous source. I questioned her. She designed it until I told her to swear on her dying mother's life. She confessed. They were sexual & she says it was only a few times while I was out of town working. She said it ended in July yet our cell phone records show thousands of texts all the way up to the day I found out. Not only that but there were hundreds of texts to two other men also. She actually shared lots of phone calls with one. He also was a friend & the other the dad of my daughter's friend. She claims those were just friendships. She says she has she has given me complete disclosure & honesty about the details. Where I'm having problems is with the continued texting after it supposedly ended. The images of them having sex is heartbreaking. The day I found out I wanted to end it, but her extreme remorse & begging me to give her another chance made me try to salvage our marriage. You need to ask yourself, is he remorseful? Is he willing to end any ongoing affairs? Do you genuinely love him & he you? Is he willing to give you full accountability? Such as access to everything like cell phone, email, Facebook, everything. Is he open to counseling? My wife did all that and more. She calls me & texts me every minute she can. She has given me access to everything. Anytime she needs to contact another man through work or activities and clubs she tells me. Even forwards their conversations onto me. She tells me where she's at every minute of the day. You get my point to all this. Am I being controlling? No, just holding her accountable. It's to rebuild trust. Until I can trust her again it'll be this way. Does it still hurt like hell? Yes, but with God's help & healing love will find a way. My hope is after all this our marriage will be stronger than ever. If he isn't willing to go the extra mile & make the extra effort like my wife is then divorce maybe the only option. Sorry I got so long winded.
 
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There are some very good reasons why we should, and must forgive.

I will deal with the theological issue first, before I deal with the personal benefits.

Lets start by looking at what Jesus taught about forgiveness.

Luke 11:4 And forgive us our sins, For we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. NKJV

Matt 6:14-15
14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. NKJV

Matt 18:21-35
21 Then Peter came to Him and said, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" 22 Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23 Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' 27 "Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. 28 But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' 29 "So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' 30 "And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. 32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?' 34 "And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. 35 So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses." NKJV

Mark 11:25-26
25 "And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. 26 But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses." NKJV

Luke 6:37
Forgive, and you will be forgiven. NKJV

All of these passages make it plain that our forgiveness for our sin’s is based (in part) upon whether or not we forgive others. Jesus gave the parable (Mtt 18:21-35) Too warn us about the danger of refusing too forgive others. You see, WE are the one’s who owe God the “ten thousand talents”, (i.e. Our sin is so great that there is no way that we can make thing’s right on our own, and we are thus damned to an eternity in Hell.) God, in His mercy, has forgiven us this “debt” that we cannot pay. (And thus changed our destiny from Hell to Heaven) Therefore it is reasonable that we should forgive others who have wronged us. But if we, as true Christian's, should absolutely refuse too forgive other’s who have wronged us; Then God will refuse too forgive us. And the previous “debt” that was previously forgiven will be once again ours to pay. (Which means that we forfeit our salvation, and go too Hell)

Jesus was giving us a parable of Ezek 18. I will give it in its full text so that there is no mis-understanding the context:

Ezek 18:4-32
4 "Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die. 5 But if a man is just And does what is lawful and right; 6 If he has not eaten on the mountains, Nor lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, Nor defiled his neighbor's wife, Nor approached a woman during her impurity; 7 If he has not oppressed anyone, But has restored to the debtor his pledge; Has robbed no one by violence, But has given his bread to the hungry And covered the naked with clothing; 8 If he has not exacted usury Nor taken any increase,
But has withdrawn his hand from iniquity And executed true judgment between man and man; 9 If he has walked in My statutes And kept My judgments faithfully-- He is just; He shall surely live!" Says the Lord GOD.
10 "If he begets a son who is a robber or a shedder of blood, Who does any of these things. 11 And does none of those duties, But has eaten on the mountains Or defiled his neighbor's wife; 12 If he has oppressed the poor and needy, Robbed by violence, Not restored the pledge, Lifted his eyes to the idols, Or committed abomination; 13 If he has exacted usury Or taken increase-- Shall he then live? He shall not live! If he has done any of these abominations, He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him.
14 "If, however, he begets a son Who sees all the sins which his father has done, And considers but does not do likewise; 15 Who has not eaten on the mountains, Nor lifted his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, Nor defiled his neighbor's wife; 16 Has not oppressed anyone, Nor withheld a pledge, Nor robbed by violence, But has given his bread to the hungry And covered the naked with clothing; 17 Who has withdrawn his hand from the poor And not received usury or increase, But has executed My judgments And walked in My statutes--He shall not die for the iniquity of his father; He shall surely live!
18 "As for his father, Because he cruelly oppressed, robbed his brother by violence, and did what is not good among his people, Behold, he shall die for his iniquity.
19 "Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and done them, he shall surely live. 20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
21 "But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. 23 Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" says the Lord GOD, "and not that he should turn from his ways and live?
24 "But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.
25 "Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not fair.' Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? 26 When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies. 27 Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive. 28 Because he considers and turns away from all the transgressions which he committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, 'The way of the Lord is not fair.' O house of Israel, is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair?

30 "Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways," says the Lord GOD. "Repent, and turn from all your transgressions, so that iniquity will not be your ruin. 31 Cast away from you all the transgressions which you have committed, and get yourselves a new heart and a new spirit. For why should you die, O house of Israel? 32 For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the Lord GOD. "Therefore turn and live!
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This passage makes it plain that if you forsake God by becoming rebelious to His ways; that all of your former righeteousness in Christ will be completly forgotten, and all of your former sins will be brought back and charged too your account. It will be as though He had never known you!

It’s repeated in Ezek 33:12-20:

'The righteousness of the righteous man shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression; as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall because of it in the day that he turns from his wickedness; nor shall the righteous be able to live because of his righteousness in the day that he sins.' 13 "When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, but he trusts in his own righteousness and commits iniquity, none of his righteous works shall be remembered; but because of the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die
. 14 Again, when I say to the wicked, 'You shall surely die,' if he turns from his sin and does what is lawful and right, 15 if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has stolen, and walks in the statutes of life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 16 None of his sins which he has committed shall be remembered against him; he has done what is lawful and right; he shall surely live.
17 "Yet the children of your people say, 'The way of the LORD is not fair.' But it is their way which is not fair! 18 When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. 19 But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it. 20 Yet you say, 'The way of the LORD is not fair.' O house of Israel, I will judge every one of you according to his own ways." NKJV

This passage explains what Jesus meant in Matt 7:21-23:
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' NKJV

The Bible tells us that Satan does not cast out Satan, or else his kingdom will fall. (Mk 3:23-26) So if these people who stand before God truly did cast out demons in the name of Jesus. Then you can be certain that they cast them out by the power of God! Hence, these people who are standing before God too be judged, were at one time True Christians. For they could not have cast out demons if they were not true Christians! (Remember the 7 son’s of Sceva? Acts 19:13-17 13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." 14 Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15[One day] the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" 16 Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding. NIV) Yet Jesus claims too have never known them! The only way that this verse makes any sense is if you interpret it in the light of Ezek. Thus these passages also refer too true believers forfeiting their salvation.

Any way, the point is that if you absolutely refuse too forgive: then God will not forgive you. Thus, in order for you too keep the gift of salvation that God has given too you: You must know forgive everyone that has wronged you!
This is the first and most important reason for you too forgive.

The second reason is that if you continue too harbor unforgiveness in your heart, your bitterness will increase, and it will affect every other area of your life. It will cost you friends, your health, and eventually, your life.

Remember that your hatred of these individual’s does not affect them at all. It only negatively affects you! So you need too forgive them for your own sake!

The next question is, “How do I forgive Him?”

This cannot be accomplished in your own strength. This can only be done through the power of God!

So then, How do you get this Power? Follow these steps:

1. Make a conscious decision to forgive them.

2. Ask God too forgive you for not forgiving them sooner.

3. Ask God too help you too forgive them from your heart. Acknowledging too Him that you are not capable of forgiving them on your own.

4. Ask God too take out of you the pain that you feel in your heart.

5. Ask God too remove the bitterness from your heart. And too replace it with His love.

6. Start too pray for the well being of the person who has wronged you!
Pray for his salvation. Pray that God will bless Him in all things.

7. Repeat steps 1 through 6 as often as necessary.

Forgiving other’s for deep wounds that they have given too you is no easy task! The deeper the pain the harder it is to forgive.
One person wounded me very deeply. I had too repeat steps 1-6 once every 3 or 4 days for about 3 years before I finally got to the point that I could think about the incident without any anger or hatred rising up within me. That’s when I knew that the work of forgiveness was complete. Although every day that I went through those steps, I would feel God’s love and peace flood my body, and truly reach the place where I felt like I had truly forgiven them; none the less, 2 or 3 days later, all of the hatred and pain would come back. At which point, I would repeat steps 1-6. And the effort was well worth it!

And as long as you are doing these things; your salvation is secure! But if you give up, and would rather enjoy the fantasies of revenge instead; you stand in jeopardy of losing your salvation.

The choice is yours.

God bless.

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You forgive by faith, not feelings.
 
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truthfully. IF i was with someone and they decided to go play in another pool. id be out the door faster then a NY Minute.