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I can't watch the video, I have dial up, but I've seen that, and heard that song. So sad, but I love it...how it speaks out...also look up a song called Alyssa Lies by Jason Michael Carroll. It has so much meaning...anyhow, I don't understand how anyone can abuse a child either....I assume it's because they aren't a Christian, which is no excuse, and does no justice at all....I can't stand people who do such things...I took a stand in the middle of Walmart one day....
I saw a mother hit her child, on the bottom., this child was between 1-2 maybe 3 years old if that...and she hit him hard, because he was crying...something was bothering him...anyways, I saw it, and I was walking just a tad ahead of my grandmother...I turned around, and asked her ''did you see that?'' she said no what, I said ''that woman, she just hit that baby so hard he fell on the floor, then she yanked him up by his little arm, if the wrong person saw that, they might report her and she could lose her children''.
I had no idea, but her husband was on the other side of another isle and heard me...he went over there and said ''did you hear what that girl said?'' she said no, and asked what, so he told her...I looked and said to him,''excuse me, i wasn't talking to you, I was talking to my grandmother''. He said ''well you need to keep your mouth shut and mind your own business''(only he cussed me a good bit). I said well, I'm sorry sir, but when I see something like that, I can't just not say anything.
He went on and on, and I just walked away...he came towards me, then acted as if he were going to swing at me then attack me physically. He bucked up and stepped forwards towards me. He said ''how would you like it if I laid you out in this floor right now?'' I got so upset, and I said, ''no but I tell you what, how would you like it if I or someone else laid you out on the floor? How would you like it if you were that little, and someone, especially so much bigger than you, your parent at that, hit you so hard, and it made you fall to the floor?'' He kept running his mouth, and again bucked up to me, stepping forward, acting like he was going to do something.
I stepped forward, and bucked up somewhat myself...I never intended on doing anything, but I would defend myself. He backed off, he just though well I'm a man she'll back down, but I didn't. That baby looked as if to say thank you...and I just walked off, and said to my grandmother, ''you know, if people would get in church, get saved, pray, read their Bible, and everything else, they wouldn't be like that''. I took a stand for that baby, stopped the abuse for a moment at least, and most of all took a stand for God!
Now I'm not bragging, and I'm not saying go looking for things like that haha...I'm just saying, if you face something like that...don't be scared, give someone hope and courage to come forward and stand against it, and get the help to get out if they can.
I saw a mother hit her child, on the bottom., this child was between 1-2 maybe 3 years old if that...and she hit him hard, because he was crying...something was bothering him...anyways, I saw it, and I was walking just a tad ahead of my grandmother...I turned around, and asked her ''did you see that?'' she said no what, I said ''that woman, she just hit that baby so hard he fell on the floor, then she yanked him up by his little arm, if the wrong person saw that, they might report her and she could lose her children''.
I had no idea, but her husband was on the other side of another isle and heard me...he went over there and said ''did you hear what that girl said?'' she said no, and asked what, so he told her...I looked and said to him,''excuse me, i wasn't talking to you, I was talking to my grandmother''. He said ''well you need to keep your mouth shut and mind your own business''(only he cussed me a good bit). I said well, I'm sorry sir, but when I see something like that, I can't just not say anything.
He went on and on, and I just walked away...he came towards me, then acted as if he were going to swing at me then attack me physically. He bucked up and stepped forwards towards me. He said ''how would you like it if I laid you out in this floor right now?'' I got so upset, and I said, ''no but I tell you what, how would you like it if I or someone else laid you out on the floor? How would you like it if you were that little, and someone, especially so much bigger than you, your parent at that, hit you so hard, and it made you fall to the floor?'' He kept running his mouth, and again bucked up to me, stepping forward, acting like he was going to do something.
I stepped forward, and bucked up somewhat myself...I never intended on doing anything, but I would defend myself. He backed off, he just though well I'm a man she'll back down, but I didn't. That baby looked as if to say thank you...and I just walked off, and said to my grandmother, ''you know, if people would get in church, get saved, pray, read their Bible, and everything else, they wouldn't be like that''. I took a stand for that baby, stopped the abuse for a moment at least, and most of all took a stand for God!
Now I'm not bragging, and I'm not saying go looking for things like that haha...I'm just saying, if you face something like that...don't be scared, give someone hope and courage to come forward and stand against it, and get the help to get out if they can.
K
Thats an assumption I wish to correct. Sadly, domestic and child abuse DOES happen within a church environment. Which is even worse because either people are aware of it and stick it under the carpet like a shameful secret (esp if the abuser is an elder or pastor) or they have no idea because the abuser is so good at lying and putting on a fake image of 'christian perfection.'
I was abused by my step father, and while I was the only one in my family to have a noticeable relationship with Jesus, my step father enjoyed prancing around, going to church, reading his bible in front of people in public and giving people the impression he was an awesome dad. He had no issues with taking me to church (as a way of watching me and having a level of control over me) then going home and beating me for not doing something right and telling me that singing loudly or raising my hands showed a lack of decorum. when I left home and made it public what he had done to me - no one believed me - especially not anyone from my church. when they finally came around they wanted to keep it hush hush because they were worried their diocese would find out they preferred the opinion of an abuser over a victim.
Abuse is a complicated and many faceted area is society that Satan relies on as it always runs in cycles. I commend you for what you did and for your bravery in sticking up for that child. I only hope that the child wasnt hurt even more for your actions in publically embarressing their parents. But parents need to know that society does not accept that kind of behaviour towards children. A word of warning and advice though. I would refrain from accusing parents that you only randomly see in supermarkets. You dont know their circumstances surrounding them or the child and good parents can slip up occaisionally because they were tired or stressed. This doesnt condone it but, often a parent knows when they make such mistakes and try their best to improve. On the other hand, if you know of a family and see them frequently enough to suspect abuse is occuring, then definitely do something. Often its a domestic situation as well which will be harder, if the woman is battered and under the control of her abuser and is having her children used against her as blackmail. If that is the case, you need to counsel her as a friend and convince her to have her children taken out of that environment into safety so that she can deal with it appropriately without worrying about harm comming to children.
I was abused by my step father, and while I was the only one in my family to have a noticeable relationship with Jesus, my step father enjoyed prancing around, going to church, reading his bible in front of people in public and giving people the impression he was an awesome dad. He had no issues with taking me to church (as a way of watching me and having a level of control over me) then going home and beating me for not doing something right and telling me that singing loudly or raising my hands showed a lack of decorum. when I left home and made it public what he had done to me - no one believed me - especially not anyone from my church. when they finally came around they wanted to keep it hush hush because they were worried their diocese would find out they preferred the opinion of an abuser over a victim.
Abuse is a complicated and many faceted area is society that Satan relies on as it always runs in cycles. I commend you for what you did and for your bravery in sticking up for that child. I only hope that the child wasnt hurt even more for your actions in publically embarressing their parents. But parents need to know that society does not accept that kind of behaviour towards children. A word of warning and advice though. I would refrain from accusing parents that you only randomly see in supermarkets. You dont know their circumstances surrounding them or the child and good parents can slip up occaisionally because they were tired or stressed. This doesnt condone it but, often a parent knows when they make such mistakes and try their best to improve. On the other hand, if you know of a family and see them frequently enough to suspect abuse is occuring, then definitely do something. Often its a domestic situation as well which will be harder, if the woman is battered and under the control of her abuser and is having her children used against her as blackmail. If that is the case, you need to counsel her as a friend and convince her to have her children taken out of that environment into safety so that she can deal with it appropriately without worrying about harm comming to children.
Well, generally if it does happen within the church, the person isn't saved, or if they are, they're not living right. I'm sure there's those that are saved and somewhat living right, but they aren't totally if they're abusive. There's no excuse for abuse weather it be to a baby, child, teen, adult, or elderly. All you can do is pray for those people...they're sick, twisted, confused people...not saying your step-father was...well not exactly...I mean something was wrong for him to be that way...but most have serious issues, anger a main thing, and so they take it out on the innocent. I'm sorry you went through things, I still stand by what I say though. They either aren't a Christian, or are one, but aren't living right. If you are, you wouldn't do things like that.
D
Thank you LORD GOD because it pisses me off too...%$$#$%. You just don't know what I think should happen to people like that. And probably don't want to know. Just protect your child and love what GOD blessed you with.... Because it seems like you look at the news there's some sick person GOD forbid it be the parents doing something with some kid...! In GOD we have to trust.
T
On the subject of abuse. Since "Christians" think its their duty to spank their kids, what's the difference between spanking and abuse? I take this subject strongly because my parents would spank me in the name of Christ leaving bruises and me being scared and i'm scared of them to this day. I am highly opposed to spanking kids. I think its cruel and unusual punishment for a child.
B
Child abuse is a sad thing. I believe that a person tends to defy their conscience forsaking it and they get bitter inside. That plus all the hell this world has to bring twists the soul out of shape.
Being disobedient to God always sets a person ill at ease inside. They get ashamed pride and ego takes a hold of them as well. People who do not no how to take their problems to God on an hourly basis let things swelter up inside. They get angered and explode, sometimes this out burst is managed almost under control.
I firmly believe that if a person sees the other in the above fashions he should confront them about it, best if they are cooled off first. It might make them mad at you but If done in a kind way, they at times will attempt to stop their misconduct. I seen my 36 year old daughter go thru this and told her she had to attempt to do somthing about it. She was a church goer at the time as well.
Satan has the power to mess with minds in ways to really set us off. He will work on a child, christian or not and on the parent or gaurdian trying his best to set the trap inorder to ruin lives. He comes to steal to kill and destroy. He has been at it for thousands of years so it is hard to control. It does take love and kindness to help one thru it, and that with God. It took my daughter over a year to get it somewhat under control.
Again the hurt person is the one that hurts others. Therefore they need help and forgiven as well. Grudges and unfrogiveness brings on mush abuse.
With Jesus Love conquers all.
Being disobedient to God always sets a person ill at ease inside. They get ashamed pride and ego takes a hold of them as well. People who do not no how to take their problems to God on an hourly basis let things swelter up inside. They get angered and explode, sometimes this out burst is managed almost under control.
I firmly believe that if a person sees the other in the above fashions he should confront them about it, best if they are cooled off first. It might make them mad at you but If done in a kind way, they at times will attempt to stop their misconduct. I seen my 36 year old daughter go thru this and told her she had to attempt to do somthing about it. She was a church goer at the time as well.
Satan has the power to mess with minds in ways to really set us off. He will work on a child, christian or not and on the parent or gaurdian trying his best to set the trap inorder to ruin lives. He comes to steal to kill and destroy. He has been at it for thousands of years so it is hard to control. It does take love and kindness to help one thru it, and that with God. It took my daughter over a year to get it somewhat under control.
Again the hurt person is the one that hurts others. Therefore they need help and forgiven as well. Grudges and unfrogiveness brings on mush abuse.
With Jesus Love conquers all.
O
I think sometimes the parents themselves got the kid because of other complications and taking out their frustrations on the kid is their way of giving themselves some moral high-ground feeling.
@standup: I would say, "You try and the police will have a manhunt on their hands. In fact, I'm going to report you for threatening me with bodily harm and physical abuse right now." and then I would take out my cell and begin dialing 911. But that's just me.
@standup: I would say, "You try and the police will have a manhunt on their hands. In fact, I'm going to report you for threatening me with bodily harm and physical abuse right now." and then I would take out my cell and begin dialing 911. But that's just me.
M
I don't think it's anyone's 'duty' to spank their children, it's only a parents duty to discipline their child and there are many ways, it is best to work it out for each child, some children need to be spanked and others don't.
The difference between spanking and abuse is that spanking should not leave a child with bruises or fearing their parents, but rather fearing being spanked again, abuse is fearing their parents. I won't presume to speak to your situation but I will say that my view (as someone who was spanked) is that if a child is left with bruises and is scared of their parents they are not being disciplined they are being beaten and abused.
I think it is important to distinguish the two, spanking is a moderate amount of pain that makes the skin a little red for 10 minutes, hitting with undue force leaves bruises, if the latter is happening then that is not spanking they are hard hitting and that is abuse, whether done in the name of Christ or not, that is abuse.
The difference between spanking and abuse is that spanking should not leave a child with bruises or fearing their parents, but rather fearing being spanked again, abuse is fearing their parents. I won't presume to speak to your situation but I will say that my view (as someone who was spanked) is that if a child is left with bruises and is scared of their parents they are not being disciplined they are being beaten and abused.
I think it is important to distinguish the two, spanking is a moderate amount of pain that makes the skin a little red for 10 minutes, hitting with undue force leaves bruises, if the latter is happening then that is not spanking they are hard hitting and that is abuse, whether done in the name of Christ or not, that is abuse.
W
I think that a good parent should be able to raise his/ her child WITHOUT spanking, hitting or threatening him/ her....
you can taka away privileges, send them to a room (where they don't have toys)/ give them time- out, tell them off.. but in my mind NEVER hit them... (and btw spanking your children is illegal in norway...)
you can taka away privileges, send them to a room (where they don't have toys)/ give them time- out, tell them off.. but in my mind NEVER hit them... (and btw spanking your children is illegal in norway...)
Although i do strongly belive a child should be smacked ( the british word for spanked ) I belive there is a point where it becomes child abuse.
I dont understand either, how a parent can do that to their own child. But i mean a smack is okaii, if deserved, the bible teaches it.
When I leave school, I would like to be a doctor, or physcologist, or help people who have been abused.
I was reading books about the human body, chemistry, biology...the pyhsics of the human body and physcology. One day while in the libary I saw this book called
A child called it
and
Child C
and
Ugly
there were a few more i had read , they were really good insights for me, of a life like that, and also it really gave me appreiciation of how lucky I am with how my parents treat me..etc etc..
i recommend them
Child C and A Child Called It, are pritty cruel and gruesome though. But that dosent mean that Ugly is an esay read.
I dont understand either, how a parent can do that to their own child. But i mean a smack is okaii, if deserved, the bible teaches it.
When I leave school, I would like to be a doctor, or physcologist, or help people who have been abused.
I was reading books about the human body, chemistry, biology...the pyhsics of the human body and physcology. One day while in the libary I saw this book called
A child called it
and
Child C
and
Ugly
there were a few more i had read , they were really good insights for me, of a life like that, and also it really gave me appreiciation of how lucky I am with how my parents treat me..etc etc..
i recommend them
Child C and A Child Called It, are pritty cruel and gruesome though. But that dosent mean that Ugly is an esay read.