Cutting The Cord In Natural and Physical Mother & Child

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J-Kay-2

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When we are pregnant with our baby, the umbilical cord is
nourishment to baby. When the baby is born, the cord that
bound us is cut. Severing the dependence between Mother
and child.

We hold that perfect little one we carried for 9 months and
look at it in awe. Count the toes, count the fingers... look
to see if it really is the little girl or boy you wanted.

I did that. I remember like it was yesterday. The little pink
bundle handed to me. I unwrapped her like she was a gift.
She was a gift from God. I remember checking to see if
she really was a girl. I counted her little toes, and fingers.
I looked at her beautiful little face. She had her Nanny's nose.
I was thrilled beyond words.

She was a precious daughter to raise. Never gave us problems.
Always respectful to us. She was a great student in school.
Her first 3 years were in public school, then we put her in
Christian School. She never argued about having to wait
until she was 16 to date. She really was a studious type and
talented. She was beautiful and still is.

Finally the day comes she is ready to marry. That was one of
the difficult times, even though he was a Christian. Handing
something so special over to another, is not easy. But we do
it because it is what we have to do as parents.

She struggled to have her own child, but could not get pregnant.
She considered adopting, or see a specialist. Then God saw fit
to give her a daughter of her own and a beautiful one at that.
She and her husband moved to another State and after having
had our Granddaughter near us for 7 years, we were certainly
losing a special gift God gave to her parents. Not only that we
were losing our own gift, her mother.

At first it was okay and we could do the short few hours drive
to visit. Things went well, always had lots of sight seeing and
sea food restaurants to eat at. We really loved visiting them.

Time goes by and gradually something isn't right. A Mother just
knows. The daughter admits she is not well, carrying a burden
and stressed to the max. I soon learned not to share any of my
issues I was experiencing in my own life, because it was only
adding to hers.

I began to feel the long distant gap growing. She would call if
she felt like it. She would share if she needed to. Her father and
I have interceded for her many many times. Spiritual warfare, etc.

I learned when I called her phone, she let the voice mail pick up.
No return calls. If I emailed, she would try to get a quick response.
Things were changing. She was not the person I knew. My heart
was breaking, her dad was badly hurt by this as well.

I always knew never to interfere with my children's life. Especially
married life. Never expect to know all that was going on. Do NOT
tell them what you see wrong with their mate. Do NOT expect
them to come home if they are having issues. ( Unless of course
it is a serious life or death situation ) That was not the case.

I say all this to share the fact, even though we prayed for her all
through the illnesses she had, the long hours of work she put in,
and her home life.... it was draining on us as parents because we
did not want to see our baby girl ill, and stressed. We worried
over her as much as when she was home. But, we did put her in
Gods hands.... or so I thought.

Finally last fall it seemed as if all I ever had with her began to crumble.
I crumbled with it. I know for 2 months I wept and prayed so hard,
because the relationship I once had with her was not the same
anymore. I knew it was going to be over.

Finally I realized, the umbilical cord in the natural had to be cut.
Did she do it ? Did God do it ? I do not know.... It hurt like .....
almost like death..... I had lost one daughter to death.... so I know
what the difference is.

She came home for visit few days. We were okay, but there is
something missing. I learned no matter how I knew never to put
her husband down.... I also learned do not tell your child their other
parents flaws, they don't want to hear it. Do not confide those
things in them. Tell friend. Come to CC and share it, but don't tell
your child. She loves both of us. But she doesn't want the bad
put upon her shoulders. It is more stress than she needs.

Will it ever be the same? I don't think it will be. She is a grown
woman. I have given her the space she needs. It has been a
month since I have heard from her. Obviously she is needing time
to process whatever is bothering her. I just wait.

In case you wonder, why don't I make the first move ? I have
in the past let a couple of weeks go, then check on her. This is
the longest period I have allowed it to pass. I am waiting this
time for her to make the move. I am tired, I am hurt, I love
her so much, but she has changed and when she is ready, she will
contact me. In the meantime, I pray for her aloud. I weep for
her, but the cord has been cut and it can't be reattached again.

God be with her and help her through this time in her life. He
alone knows the depth of her stressed life and health issues.
When she is ready to share, I will be here......

I had a neighbor when my children were little who had a saying
she shared with me.....

You will make it through this, you may not look the same, but
you will make it. Yes, with Jesus, I will make it.

P.S. Please, just because I am sharing this, I beg of you please
do not tell me what a horrible person I am. I have gone through
my life feeling like that... Don't rub salt in the wounds, please.
 

jogoldie

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Now you know J I would have something to say......first... the last thing you are is horrible.....you sound like every other mother
I talk to with grown children......for me its differnt because I had no husband to help me raise mine...I didnt have help except what
my children could do.....builds a differnt bond when its ..mom and dad helping eachother......obviously you have
raised a self resilient girl.....you should be proud....there are days that go by and my daughter and I live together and we dont talk...
life is busy and it runs by before we know it......when your a single parent you rely on your children for more than they
should ever have to bear...my daughter turned into my mother at some point ...I still cant figure out when.....and God knows
with what ive endured through all this I need them far more than they need me.....so I have my issues on that.....
So what im saying my dear friend and sister.....I get it......our circumstances vary but a mothers heart is the same...easily broken..
Quick to fix.....and takes on the world....
But for me at least we are there for eachother always......peace , joy and love to you....jo
 

Nice_Lady

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We will be together in paradise. Usually its very big pain to have only one child. But remember that a man leave his parents and go with his wife. Of course the daughter accept his "new" family sirname which shows everyone she is no longer part of her previous family she is now "addopted". But of course we should focus our mind on God not on humans because idols are easy to make. Jesus is what you are living for!
 
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We will be together in paradise. Usually its very big pain to have only one child. But remember that a man leave his parents and go with his wife. Of course the daughter accept his "new" family sirname which shows everyone she is no longer part of her previous family she is now "addopted". But of course we should focus our mind on God not on humans because idols are easy to make. Jesus is what you are living for!
Especially with married adults, their parents are no longer responsible for them. But it's good to keep the door open. Prayer is a great role for the parent of an adult son or daughter.
 
J

J-Kay-2

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Wow .... I asked NOT to be put down and I feel like I have been knocked
down. Only Jo could understand a Mothers love for her child.
Nice Lady.... You are right, idols fall. So I assume you see I made my daughter
an idol in my life and God is angry.
Ahhh, Mr. Farouk, if you go back and read it you would see I said when she
married, actually when my 3 children married, I NEVER interfered with their
life. If I had to pick up their mail, I never looked to see who it came from.
So, I take offense to your not understanding my pain of having to let go of
something that was precious. I am okay now...
Did you not see I said her father and I pray for her ? Why was I so foolish
to post my life here. Satan has had a hey day with this and it cuts deeply.

So I made my daughter who was our only living daughter an idol. I get
that. I will repent of that and say thank you for showing that to me
NiceLady. Yes we did find her to be so pleasant and loved the joy she
brought to us. We made mistakes.... and I just showed the whole world
a Mothers love can be done wrong..... We can love too much. Guilty as charged.

 

Angela53510

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It is so hard to be estranged from our adult children. A friend on mine was expecting her first grandchild, and the baby died from strangulation on the chord at birth. She tried to comfort her daughter, they had always been close. By Christmas this year, the daughter would not respond to her calls and emails, and they spent their first Christmas apart. She has not heard from her since then, and my friend has grown weary from crying and wondering why her daughter turned on her, when she only wanted to comfort her in their mutual grief.

Your story is not the same, but it has the same ring of grief and despair. If your daughter was an idol, (and I do not accuse you of this, just what I read), then God is giving you the opportunity to put him first. I would love to reassure you that God will renew your relationship with your daughter, but that is not mine to predict.

Suffice it to say, I am sorry that time, distance and other factors have severed that beautiful bond. Praying for your loss, and that God will open doors for healing and ministry even through the pain and sorrow.
 

jogoldie

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Im not seeing the idoI thing..... for their sake I could not idolize my children....they would not be under
Gods protection if I did.....no one is above God in ours lives........when someones child dies before them....
.it forces a new appreciation to what children
are to us......J and I know this first hand......I might love them with all I have.....but never above God...
And I pray no one has to understand that kind of loss......my friend was needing understanding...
and to vent grief....wheres the love.......peace to all....
 
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J-Kay-2

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It is so hard to be estranged from our adult children. A friend on mine was expecting her first grandchild, and the baby died from strangulation on the chord at birth. She tried to comfort her daughter, they had always been close. By Christmas this year, the daughter would not respond to her calls and emails, and they spent their first Christmas apart. She has not heard from her since then, and my friend has grown weary from crying and wondering why her daughter turned on her, when she only wanted to comfort her in their mutual grief.

Your story is not the same, but it has the same ring of grief and despair. If your daughter was an idol, (and I do not accuse you of this, just what I read), then God is giving you the opportunity to put him first. I would love to reassure you that God will renew your relationship with your daughter, but that is not mine to predict.

Suffice it to say, I am sorry that time, distance and other factors have severed that beautiful bond. Praying for your loss, and that God will open doors for healing and ministry even through the pain and sorrow.

I am so sorry for your friend and the estrangement with her daughter.
I can't imagine why, but I sure understand the pain for your friend. I
see her not only grieving her little grand baby's death, but her daughter
pulling away from her. I am not a Therapist but there is something really
wrong with that and I pray God will minister to your friend. I don't know
what is going on any more. I know the Word said .... children will turn
against their parents, etc. (in the last days ).... just another sign.
Thank you for sharing and it does help to have a kind comment. Bless you.
 
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J-Kay-2

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Im not seeing the idoI thing..... for their sake I could not idolize my children....they would not be under
Gods protection if I did.....no one is above God in ours lives........when someones child dies before them....
.it forces a new appreciation to what children
are to us......J and I know this first hand......I might love them with all I have.....but never above God...
And I pray no one has to understand that kind of loss......my friend was needing understanding...
and to vent grief....wheres the love.......peace to all....

We really don't think of a child being an idol but I suppose it is possible.
But as you stressed, anything we put above God would be an idol. And
you are right, she was not put above God. We had such a great relationship,
but I realized last fall when God showed me it was time to realize it was
going to be different and see her as a grown woman and mother and she
was not to be my baby anymore. She is 45. It is time, isn't it ? LOL....
Thanks Jo.... I don't regret praying for her health, job, marriage, etc,
because as you said, losing one daughter at her age, makes me know we
can lose our child at any age and to keep them close to our heart.

I did just send her a brief email as it has been a month, and that is longest
ever, for us not to be in contact. I wrote to her and said just checking to
see how she is. Asking her to send brief message to let us know. So if I
don't hear from her, it will really going to hurt..... praying for the best.

Thanks for all prayers ... they are appreciated....
I guess one wonders why I share personal things, and I can only say it
might be helpful to someone else. I sure don't have answers... but I do
have empathy and can pray....

In Christ,
J~K~2
 
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Cutting the cord is what being a Mother is all about! It is a life long process. We teach, step by step, to take responsibility for their own life. Use a spoon to feed themselves, tie their own shoelaces, decide what their talents are so they can choose their education, go to the Lord for themselves, all of it.

One very articulate daughter told me after she married that she wanted so much to have me help her choose the drapes for her living room as a friend, but she was so used to having me lead her as a mother that it was difficult for her to have me help as only a friend.

I know of one four year old so protected by parents with "careful" "let me help you" that little girl fell all the time, even, when she went to preschool and was on her own. We all know of the child who is so protected through high school that they cannot handle the freedom of college life.

We know of the problem when a child leaves home, leaving us free to live much more for ourselves. We must learn all about self worth, and how to fill our lives. It makes it doubly hard when we see our children making choices we know will harm them.
 
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Sirk

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I am giving you a long distance hug and sending love to your aching heart. You are so sweet and I wish you were my mom.
 
J

J-Kay-2

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Cutting the cord is what being a Mother is all about! It is a life long process. We teach, step by step, to take responsibility for their own life. Use a spoon to feed themselves, tie their own shoelaces, decide what their talents are so they can choose their education, go to the Lord for themselves, all of it.

One very articulate daughter told me after she married that she wanted so much to have me help her choose the drapes for her living room as a friend, but she was so used to having me lead her as a mother that it was difficult for her to have me help as only a friend.

I know of one four year old so protected by parents with "careful" "let me help you" that little girl fell all the time, even, when she went to preschool and was on her own. We all know of the child who is so protected through high school that they cannot handle the freedom of college life.

We know of the problem when a child leaves home, leaving us free to live much more for ourselves. We must learn all about self worth, and how to fill our lives. It makes it doubly hard when we see our children making choices we know will harm them.

I discovered some time ago there are 2 cords cut between Mother and Daughter.
One being the umbilical cord at birth. The second is the cord when they are
married and or have a career.

I had one daughter who did make wrong choices. She called herself 'the black
sheep'...... I never called her that. She was beautiful and fun loving. She loved
people and accepted everyone as they were. Again some wrong choices.
The cord was cut when she married and it was the most painful thing.... Like
death... I would walk by her room and see her bed she used and I knelt and
sobbed my heart out. She was my first born. I adapted to her being married,
and just loved her as always. When she had marital problems I encouraged her
to turn to God for her help. That did not work out.

My son, is a wonderful man. A wonderful husband and father. The cord with
him was cut when he married. We stayed fairly close for short time, then he
had to pull away and be what God intended, a husband. He is a Godly man,
very intelligent. I feel inferior to him.

My youngest daughter, this is the one I REALLY wrote about RedTent. She
was always here in our heart and she simply loved us as much as we loved
her. The umbilical cord was cut at birth..... then when she married, it did not
get cut as it did with first two. So take 43 years of having one so close to her
parents and showing her love and pleasure of being with us by visitation, or
traveling and sightseeing with he husband. Then going through a difficult
pregnancy she was high risk, made her even more special because she
wanted that baby so badly. She was blessed, as a high risk, God brought her
and baby girl into our lives.

Now the purpose of the thread is the fact she had a job that required much
of her time, along with illness, and husband and daughter.... they moved away,
so our seeing one another was limited. She began to cut off the communication,
first she just did not want to talk about it... home issues... or on drive home from
work, she did not want to talk about a stressful day.... When she was ill she
spent that time in bed whole week end. That meant she did not answer voice
mail and she was not writing emails anymore. It was subtle and heart wrenching
for me and her father.

I know it is hard for anyone to understand what another feels in their heart.
This was the second cutting of the umbilical cord and I spent 2 month weeping
when I realized I had actually lost her. The closeness was not the same and
would never be. I did not mean to be misunderstood. I explained somewhere
else I never was one to interfere with her marriage, or so much as look at her
mail if I had to pick it up for her. If she was having issue with husband, I
encouraged her to hang in there. I am not perfect. I don't even know why I
am defending myself. I just wanted to clarify, what the thread is about.

The first child, as you know RedTent, is in her grave now. I have learned
never take it for granted we will never have to bury our own child, no matter
the age.

I know you lost your son recently. I admire your ability to go on with your
life and as always, you had so much wisdom to share. God bless you and
keep you in His tender loving care.

J~K~2
 
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J-Kay-2

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I am giving you a long distance hug and sending love to your aching heart. You are so sweet and I wish you were my mom.
Well.... being my son is 50 years old, I think you could give me a hug and
no one would complain about it ..... God bless you .... J~K~2
 
J

J-Kay-2

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I am giving you a long distance hug and sending love to your aching heart. You are so sweet and I wish you were my mom.

Backing up the truck here..... Sirk..... it dawned on me you were speaking to RedTent.... OOPS.
 
Oct 31, 2011
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I discovered some time ago there are 2 cords cut between Mother and Daughter.
One being the umbilical cord at birth. The second is the cord when they are
married and or have a career.

I had one daughter who did make wrong choices. She called herself 'the black
sheep'...... I never called her that. She was beautiful and fun loving. She loved
people and accepted everyone as they were. Again some wrong choices.
The cord was cut when she married and it was the most painful thing.... Like
death... I would walk by her room and see her bed she used and I knelt and
sobbed my heart out. She was my first born. I adapted to her being married,
and just loved her as always. When she had marital problems I encouraged her
to turn to God for her help. That did not work out.

My son, is a wonderful man. A wonderful husband and father. The cord with
him was cut when he married. We stayed fairly close for short time, then he
had to pull away and be what God intended, a husband. He is a Godly man,
very intelligent. I feel inferior to him.

My youngest daughter, this is the one I REALLY wrote about RedTent. She
was always here in our heart and she simply loved us as much as we loved
her. The umbilical cord was cut at birth..... then when she married, it did not
get cut as it did with first two. So take 43 years of having one so close to her
parents and showing her love and pleasure of being with us by visitation, or
traveling and sightseeing with he husband. Then going through a difficult
pregnancy she was high risk, made her even more special because she
wanted that baby so badly. She was blessed, as a high risk, God brought her
and baby girl into our lives.

Now the purpose of the thread is the fact she had a job that required much
of her time, along with illness, and husband and daughter.... they moved away,
so our seeing one another was limited. She began to cut off the communication,
first she just did not want to talk about it... home issues... or on drive home from
work, she did not want to talk about a stressful day.... When she was ill she
spent that time in bed whole week end. That meant she did not answer voice
mail and she was not writing emails anymore. It was subtle and heart wrenching
for me and her father.

I know it is hard for anyone to understand what another feels in their heart.
This was the second cutting of the umbilical cord and I spent 2 month weeping
when I realized I had actually lost her. The closeness was not the same and
would never be. I did not mean to be misunderstood. I explained somewhere
else I never was one to interfere with her marriage, or so much as look at her
mail if I had to pick it up for her. If she was having issue with husband, I
encouraged her to hang in there. I am not perfect. I don't even know why I
am defending myself. I just wanted to clarify, what the thread is about.

The first child, as you know RedTent, is in her grave now. I have learned
never take it for granted we will never have to bury our own child, no matter
the age.

I know you lost your son recently. I admire your ability to go on with your
life and as always, you had so much wisdom to share. God bless you and
keep you in His tender loving care.

J~K~2
I had three children, only my middle one is left.

When my middle girl was born, her sister had developed such a sever case of asthma that she would turn blue from lack of air. They were only 18 month apart. I had no time for my baby, night and day I only kept her sister alive. I couldn't nurse her, and I don't remember one time of holding her for her bottle. I didn't know then, but there is a bonding that happens with feeding a baby, and the time spent with them. She didn't have that.

This child grew up to be perfect. She can do anything to perfection, besides a wonderful Christian woman. She has been a photography model, an administrative assistant for the CEO of a large corporation, couture seamstress, built a log house, runs her own business, part of a four man crew on a sailboat from Hawaii to Oregon, her pine needle baskets sell for $700, you name it she does it better than anyone. She says she has to be the best because she has always known she was alone. Sometimes she would go for weeks without speaking to anyone but her sister.

When she was 22 and I was taking care of her because she was quite ill for some time, she said "you loved me all the time, didn't you." We became friends. We sewed together, worked on houses together, beaded together making jewelry, and every year we spent a week together backpacking.

Then I became too worn down by aging things to be her pal. At the same time we had tragic death after tragic death in the family, including her husband. It was too much for her, and instead of turning to me for comfort she saw me as an unreasonable problem. I lost her, too.

There is only one old friend left alive, all others are gone. My husband and children are gone. It drained the last of my strength. But, as you know there are reserves always available to us. In the spiritual realm, life is eternal. God uses us for others, but God sees us as valuable, just for ourselves, too.

I was so used to thinking of others anytime I did anything. You know, would Aunt Clara approve of how this is done, and what affect will this have on my daughter, etc. At 89, with this new stage of my life, I am learning to say "how will this affect me". At another stage of my life, that would not be the right question to ask myself, but for where I am right now, it is the right question. It doesn't cancel out looking for ways to be of service to others, to encourage and love, but it is still often best right now.
 
J

J-Kay-2

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I had three children, only my middle one is left.

When my middle girl was born, her sister had developed such a sever case of asthma that she would turn blue from lack of air. They were only 18 month apart. I had no time for my baby, night and day I only kept her sister alive. I couldn't nurse her, and I don't remember one time of holding her for her bottle. I didn't know then, but there is a bonding that happens with feeding a baby, and the time spent with them. She didn't have that.

This child grew up to be perfect. She can do anything to perfection, besides a wonderful Christian woman. She has been a photography model, an administrative assistant for the CEO of a large corporation, couture seamstress, built a log house, runs her own business, part of a four man crew on a sailboat from Hawaii to Oregon, her pine needle baskets sell for $700, you name it she does it better than anyone. She says she has to be the best because she has always known she was alone. Sometimes she would go for weeks without speaking to anyone but her sister.

When she was 22 and I was taking care of her because she was quite ill for some time, she said "you loved me all the time, didn't you." We became friends. We sewed together, worked on houses together, beaded together making jewelry, and every year we spent a week together backpacking.

Then I became too worn down by aging things to be her pal. At the same time we had tragic death after tragic death in the family, including her husband. It was too much for her, and instead of turning to me for comfort she saw me as an unreasonable problem. I lost her, too.

There is only one old friend left alive, all others are gone. My husband and children are gone. It drained the last of my strength. But, as you know there are reserves always available to us. In the spiritual realm, life is eternal. God uses us for others, but God sees us as valuable, just for ourselves, too.

I was so used to thinking of others anytime I did anything. You know, would Aunt Clara approve of how this is done, and what affect will this have on my daughter, etc. At 89, with this new stage of my life, I am learning to say "how will this affect me". At another stage of my life, that would not be the right question to ask myself, but for where I am right now, it is the right question. It doesn't cancel out looking for ways to be of service to others, to encourage and love, but it is still often best right now.
You had a birthday? Happy Birthday my precious mentor. You have
the most precious outlook on life. You have made me to know there is
always someone who has had harder knocks in life then I have. You
don't realize you are the most awesome lady on Christian Chat, in my
opinion. I have learned much from you and I want to tell you .......
"I LOVE YOU." BIG ( HUGS ) God bless you RedTent. J~K~2