Feminist Pro-Lifers

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Angela53510

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Here are some startling facts about abortion - sometimes it is the man who demands the abortion, not the woman.

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"Women have told me, with streaming eyes, that their husbands have insisted that they should destroy the life of their unborn babies..." The article entitled "Where the Blame Belongs" was published in the Universe in 1869 and authored by "A Mother."
Feminists for Life opposes coercion to abort or impoverish their children once born. Instead we encourage support by fathers of children for both mothers and children, and when that is not possible, to provide child support.
 

Angela53510

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As true today for some of us, as it was then!

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"The assertion that suffragists do not care for children and prefer notoriety is so fully contradicted by the lives of the women who are trying to make the world a safer place for both sons and daughters, that no defense is needed. Having spent my own life from fifteen to fifty, loving and laboring for children, as teacher, nurse, storyteller and guardian, I know whereof I speak." So wrote Louisa May Alcott, the author of Little Women in a letter to the Boston Daily Journal, published March 6, 1883.
 

Angela53510

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Sorry I have been negligent about posting lately!

"..ill health and home duties prevent my devoting my heart, pen and time to this most vital question of the day. After fifty years acquaintance with the noble men and women of the Anti-slavery cause, and the sight of the glorious end to their faithful work, I should be at traitor to all I most love, honor and desire to imitate, if I did not covet a place among those who are giving their lives to the white slaves of America [i.e. disenfranchised women]. If I can do no more, let my name stand among those who are willing to bear ridicule and reproach for truth's sake, and so earn some right to rejoice when victory is won. Most heartily yours for Women's Suffrage and other reforms." So wrote author, abolitionist and suffragist Louisa May Alcott to suffrage leader Lucy Stone in August 1873. A century later, Roe v. Wade would become the most vital question of the day, and so it remains."
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Angela53510

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‪#‎OnThisDay‬ in 1776, Abigail Adams penned her famous “Remember the Ladies” letter to her husband John: “I desire you would Remember the Ladies,” she wrote, “Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of the Husbands. Remember all Men would be tyrants if they could. If perticuliar care and attention is not paid to the Laidies we are determined to foment a Rebelion, and will not hold ourselves bound by any Laws in which we have no voice, or Representation.” [sic]‪#‎WomensHistoryMonth‬

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Donkeyfish07

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Great thread ladies, and not a single troll crawled out from underneath the bridge. Miracles DO happen in this day and age!
 

Angela53510

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Thanks Donkeyfish. I have learned a lot from these different posts, and about the women who fought against abortion. Here is another one, more modern, but definitely against abortion, including on account of rape!

Did I deserve the death penalty?
My “crime” was being conceived through rape.
So the next time you hear people talking about “exceptions” to abortion for rape and incest, think of me.
My name is Rebecca.
I am that exception.

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proverbs35

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Here are some startling facts about abortion - sometimes it is the man who demands the abortion, not the woman.

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"Women have told me, with streaming eyes, that their husbands have insisted that they should destroy the life of their unborn babies..." The article entitled "Where the Blame Belongs" was published in the Universe in 1869 and authored by "A Mother."
Feminists for Life opposes coercion to abort or impoverish their children once born. Instead we encourage support by fathers of children for both mothers and children, and when that is not possible, to provide child support.
In a national study, women gave reasons for having abortions:
Forced by mother
Father opposed [of the pregnancy]
Husband or boyfriend persuaded me

No other option given
Would have been kicked out
Loss of family's support
Lack of support from society
Clinic persuaded me
In 95% of all cases, the male partner plays a central role in the decision. Of men interviewed at abortion clinics 45% recalled urging abortion, including 37% of married men. Many of these men reported being justified in being the primary decision maker in the decision to have the abortion.

http://www.publiceye.org/ark/reprodu...ns-america.php

Some like to primarily blame feminism for abortion. However, there are a lot of reasons why women get abortions. Many women are persuaded or forced by the men in their lives to get an abortion, but many people will continue to turn a blind eye to that because it doesn't help their agenda as it relates to placing all or primary blame on feminism.

Great thread - Angela!
 
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Donkeyfish07

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Some like to primarily blame feminism for abortion. However, there are a lot of reasons why women get abortions. Many women are persuaded or forced by the men in their lives to get an abortion, but many people will continue to turn a blind eye to that because it doesn't help their agenda as it relates to placing all or primary blame on feminism.

Great thread - Angela!
That is a very valid point. I would imagine it puts even more pressure on ladies who do not really want to have an abortion, but that would lead them to reason "I'm not going to have any help from him, he wants me to get rid of the child already.....how can I expect him to help me? I would be all alone". Not that this is a good reason to abort, but I sympathize with women that are in that situation deeply. It's a very bad position to be in.
 

Angela53510

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"Pro-Abortion Poll Shows Majority of Women Are Pro-Life

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
June 25, 2003

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — A recent poll conducted by the pro-abortion Center for the Advancement of Women found something the authors didn’t expect: a majority of American women take a pro-life position on abortion.
Only one-third (30%) say abortion should be generally available. Fifty-one percent took a pro-life position saying abortion should be illegal (17%) or restricted only to the rare cases of rape, incest or to prevent the death of the mother (34%).

Faye Wattleton, president of the group, bemoaned the results of her own poll.
"There is significant and growing support for severe restrictions on abortion rights," Wattleton said.
The poll also found that keeping abortion legal was the next to last most important priority for women.

This "is alarming news," the former Planned Parenthood president Wattleton said. "We are losing ground on many hard-won victories for women’s rights, which could ambush the status that women have achieved."
Pro-life groups were pleased by the poll results and say they show women reject abortion.
"The poll clearly demonstrates that after 30 years of legal abortion, too many women know the truth — either personally or from a friend or relative. Women in increasing numbers are rejecting the ’70s notion that our right to education, participation in the workplace, our status in society or politics are linked to the idea that women have to pass as men in order to be equal," explained Feminists for Life President Serrin Foster.
"This polling data demonstrates that women are getting the message that abortion hurts women and is detrimental to women, families, and society," added Denise Burke, staff counsel with Americans United for Life. "Clearly, American women have rejected the mantra of abortion-on-demand advocated by pro-abortion forces."
"But, we must not congratulate ourselves yet," Burke told LifeNews.com. "We need to continue to educate the public about the danger of abortion and the damage that 30 years of abortion on demand has wrought."

Kind of amazing that the pro-abortionist have realized for the first time they are losing their battle for the hearts and minds of women with regards to abortion being wrong. We should be thankful that after all these years of protesting abortion, the public is starting to wake up to the fact that abortion is murder.

| LifeNews.com


 

Angela53510

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Not exactly a feminist - but today is the day that Bonhoeffer was executed, in 1945. He was also pro-life!

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you; I ordained you a prophet to the nations.” (Jeremiah 1.5)

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Angela53510

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Here is an excellent article from Christianity today, on how Betty Friedan and her ilk did not start the feminist movement.

In the 18th century, the first Great Awakening brought a return to the earliest centuries' involvement of lay people. Women's involvement in missions sometimes included preaching, and on the frontier, Christian women experienced increased levels of autonomy. By the 19th century the pro-woman consciousness had a label: "the woman movement," now called first-wave feminism. Male and female Bible-believers gathered at the Seneca Falls Convention, where the group drafted a declaration addressing the role of women in society.
In the half-century that followed, many believers joined the push for women's suffrage, and dozens of foreign mission societies sent out women missionaries. The editor of The Message and Deaconess Advocate, Lucy Rider Meyer defended their role in her 1895 defense, saying, "In deaconess ranks to-day may be found physicians, editors, stenographers, teachers, nurses, book-keepers, superintendents of hospitals and orphanages… A bit of history shows that the 'new woman' is not an invention of the last decade but that, in the character of Hilda, Abbess of Whitby."
This "new woman" is not an invention of second-wave feminism either. Betty Friedan did not start the "woman movement;" Christians did. Motivated by the belief that men and women were made in God's image to "rule the earth" together, these pro-woman, pro-justice believers sought to right wrongs for those who had less social influence.
The teaching that women's involvement is a new phenomenon in church history has been used to silence those whom the Spirit has gifted for leadership. And advances made on behalf of women have been attributed entirely to secular feminism. We ourselves have been complicit, because we haven't known our own history.
Let us rise up, then, standing on the shoulders of those in Christ before us who—while embracing a high view of the family—have shared the gospel, taught the word, overturned unjust laws, buried the dead, and helped the suffering.


The Feminists We Forgot | Her.meneutics | Christianitytoday.com

 
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In a national study, women gave reasons for having abortions:
Forced by mother
Father opposed [of the pregnancy]
Husband or boyfriend persuaded me

No other option given
Would have been kicked out
Loss of family's support
Lack of support from society
Clinic persuaded me
In 95% of all cases, the male partner plays a central role in the decision. Of men interviewed at abortion clinics 45% recalled urging abortion, including 37% of married men. Many of these men reported being justified in being the primary decision maker in the decision to have the abortion.

http://www.publiceye.org/ark/reprodu...ns-america.php

Some like to primarily blame feminism for abortion. However, there are a lot of reasons why women get abortions. Many women are persuaded or forced by the men in their lives to get an abortion, but many people will continue to turn a blind eye to that because it doesn't help their agenda as it relates to placing all or primary blame on feminism.

Great thread - Angela!
PARTIALY true!

That is not the wider information of each nation, TIME or culture and, these last 3 decades, the decision had common consent JUST TO "SAFE" MONEY, to spare those problems childbearing brings and, when I was 18, my GF decised to abort WITHOUT telling, because I didn{ t know she was pregnant and, my own mother, lost the account on the time she got rid of some unborn brother I could have had. So, the problem is more dued to living in cities, "indistrial" societies, and the money medical and stockers do when a person dies. Resumed: Abortion is cused for selfishness + greed.

I am ALIVE because my father wanted me to be born... I don' t know your personal cases! :)
 

Angela53510

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Secular Hermit, it was a study done in the US. And it obviously does not apply to you. So sorry you too have been hurt by the abortion lie!

The problem is that the other side of the story is not being told. Not about how much it hurts women, both physically and emotionally, but also men. But the biggest issue is that it kills a living human being. I know most people here are in agreement concerning the evils of abortion, but the more we learn, the more we can share.

In other words, if you know a man who has a woman in his life considering abortion, talk to them, and tell them the truth about how bad it is. Maybe a lot of men have never thought it through, pushing women to have abortions and how it will affect everyone.

And I agre selfishness and greed is a big part of the picture, but sometimes it is ignorance. Being lied to by the pro-abortionists, never knowing until too late that you have killed an unborn child.

It's funny, I have never had anyone tell me that abortion was the best thing they ever did. Quite the opposite! It always ends in either hurt, or a hardened heart.
 

proverbs35

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Rape victim and mother of Molly Anne Dutton refused to have an abortion

Molly Anne Dutton is the daughter of a young, married woman who survived a sexual assault in California and became pregnant. To compound matters, the woman’s husband gave her an ultimatum: Abort the baby or get a divorce. Rather than having the abortion, Dutton’s mom chose to move to Alabama and carry the baby to term. She worked with Lifeline Children’s Services, a Christian adoption group in Birmingham, Ala., to place the child in a home. Dutton’s adoptive parents served on the agency’s board at the time and when they heard about the situation, they decided to adopt the baby who would one day become Auburn University's 2013 homecoming queen.

Source: Auburn homecoming queen's unique abortion story is drawing national attention | AL.com