desperate mom...please help!!!!!!

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bubu2002

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Please Help. I have a 21 year old thats an alcoholic and drug attic. He started to be verbally abusive,didn't want to work, didn't respect the bouse rules or me, and he is romanticly involved with his aunt. She's been putti.g him against me. I threw him.out of the house because I saw that it was causing stress to my other children and honestly I didn't know what else to do. Now he's very angry with me and he very arrogant. He tells his btother he doesn't need me at all. Now I dont know If I did the right thing by throwing him out of the house. please help.......
 
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Donkeyfish07

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Please Help. I have a 21 year old thats an alcoholic and drug attic. He started to be verbally abusive,didn't want to work, didn't respect the bouse rules or me, and he is romanticly involved with his aunt. She's been putti.g him against me. I threw him.out of the house because I saw that it was causing stress to my other children and honestly I didn't know what else to do. Now he's very angry with me and he very arrogant. He tells his btother he doesn't need me at all. Now I dont know If I did the right thing by throwing him out of the house. please help.......
You did the right thing throwing him out. If he's being disrespectful to you and romantically involved with his aunt.....throwing him out is the only sane decision you can make. I'll keep you in my prayers sister.
 

Adrianv125

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My beloved sister, you are reading a message from one who was doing those same things to my poor mother, father, and siblings. Pray to the Lord, ask in faith knowing that He could do greater things, even more abundantly than we can imagine or ask. I cannot understand your pain as well as the pain that I made my mother feel, but all I can say is that God answered her prayers and He rescued me, and He has drawn me to Him to walk to Him. Pray for Him at all times, ask God to reveal to you what He wants to do in your life as well as your family's life. Comfort your children with the word and this message, knowing that God has changed a person like your son. The Lord loves you, and He loves Him also, much more than you do in fact. You must surrender Him to the feet of Jesus, as well as yourself and your household.

Philipians 4:6-7
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

1 John 5:14-15

Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

The Lord loves you all eternally!!!
 

onlinebuddy

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My beloved sister, you are reading a message from one who was doing those same things to my poor mother, father, and siblings. Pray to the Lord, ask in faith knowing that He could do greater things, even more abundantly than we can imagine or ask. I cannot understand your pain as well as the pain that I made my mother feel, but all I can say is that God answered her prayers and He rescued me, and He has drawn me to Him to walk to Him. Pray for Him at all times, ask God to reveal to you what He wants to do in your life as well as your family's life. Comfort your children with the word and this message, knowing that God has changed a person like your son. The Lord loves you, and He loves Him also, much more than you do in fact. You must surrender Him to the feet of Jesus, as well as yourself and your household.

Philipians 4:6-7
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

1 John 5:14-15

Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.

The Lord loves you all eternally!!!
AdrianV125,
I love your testimony. It shows that God answers prayers, and nothing is beyond his power!

bubu2002, Prayers that things will turn around.
 
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sunnygurl

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Dear Mother don't doubt your decision, you need to have faith in the decision you made. As parents sometimes we need to take a stand in regards to the standard we allow in our home. Good on you for making your stand..... in the words of star wars - 'May the (parenting) force be with you'. Your son is an adult who seems to be making lots of foolish decisions that are affecting your home life by doing what you have done you have taken a stand and set a standard not just for this son but also for your other children.
I pray that God along with your son's humbleness may this be the beginning of his journey in seeking God for his redemption.

Be strong mum and keep the faith, God is able. He disciplines those He loves and we as parents need to follow His lead. Remove the guilt it is not from God.

If you need support, look for a Tough Love group in your area that will assist you in standing your ground.

My prayers are with your entire family, with much love.:)
 
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destinyinjesus86

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Hi Bubu,
Am pretty sorry to hear what you have gone through! I really do. I have done some reckless things in my life as well. I am 26 years and running. You did the right thing in telling your son to move out. However, I hope you know your son's whereabouts as to where he lives. As for me, none of my elders even taught me to do right. To me, had bitter feelings against my elders who put me through a lot of hell. So, therefore was acting so rampant. But, however, my heart melted to a Godly man's advice who I saw him really being a christian. Your son needs GODLY COUNSELLING! So, my advice is for you to find a local church pastor and counsel your son. He needs prayers and Godly wisdom. He also needs a Godly friend who would display him the radiating Jesus. If Jesus were here on earth what would he do to such a child? Yes, he would touch him and heal him. So, also prayers as well as soft and soothing advice changes the heart of a man. I have experienced it. And God is no respector of persons. If he did to me, he will do it for your son also. Will keep your son in my prayers
Jesus Bless,
Ruby.
 
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salgirl

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bubu2002, I don't know all of your circumstances, but I also have sort of a step brother (long story) - he is a deviate, and my entire family has disowned him... some of the things he did were inexcusable! I love him, and may be the only one in my family who does - but I cannot associate with him... this is rebuking! You did the right thing... now stand by your decision!
 
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intercessorginger

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In my opinion you did nothing wrong by moving a disrespectful "of age" person out of your home and away from your impressionable younger children. That is your responsibility as a mother so you did the right thing. If he is old enough to abuse drugs and act up, he is old enough to take care of himself. He needs to come to his senses, so the best thing you can do is keep him at arms length and pray for him. God can reach him...when no one else can!
 
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bubu2002

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In my opinion you did nothing wrong by moving a disrespectful "of age" person out of your home and away from your impressionable younger children. That is your responsibility as a mother so you did the right thing. If he is old enough to abuse drugs and act up, he is old enough to take care of himself. He needs to come to his senses, so the best thing you can do is keep him at arms length and pray for him. God can reach him...when no one else can!
Thank you all for your advice,support and especially for your prayers. I really appreciate it. Please continue your prayers for me my family and especially my sonwe really do need them. God Bless you all.
 
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Ugly

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Please Help. I have a 21 year old thats an alcoholic and drug attic. He started to be verbally abusive,didn't want to work, didn't respect the bouse rules or me, and he is romanticly involved with his aunt. She's been putti.g him against me. I threw him.out of the house because I saw that it was causing stress to my other children and honestly I didn't know what else to do. Now he's very angry with me and he very arrogant. He tells his btother he doesn't need me at all. Now I dont know If I did the right thing by throwing him out of the house. please help.......
If you have the option try to find a TV show called Intervention. You will realize your sons behavior is 100% typical of addicts. Nothing you described is out of the ordinary. And typically, if the addict on the show does not choose to receive the treatment to get sober, the next step is for family and close friends to cut contact, kick them out, stop giving them money/food/etc.. stop paying any of their bills. Basically the attempt is to get the addict to hit rock bottom in hopes that will motivate them to see their need to quit. So having him out of the house is the best thing, keeping him in your home means you are enabling his behavior, helping him be an addict.
 
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SLG26

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I know is hard to kick out a love one especially when they are going threw so much trouble in confuse-.all you can do is give him up to the lord to do changes in his life the lord is the only one who could make him a better person. Also you need to ask the lord to help the aunt as well.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Been there done that. If animals can be taught not to poo where they live, so can people. It's tough love. Don't be a codependent.
 
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No! No! No!

I beg of you, do not listen to any of these people. Your problem is that your having difficulties getting along with your son, who also has problems of his own. Everyone here is telling you that you should let him go to fend for himself. Tell me this, do you want to push your son out of your life because he's not minding you, or do you want to help him fix his problems so you can breath easy that he's on a better path?

Hear me out. If you love your son, you will do everything in your power to help him, not disown him. I'm not a psychologist, so the advice I'm about to give may very well not work, but I can tell you that everyone else here is giving the worst possible advice. DON'T DISOWN YOUR SON.

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First things first, you need to figure out why you and your son aren't getting along. Obviously the drugs and alcohol are adding onto the stress, but I'm willing to bet there are other underlying problems.

You said your son told his brother that he doesn't need you at all. Talk to the brother and see if you can learn anything else about your son and what else might have him upset. Think about some of the arguments you have had and ask yourself how they were started.

It's probably safe to assume that your son might be depressed. Often, parents who try to help their children by scolding them will often discourage their children from taking up more responsibilities. At the age of 21, he may feel like you're treating him too much like a child. I don't know what the problem is, but consider the possibility that your efforts to help him may have come off the wrong way to him.

He could be ashamed of his lifestyle, and when you tell him he needs to get a job, you make him feel worse. Maybe he feels like there are other issues in his life he wants to fix and he feels like you're only getting in the way.

Whether your son lives in the same house as you, or not, you MUST work with him. Do NOT disown him. Do NOT let him hit rock bottom and hope he is able to pick himself back up. Everyone else here believes you should let him suffer for his own actions, but he's your son. Children aren't supposed to work for their parents, parents are supposed to work for their children.

Please, don't give up on him. Talk to him like an adult, but try to sympathize with him like he's a child who needs their parent. You don't have to give into his every whim. Before you can fix his alcoholism problem, or his drug problem, you need to fix your relationship with him. This might mean you have to let him think he's right when he's not. When the two of you are on good terms, it's then you can talk to him about his problems (but don't badger him about them, try to be understanding).
 
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hattiebod

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'Before you can fix his alcoholism problem, or his drug problem...'
There is only one person who can fix his problems...him. By turning him out of her home, she is saying enough is enough. I am sure there has been a long and terrible road this family has been on before they got to this stage. By asking him to leave,telling him, she is not enabling and condoning his behaviour. It does not mean she will no longer have contact with him, perhaps she will but if he is sleeping with her sister? enough!! Sadly many people often see that the problems do not belong to the person, to the addict, not their responsibility. Perhaps there are issues between the family members but that does not mean one automatically becomes an alcoholic or drug addict. It will never be sorted out as long as he is taking drink & drugs...and unless He wants to address them. The best thing this mother can do is remove herself from this situation, by asking him to leave hopefully her son will then recieve the help and support he needs unfettered by the high levels of unavoidable emotion inherent within the family. And yes, maybe things will have to get a lot worse before they get better for this young man, that is often the way with addictions but ultimately this is his responsibility. Not the mothers now. All she can do is pray for him and love him but she may need to do the latter from afar for now. God Bless, <><
 
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J-Kay

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My heartfelt prayers go out to you. I know this is the most difficult decision for you.
My husband and I spent many hours seeking the Lord about what to do when our adult
daughter had same addiction. She did respect us, never asked to come home because
she knew we did not live that life style. However, she did serve 2 treatments in rehab
and we did allow her to come home because she was not using or drinking. When she was
able, she left and found work and her own apt. When she would be homeless, she always
managed to find a place to stay. Our heart was broken for her through her relapse, but
she managed to find a place of her own and work. We did have to help her on occasion
and she never asked, but let us know she needed money for a month rent to hold her apt.
or she wold let us know when she needed a deposit for a new place. As time went on and
she moved in with someone, we were always taking her necessities, because she had no
job. But we were blessed because she loved us, she was so grateful for our concerns. Do
you think it was easy to leave your adult child behind and drive off and see her waving
good-bye ? No, it was the most difficult thing we had to do. She was beautiful and popular.
But she just could not beat the demon of alcohol. However, where she lived she was not
able to get it, so she was not drinking all the time. She loved God, she tried so hard to live
a clean life, but we had to let her and God work it out. My husband and I prayed to show
us what He would have us do ..... We were never told to bring her home. I prayed for her
and we kept in touch. Will you feel guilty ? Yes, probably. Does God want you to live with
this type of abuse in your home ? Only He can give you that answer. I can only share what
He had us do with our daughter. Every situation is different. Please keep praying for your son.
I will keep you in prayer. If you need more information about her life, please feel free to private
message me. God bless you and may your prayers be answered in the way best for your son
and for you.
 
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hattiebod

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No! No! No!

I beg of you, do not listen to any of these people. Your problem is that your having difficulties getting along with your son, who also has problems of his own. Everyone here is telling you that you should let him go to fend for himself. Tell me this, do you want to push your son out of your life because he's not minding you, or do you want to help him fix his problems so you can breath easy that he's on a better path?

Hear me out. If you love your son, you will do everything in your power to help him, not disown him. I'm not a psychologist, so the advice I'm about to give may very well not work, but I can tell you that everyone else here is giving the worst possible advice. DON'T DISOWN YOUR SON.

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First things first, you need to figure out why you and your son aren't getting along. Obviously the drugs and alcohol are adding onto the stress, but I'm willing to bet there are other underlying problems.

You said your son told his brother that he doesn't need you at all. Talk to the brother and see if you can learn anything else about your son and what else might have him upset. Think about some of the arguments you have had and ask yourself how they were started.

It's probably safe to assume that your son might be depressed. Often, parents who try to help their children by scolding them will often discourage their children from taking up more responsibilities. At the age of 21, he may feel like you're treating him too much like a child. I don't know what the problem is, but consider the possibility that your efforts to help him may have come off the wrong way to him.

He could be ashamed of his lifestyle, and when you tell him he needs to get a job, you make him feel worse. Maybe he feels like there are other issues in his life he wants to fix and he feels like you're only getting in the way.

Whether your son lives in the same house as you, or not, you MUST work with him. Do NOT disown him. Do NOT let him hit rock bottom and hope he is able to pick himself back up. Everyone else here believes you should let him suffer for his own actions, but he's your son. Children aren't supposed to work for their parents, parents are supposed to work for their children.

Please, don't give up on him. Talk to him like an adult, but try to sympathize with him like he's a child who needs their parent. You don't have to give into his every whim. Before you can fix his alcoholism problem, or his drug problem, you need to fix your relationship with him. This might mean you have to let him think he's right when he's not. When the two of you are on good terms, it's then you can talk to him about his problems (but don't badger him about them, try to be understanding).
He could be ashamed of his lifestyle, and when you tell him he needs to get a job, you make him feel worse.....I hope he is ashamed of his lifestyle...only when he sees the wrong in it, will he turn away from it. I did not 'quote' but post 14 is in response to this post of your too. God Bless, <><
 
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He could be ashamed of his lifestyle, and when you tell him he needs to get a job, you make him feel worse.....I hope he is ashamed of his lifestyle...only when he sees the wrong in it, will he turn away from it. I did not 'quote' but post 14 is in response to this post of your too. God Bless, <><
Just because he should be ashamed doesn't mean you should make him feel that way. He's addicted to drugs and alcohol, I'm sure he's already ashamed! Telling him that he should be ashamed of himself can easily make him feel more useless and more hopeless, and it can make it harder for him to fix his problems. Sometimes, you need to refrain from making people feel bad if you want them to regain confidence in themselves and fix their problems.

This guy should be ashamed, but the goal isn't to be right, it's to help him regain his footing and to lead a healthy life both himself and his mother can be proud of.
 

homwardbound

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Please Help. I have a 21 year old thats an alcoholic and drug attic. He started to be verbally abusive,didn't want to work, didn't respect the bouse rules or me, and he is romanticly involved with his aunt. She's been putti.g him against me. I threw him.out of the house because I saw that it was causing stress to my other children and honestly I didn't know what else to do. Now he's very angry with me and he very arrogant. He tells his btother he doesn't need me at all. Now I dont know If I did the right thing by throwing him out of the house. please help.......
Even though it is hard you did the right thing, he has to figure it out on his own trust God to work this out in him andyuoas well. I am glad you are not being an enabler as a lot of people are out of worry
I had a person in our family that was enabled by letting her get away with all sorts of bad behavior. But after she was finally kicked out and not babied anymore she had to grow up and did eventually do exactly this
Kind of like a bird when it has little ones when it is time the Mother just kicks the little bird out and either that little bird flies or dies, there is no thought from Mom at all it does what it knows to do.
You did the right thing now please rest and trust and accept wahtever reaction this son has and don't argue with him, you are right in what you did period
 
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hattiebod

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Please Help. I have a 21 year old thats an alcoholic and drug attic. He started to be verbally abusive,didn't want to work, didn't respect the bouse rules or me, and he is romanticly involved with his aunt. She's been putti.g him against me. I threw him.out of the house because I saw that it was causing stress to my other children and honestly I didn't know what else to do. Now he's very angry with me and he very arrogant. He tells his btother he doesn't need me at all. Now I dont know If I did the right thing by throwing him out of the house. please help.......
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Often a mothers love can be shown so deeply, in just such an act as yours. You have asked him to leave, it is so hard to do that, but by your act, an act of love, one day your son may be saved from his addictions...I pray that will be true. God Bless you. <><
 
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You know what Hattiebod, you're right. The only thing I disagree with is how you believe the mother should remove herself completely. Kicking her son out of the house probably wasn't a bad thing, and she might have to leave him be for a while. But she should try to make amends and find solutions to his problems. Obviously she shouldn't neglect her own children, and at this point in time, they should come first.

But OP needs to try and figure out where things went wrong and she at least needs to figure out what is bothering her son and how she can help. I know it's not simple, but it's better than "Kick him out and let him be and hope he gets better." In ways, there's always a level of letting your children be and hoping they do fine, but sometimes children need their parent's support, they need their parents to make them feel like they have the strength to overcome their problems.

I know I sound like I support the whole "helicopter" parent ordeal, I don't. I just believe family should always try to make amends and help one another when possible. I wouldn't be surprised if OP messed up along the lines with her parenting and if that's the crux of the issue.