Ever OK to hit spouse?

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ChristopherMichael

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Is it ever all right for you to hit your spouse? Maybe not even hitting, but just manhandle them against their will, or angrily grabbing at them? Like if you were to push them down, or angrily slap something from their hands, or shove them out of your way?

What if your spouse has been yelling at you a lot or trying to get you riled up and angry. Does this change it at all? What if they even know you loose your temper and get physical, and just want to make you feel inferior at being unable to control your emotions?

Now, I know a lot of you women out there are probably pretty upset or irked at this point, since it sounds like I'm trying to justify a man getting angry and physical with his wife. Seems like it should be just out of the question, not even able to be debated, right?

Now reread the question, and notice the gender-neutral terms. What if it's a woman, and she's getting physical (not in a good way) with her male spouse. I can't tell you how often I see women angrily pushing and hitting their husbands, both in homes, and in public. Makes me sick!

What are your thoughts?

- Topher
 
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carpetmanswife

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Its wrong no matter who does it...male OR female....
 
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Raeshelle

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I agree it is wrong no matter if it was a man or a woman doing the hitting.
 
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Kyra

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Is it wrong for a woman to hit a man? Yes.
Is it wrong for a man to hit a woman? Yes.

It's also wrong for someone to provoke another. Let me ask you Christopher these two questions:
1.)Is it wrong for a person being abused to continue in the relationship and allow the abuse?

2.) If a person knows they have a weakness towards violence, is it wrong for he/she to continue in a relationship when he/she knows that weakness will be manipulated?

 
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carpetmanswife

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and ya know what..i feel that " they made me do it" they know how i am " line ...is a load of ... bull...its an excuse..if ya gotta hit em..u better off leavin em .. PERIOD!!

lol .. sorry had to get that off my chest
 
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ChristopherMichael

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1.)Is it wrong for a person being abused to continue in the relationship and allow the abuse?
Yes, it is wrong for the person to allow the relationship to continue as is. They are doing both themselves and the other person (and any children) a profound disservice. This does not mean that they should divorce, however, if they are married. Divorce should only occur during chronic cases of sexual infidelity.

In cases of abuse, I would advise separation, first off. If the spouse is stalking and aggressive, then by all means involve the police and or get a restraining order. If possible, try for counseling. So long as the abuser doesn't give up on the relationship and go after some other person, you're obligated to try to salvage it. For your sake, your spouses, your childrens', and as a testimony to others of the value you place on the sanctity of marriage.

2.) If a person knows they have a weakness towards violence, is it wrong for he/she to continue in a relationship when he/she knows that weakness will be manipulated?[/quote]

Yes, it is likewise wrong for the abuser to continue in such a relationship, as is. I would advise them to seek counseling. If they are married, I would advise separation as well. Again, I don't think there are biblical grounds for divorce here.

Good questions Kyra.

- Topher
 
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buckeyegirl700

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I believe it is wrong for anyone to put their hands on another person. It does not matter whether it is a man or a woman. It is unacceptable to put your hands on someone else, unless a person is being attacked then they have a right to defend themselves.
 
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ChristopherMichael

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To everyone who replied above that it's equally wrong for both men and women to hit one another;

Do you have the same reaction when a man hits a woman, as when a woman hits a man? If you see a man in a mall hit his wife, what do you do? What about when a woman slaps a guy in a bar? Is it the same?

Not trying to badger you all with questions here. I just think that a lot of people, myself included, are perfectly fine with a woman in a bar slapping a guy who makes a bad pass at her, but would beat the crap out of a guy who slaps his wife in a mall. When you think about it, the disparity kind of seems wrong.

- Topher
 
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Harley_Angel

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The way I see it, it's wrong no matter who does it. But who is it more wrong for? It's equal, I think. If a woman feels like hitting a man, she can take a hit from a man. If a man hits a woman, he better be prepared to be kicked.
 
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Sharp

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Chris I think voilence and hitting is wrong, but I think 'manhandling against their own will' as you put it is justified sometimes. Sometimes people act irrationally and are about to do something ridiculous, and need to be prevented from doing that.
 
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_Elizabeth_

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It is NEVER right to be violent with anyone. If you or your children are in danger it is acceptable to use self defense. If you feel you need to dominate and control your spouse, you both need therapy! This is domestic violence and abuse. There are laws about this and they are there for a reason. No one should be forced to serve or comply with another person, idea, or situation. Even God gives us a choice to obey and believe in him. Once again, it is absolutely unacceptable to abuse someone.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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violence never solved anything... if people cant discuss using words, they need to ask for help somewhere.

so: no women hitting men, no men hitting women. (and DEFINITELY no adults hitting children. IE spanking). Violence breeds violence, good intent or bad alike
 
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Leilaii425

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Its more fun to do the hitting than to be hit.
 
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Jezreel

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Being a woman and being truthful, I knew there were times when I pushed my husband's buttons. That was many years ago and I suddenly realized that I was trying to get his attention because he was not loving me in the Lord. He did not realize that but in time, he realized that he was selfish and used his temper to control and put fear in me. I was not mature in the Lord at that time of course and did not have the wisdom like I do now. I understand that women, with their screaming and yelling and nagging can drive a man crazy and cause them to stumble. Still, the man being the head of the family, a man should not be bitter against his wife lest his prayers be hindered and they are to give honor to the weaker vessel.
When my husband was in a horrible carwreck in 1977 where his brother was killed and he had a bad head injury, it left him with scars that his angry sudden outbursts became very dangerous for me and I was beaten so badly one time I had to play dead for him to stop because he said he was going to kill me. My children will never forget climbing out the bedroom windows and going across the street to call the police on their father. That time, I had said nothing and was sleeping only to wake up and see him standing over me telling me he was going to kill me. It took years for the damage to heal. When he quit the physical abuse, the emmotional and verbal abuse continued, even affecting our two oldest daughters who were called horrible names etc. If it was not for God and his mercy, our children would have not turned out to be Christians right now. We did explain to them that we were wrong and apologized to them when we made mistakes.We did not play the game of being one way at home and another way at church giving the impression that we were good Christians. I made it well known to everybody that our marriage was volotile. I used to get a couple pastors who counciled me and told me that if I was submissive, my husband would not do what he did to me!! When a pastor will not protect the weak and correct a violent angry man with the world of God and tell him to repent, that can mean that person also is abusive himself. Men will cover for one another. Even when they knew that the abuse was also being targeted at my children, they did not intervene. Why should I have to go to the worldly system of the law when the body of Christ is supposed to be there to correct? Anyhow, today, it is much better. I am recognizing that pastors are being educated about spousal abuse and young women today have more of a support system in the church than us old gals did many years ago.
Confess your faults one to another so you can be healed and pray for wisdom that the Lord will give you a soft answer to speak to your wife when things get a bit out of control. When she sees your change, it will really affect her! NO KIDDING! I had also quit trying to change my husband and I concentrated on my own faults. When my husband said something very mean to me that really hurt me, I was able to go to the Lord and ask him to "please forgive my husband and please do not allow his anger and sin to hinder his prayers". Instead of responding in anger back, I am able to keep my mouth shut unless God gives me the words he wants me to speak to him.God has changed me so much that I never drag up the past and throw it in his face and I am able to forgive and not hold a grudge. I used to be so mouthy and had to have the last word. No more of that. If we can get our pride out of the way and wanting to have our own way and just hungering to please God, he will get ahold of your spouse. He truly will. God is not a liar. When the man gets in right standing with God, especially in these dark days, he is able to do abundantly and exceedingly above all you ask or think according to the power that works in you. He will honor your faith in your wanting to change yourself instead of your spouse. I wish I had that revelation when I was 24!! It is a shame that we have to suffer and learn by our mistakes and wait until we get older to achieve the wisdom of God. The good news is that our grown children learned by seeing and remembering what mistakes we made, they were also blessed by the word of God that we taught them that has given them profound discernment for young adults their age. Playing church can really turn kids off because they are smart enough to see right through it. Their witnessing the miraculous healing and change in our marriage also built their faith that God is real. We parents don't have to do the right thing all the time for God to be glorified. He will use our mistakes and when he does the transforming, it is a real and true testimony. We should all pray for one another about that too. Your wife and you should put it on the prayer request and the more that pray the better. I do pray for you that God would totally bless your heart and mind and put peace upon you to even forgive yourself when you stumble and I pray that your wife will not want to answer back. I pray that when you both speak mean to one another, that, each of you in your heart will be able to feel the hurt that you have inflicted upon the other instead of receiving any fleshly gratification in speaking in a manner that is not glorifying God. Just remember, would you speak to your boss the way that you speak to your wife, or, vice versa? When we get a revelation that we at times can be big bullies, God can use that to shame us. May God heal and bless your marriage.
 
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It's ok to hit them if they are delusional and need hitting to protect their or your life. Or if they need hitting with a wooden stick or something to break a contact with an electrical source.
 
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ChristopherMichael

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It's ok to hit them if they are delusional and need hitting to protect their or your life. Or if they need hitting with a wooden stick or something to break a contact with an electrical source.
I LOLd at this.
 
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ChristopherMichael

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Jezreel:

You have an amazing story! It is awesome to see what God has done in your marriage!

- Topher
 
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Jezreel

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One thing I forgot to mention is never preach about a wife needing to submit to her husband as a tool or weapon to put her down because it makes a gal really angry!! My husband used to put his fist in my face and ask me, "are you going to submit"? When a man uses scripture against her, it makes it worse. We should just give one another scripture that builds up and edifies and enourages one another.
 
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Harley_Angel

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Wow Jezreel, I would have looked him straight in the eye and asked, "Would Jesus hit his church?"
 
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collective

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only in self defence