Dangers of Feminism

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Uber-liberals and radical secular feminists don't like it when men come together to talk about how to level the playing field. They attack.

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I briefly rad about the "SCUM manifiesto" and something about Valerie Solanas... A sad thing OUR common troubles had something related to abused children, male sex (though women abuse is seldom reported: I had my own story unpublished). In the long run, all is dued to sex, unloving people rearing children + sin over sins.

It´s sad! But right should be equalized, with no special treatment, I guess: God is the ONE to sort things out... Soon I hope to see what that conference would add AS A SOLUTION.
 
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Feminism has basically emasculated men. I cannot believe how many men now want to stay home while the wife works, or women want to have a career and stay single, people see no reason to raise children because they are seen as expensive and an inconvenience. I remember being a child in the 50-60's and nearly every mom on the block stayed home. Even if they weren't all Christians it was a much better world for being done according to the Word.
 
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I'm curious to see how all of you will react to this. I knew a "pastor" who was just starting out trying to start his own church. He did not like a certain church for having a lady pastor lead it. I guess he believed it was wrong. This same man told me (and God has called me to music ministry) that I sound terrible singing soprano and that I should not do it, and used people who have heard me sing before (who were NOT present at the time) to back him up when those people never said anything about it to me. When I said, very humbly eyes cast to the ground "I don't think I sound that bad" he said "oh really? Then I'll record you sometime." I was very hurt and insulted, and told him what God had told me before: that God had sent me the proper teachers, and that my voice teacher who I believe is highly qualified told me that I am a soprano and that I do have a good voice. I was not prideful, I was defending myself from an unwarranted attack intended to degrade and bring me down to stop my pursuing of the calling God has given me.

The latter part of that paragraph was to give you an example of what that man could be like. So what do you think of ladies who are called to lead people, whether through being a pastor of a church, a minister, an evangelist, a missionary, or even the lead singer of a band? What is your take on women leading people?

I also wanted to include this link, for the abuse part of this thread:

Some Biblical Thoughts on Physical, Sexual, and Verbal Abuse | Christians for Biblical Equality (CBE)


Sorry for being slightly off topic. God Bless!
 
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DancingForJesus said:
I'm curious to see how all of you will react to this. I knew a "pastor" who was just starting out trying to start his own church. He did not like a certain church for having a lady pastor lead it. I guess he believed it was wrong. This same man told me (and God has called me to music ministry) that I sound terrible singing soprano and that I should not do it, and used people who have heard me sing before (who were NOT present at the time) to back him up when those people never said anything about it to me. When I said, very humbly eyes cast to the ground "I don't think I sound that bad" he said "oh really? Then I'll record you sometime." I was very hurt and insulted, and told him what God had told me before: that God had sent me the proper teachers, and that my voice teacher who I believe is highly qualified told me that I am a soprano and that I do have a good voice. I was not prideful, I was defending myself from an unwarranted attack intended to degrade and bring me down to stop my pursuing of the calling God has given me.

The latter part of that paragraph was to give you an example of what that man could be like. So what do you think of ladies who are called to lead people, whether through being a pastor of a church, a minister, an evangelist, a missionary, or even the lead singer of a band? What is your take on women leading people?

I also wanted to include this link, for the abuse part of this thread:

Some Biblical Thoughts on Physical, Sexual, and Verbal Abuse | Christians for Biblical Equality (CBE)


Sorry for being slightly off topic. God Bless!
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I don't have a problem with women leading men except at the pulpit? Why? because God isn't in favor of it.
 
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Can you give scriptural evidence of this?
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Nothing personal, why can't you find the info yourself? If I have a problem with someone's answer, I am usually successful in researching the info myself. There are incredible sources of info on the subject matter, right here on CC. Do the research.
 
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But did you watch the video and catch what Karen's talk was about? She clearly showed that despite the legitimate historical need to assert fairness and rights for women; the feminist movement became deeply maligned with very bad intent early on.

The Seneca Falls Convention and the Declaration of Sentiments reveal that the early feminism movement wasn't so much about ensuring fairness for women as it was a blatant vilification of all men... a characterization and view that undergirds and guides the feminist movement today.

She shows that current fiscally expensive sweeping government policy is being based on sets of incorrect unfalsifiable feminist assertions which contradict scholarly studies and statistical analysis and have brought about very undesirable consequences to Western societies (for example, the rapid decay and decline of families and marriage and the negative societal results that are following, etc...).
 
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AgeofKnowledge said:
But did you watch the video and catch what Karen's talk was about? She clearly showed that despite the legitimate historical need to assert fairness and rights for women; the feminist movement became deeply maligned with very bad intent early on.

The Seneca Falls Convention and the Declaration of Sentiments reveal that the early feminism movement wasn't so much about ensuring fairness for women as it was a blatant vilification of all men... a characterization and view that undergirds and guides the feminist movement today.

She shows that current fiscally expensive sweeping government policy is being based on sets of incorrect unfalsifiable feminist assertions which contradict scholarly studies and statistical analysis and have brought about very undesirable consequences to Western societies (for example, the rapid decay and decline of families and marriage and the negative societal results that are following, etc...).
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The feminist agenda is a very evil one and I watched its wickedness from Day 1. While a small percentage of women benefitted from the agenda, the majority of women are catching "hell" from it. And yet, they want to blame men for their downfall instead of the feminist groups. The majority of American women are "tainted" in their moral obligations in relationships. Again, not all American women. That's why I prefer foreign women with no connections with the feminist movement. Even though many American women will claim not to be feminists, the majority of them are supporters of the agenda. That's not good.
 
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It's obviously not good for men, women, or children to teach and practice hatred of men and legislate policy around that hatred.

I find it ironic that liberal groups like the SPLC will place in their registry moral, law abiding, Christian organizations that support the traditional family on principle sans-hatred along side the KKK, Nazis, and skinheads calling them "hate groups" but will completely ignore liberal movements like radical liberal feminism which have all the hallmarks of a real hate group.

Their hypocrisy is utterly astounding.


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Even though many American women will claim not to be feminists, the majority of them are supporters of the agenda. That's not good.
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biscuit said:
I don't have a problem with women leading men except at the pulpit? Why? because God isn't in favor of it.
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Where does the Bible teach that New Testament churches must have pulpits, that church leadership (elders/bishops) have anything to do with pulpits, or that the elders/bishops are the only ones who minister behind a pulpit?
 
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biscuit said:
The feminist agenda is a very evil one and I watched its wickedness from Day 1. While a small percentage of women benefitted from the agenda, the majority of women are catching "hell" from it. And yet, they want to blame men for their downfall instead of the feminist groups. The majority of American women are "tainted" in their moral obligations in relationships. Again, not all American women. That's why I prefer foreign women with no connections with the feminist movement. Even though many American women will claim not to be feminists, the majority of them are supporters of the agenda. That's not good.
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When you say you prefer foreign women, do you mean you want to marry one, or you just prefer to spend time around them.

I was in living in Asia when I met my wife. Her culture isn't feminist, but women are women, and if you are the type who doesn't want to spend a lot of time around women, well Asian woman are women, too.

There are advantages to marrying a woman from a more 'traditional' culture not contaminated much with feminist thought and some of the other philosophies, but there are also cultural issues to overcome. I spent a long time in her country, and I don't think the cultural differences caused any more difficulty than I'd have with a woman from my own country. Sometimes she doesn't get some of my jokes, but that's the biggest thing.
 
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I think we have to make the distinction between feminism as it was intended to be back in the days of the first Suffragists, and the way it became under the hijacking by the Suffragettes. The latter is more often the 'feminism' we see today, but truthfully, the first 'feminists' didn't call themselves feminists - and they weren't just women. The term 'feminist' was coined by a misogynistic male reporter in response to the equal rights movement, and the people who backed the movement were men and women of all kinds of faiths, creeds and lifestyles. You could call them a group of collective equal rights advocates.

A lot of them were humanists, both genders, advocating equal legal rights between men and women - the right to divorce, the right to fair wages, to work, to equal pay and whatever other legal rights women didn't have. The issue came when Panckhurst and the Suffragettes turned nasty and violent. Their antics were the most reported and the 'feminist' ideology arose, basically misandry dressed up as equal rights advocacy.

So, it's important for us to make that distinction. Equal rights advocacy has all but won its cause in American and European societies - that is, equal rights for men and women. But the 'feminist', Panckhurst-esque ideology of misandry and extremism is the ideology that sticks in peoples' minds, and it's unfortunately the kind of 'feminism' many young women back.

The first idea, equal legal rights, is admirable and it is something that I wholly back, but that does not make me a feminist, it makes me an equal rights advocate. The latter idea, misandry and degradation of societal constructs, is something I wholly oppose as I oppose anything tailored to one-upping another party at the expense of equality itself.

Put shortly, modern radical feminism is NOT what the original equal rights advocates believed in.
 
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