I need spiritual help

Lecrae · Jun 7, 2014

I was born in a Christian household 20 years ago, and I've grown up in the church. I've been baptized and have always believed in Christ. I am scared though. There is an addictive sexual sin that I've been trying to get free of for at least a few years, but I'm still dwelling in it. I thought I was free at one point, but then I fell back into it. I just can't seem to get free. I've asked for Christ's help more times than I can count. I've asked for him to help me repent, some of those prayers in tears and on my knees. I just can't seem to get free. What am I to do? God says believe and repent and you will be saved. But I can't seem to repent. At all. The longest I've been able to repent was a month. But according to the biblical definition of salvation....I don't have it since I haven't repented yet. Some will say "if you simply believe you are saved and the devil is causing doubts in your mind because that's what he does". Well that is simply false. And I know it. I need to find repentance, but I am losing hope in if that's possible. I've been in this sin for at least 9 to 10 years and I desperately want to be free. Any advice?

Raine · Jun 7, 2014

Wow. That is tough. I'm not sure if you have tried this but...

Have a male friend who you can confide in and keep you accountable. Someone you can contact any time you are tempted. Someone who you look up to and understands your difficulty and who you can count on spiritually and pray together etc. And I would avoid all temptations. I struggle with lust as well, and when I see a guy running down the street with his shirt off, I don't even try to look because I don't want ANYTHING to lead me into temptation or lustful thoughts. Avoid pictures, movies, shows, etc that would lead you to thinking anything sexually.

I meditate on the verse about having thoughts that are excellent and worthy of praise as well. Helps because the Word of God is powerful in itself. Learn versus that you can memorize and repeat in your moments of weakness. Do everything you can to run away from it... Like if you have temptation, surround yourself with people, or go somewhere public etc.

Lecrae · Jun 7, 2014

Raine said:

Having an accountability partner in person would be awesome, but that's not available to me at this point. In my area, there are hardly any Christians. And the people who go to my church are either too good to be my friends or are "too busy" to be an accountability partner. I've tried accountability partners over the internet, even giving a few my phone number so we could text, but that also failed. Honestly, I feel like if I really want to beat this I need to move to a different state that is filled with more Christ minded people. But, that definitely isn't an option for at least 2-3 years. So right now I'm just stuck and don't know what to try next, as I feel I've tried it all. I've even done the 60 day course on settingcaptivesfree.com at least 4 times to no avail. I even became a mentor for a short period before I started to fall again.

Raine · Jun 7, 2014

I would really love to help you in this walk, but know that it is not wise since I am not a man... I will be praying for you. Feel free to PM me if you need extra prayer.

I will pray for God to provide a way of escape. You can do it!

JesusLives · Jun 7, 2014

Have you tried focusing on Jesus? I mean being consumed with Him. Try picking up your bible when the next temptation comes and start reading and read it like a novel that is the most interesting thing you have ever read the kind that you just can't put down and keep reading until this temptation is past.

I try to always pray before I start reading the bible and ask for the Holy Spirits guidance. Read the book of John or any bible chapter you find of interest. Look up Sampson's story and read it - there was a man who constantly dealt with sin and temptation and trouble with women. But he overcame even though he ended up dying at the end of his story he was on God's side. Praying that you will get victory and closer to Jesus.

CEF · Jun 7, 2014

Hey, I sent you some ideas of mine as far as help. Just check your pm and get back with me. I'm praying for you.

tourist · Jun 7, 2014

Lecrae said:

You have repented of this sin. You have not been set free from it yet. Jesus died for all of your sins, not a part of your sins, or some of your sins, but all of your sins. This is not a matter of salvation but rather, a matter of deliverance. You are not strong enough to conquer this addiction on your own. That is what Jesus is there for, and He is there for you. Just take His hand and allow Him to lead and guide you in the deliverance process. Do not think that you are alone in this, because God is with you always. I am a nicotine addict. I have asked God to deliver me from this evil practice. He did not answer my prayer because He knew that I was lying to Him. I realize of course, that this is harmful to the temple of my body that must be dedicated to the Lord. The thing is that this addiction is too hard to break on my own. I believe that it is impossible. I must seek my own deliverance from the Lord. Every one that is alive and walking on this earth that loves and trust the Lord needs deliverance from the things or the one thing that is hindering their walk and talk with the Lord. As I have said to you, you are not alone. I will pray for you for deliverance and perhaps you can pray for me. This might possibly work for us, in fact, I know that it will, in God's time and not ours. We can, and will overcome our addictions with the power of God, and the other things that may be hindering us from being an effective witness to the Lord for others to see and emulate. I hope that this is some comfort to you as I am only telling you the things that have been placed on my heart from the Lord. God Bless You.

CHRISTENE · Jun 8, 2014

One of the ways to deal with any human weakness is to learn what God

thinks about that weakness and the consequences of the wrong action .

Its best to study the Word of God related to those particular area of

weakness in us and meditate it.

In the new testament we learn in

1 Corinthians 6:18

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are

outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own

body.

In the old testament , we learn in Leviticus 18 , how God gives Israel

strict instructions to lead a clean sexual life.That the sexual sins of the

nations God granted Israel to conquer , were one of the prime reasons

why God executes His judgement on them through Israel.

Leviticus 18
New International Version (NIV)
Unlawful Sexual Relations

18 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘I

am the Lord your God. 3 You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you

used to live, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan,

where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices. 4 You must obey

my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God. 5

Keep my decrees and laws, for the person who obeys them will live by

them. I am the Lord.

6 “‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I

am the Lord.

7 “‘Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your

mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.

8 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would

dishonor your father.

9 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s

daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same

home or elsewhere.

10 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your

daughter’s daughter; that would dishonor you.

11 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father’s

wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

12 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister; she is your

father’s close relative.

13 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, because she

is your mother’s close relative.

14 “‘Do not dishonor your father’s brother by approaching his wife to

have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

15 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your

son’s wife; do not have relations with her.

16 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would

dishonor your brother.

17 “‘Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter.

Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her

daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18 “‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual

relations with her while your wife is living.

19 “‘Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the

uncleanness of her monthly period.

20 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile

yourself with her.

21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you

must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a

woman; that is detestable.

23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself

with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual

relations with it; that is a perversion.

24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how

the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25

Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land

vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my

laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not

do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by

the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became

defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited

out the nations that were before you.

29 “‘Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons

must be cut off from their people. 30 Keep my requirements and do not

follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you

came and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the Lord your God.’”

cal3091 · Jun 8, 2014

I know you know this one already, but just thought it might just help. The 'Word' man, 'the word', keep yourself soaked in it. It helps a lot. Everyday, when you get some free time just go to it, cauz it actually has so much you need and you will find it very interesting if you look at it the right way. Once you start soaking yourself in the word, when temptations come, you will know that it is the Devil who is trying to make you fall, so in the authority Jesus has given you, rebuke the devil and soak yourself more in the Word. Helps a lot! It definitely can be a constant fight for a while! Hope this helps.!

ji · Jun 8, 2014

Lecrae said:

Dear Brother,
Its Good that you are Sincere..
God Loves you for that.
your age says 20 here.By the time you reach 40(if coming of Jesus delayed) you might not be thinking and living life like now.
Now apart from the general suggestions you get,how much do you hate this particular black mark you carry?
Did it reach to a point where you don't feel the pleasure anymore and you are just doing it because of the usual behavior pattern?i think you are from your comment.
Then i must say,you are in the right path and i will say you have crossed one level-you have no more pleasure in it.Now to remove it from flesh and from your daily routine is tough matter sometimes even when it might be easy in some occasions.
fear,doubt,loosing Faith in God,etc works as negative factors to go and do the same things again to which we feel no more pleasure.This is a really torturing state.The prob is with us.Remedy is also near us.
The Word of God is our weapon.First you need to unwind the usual behavior pattern by building up a changed life style through Meditating on Holy Scripture.It may not be easy at first.Then slowly you will pick up pace.Do not become arrogant and proud about your spiritual status then(don't become a condemnation preacher).Humble yourself more and count yourself only as a fallen man whom Jesus Redeemed.This is the way we Overcome.
It takes time.
And when you focus on one particular point,there might be flaws that you think might be not so dangerous but in God's Eyes it is.So in such a case,the worst prob a man can have is self pride.Pray to God to be rid of it.you will be Freed from all bondage and you will see the Real Supernatural Deliverance Happening in front of your eyes..

even from the prob you face now...

God Bless.

ji · Jun 8, 2014

Lecrae said:

Having an accountability partner in person would be awesome, but that's not available to me at this point. In my area, there are hardly any Christians. And the people who go to my church are either too good to be my friends or are "too busy" to be an accountability partner. I've tried accountability partners over the internet, even giving a few my phone number so we could text, but that also failed. Honestly, I feel like if I really want to beat this I need to move to a different state that is filled with more Christ minded people. But, that definitely isn't an option for at least 2-3 years. So right now I'm just stuck and don't know what to try next, as I feel I've tried it all. I've even done the 60 day course on settingcaptivesfree.com at least 4 times to no avail. I even became a mentor for a short period before I started to fall again.

Trying to get a person for accountability never works.Don't waste time on it.Take it direct to God is the real solution.no human being is available 24/7,only God is and He is not selfish.

ji · Jun 8, 2014

tourist said:

You have repented of this sin. You have not been set free from it yet. Jesus died for all of your sins, not a part of your sins, or some of your sins, but all of your sins. This is not a matter of salvation but rather, a matter of deliverance. You are not strong enough to conquer this addiction on your own. That is what Jesus is there for, and He is there for you. Just take His hand and allow Him to lead and guide you in the deliverance process. Do not think that you are alone in this, because God is with you always. I am a nicotine addict. I have asked God to deliver me from this evil practice. He did not answer my prayer because He knew that I was lying to Him. I realize of course, that this is harmful to the temple of my body that must be dedicated to the Lord. The thing is that this addiction is too hard to break on my own. I believe that it is impossible. I must seek my own deliverance from the Lord. Every one that is alive and walking on this earth that loves and trust the Lord needs deliverance from the things or the one thing that is hindering their walk and talk with the Lord. As I have said to you, you are not alone. I will pray for you for deliverance and perhaps you can pray for me. This might possibly work for us, in fact, I know that it will, in God's time and not ours. We can, and will overcome our addictions with the power of God, and the other things that may be hindering us from being an effective witness to the Lord for others to see and emulate. I hope that this is some comfort to you as I am only telling you the things that have been placed on my heart from the Lord. God Bless You.

Its people like you that God starts using in the long run.
Good Testimony.
Sometime back i was going through some tough times which i couldn't endure.It came to a point where i had to deny Jesus.But instead i started internet Gospel Sharing.Today i am sustained by Grace of God because i took that step.

oldthennew · Jun 8, 2014

dear Lacrae,

we are touched by your post and honesty...
we commend these brethren who are encouraging you
and giving you very sound advice, we feel their
LOVE and CONCERN, it's such a good thing for
brethren to help brethren.

we speak from our hearts to you,
I, "mr. oldthennew', have had a past sexual addiction which
tormented me much!
but be of good cheer, dear one, for Jesus Christ showed me
the 'root' my sexual addiction.
this is key to 'over-coming, for if we do not know
THE ROOT of BITTERNESS, we can not overcome it.
this can be difficult due to inward denial.
it is a 'self-preservation mode' that we all cling to.
this cannot be 'candy/coated', it is a very painful process.

your 'sexual-addiction' does not come out of the blue,
because, for every effect, there is a cause.
like it is written in the scripture, 'the curse does not come causeless'.

this 'root' is usually not of our own doing, but what others,
particularly, satan's servants have put upon us,
whether knowingly or unknowingly.

so, once we know what to look for and seek it diligently,
Christ will reveal.
and once the 'hidden-darkness' is revealed, we see the
simplicity of what has been done to us.

as other posters have ministered, keep The Word close,
and diligently read, and take on all Holiness,
resist and pray continually, and if there be any other thing
that you need to repent of, this must be done in order for you
to understand the revealing, it is like an onion, layer upon layer,
Christ is our Deliverer, IF we come to Him and pour out our pain
and suffering, knowing and trusting HIM for our deliverance.

although we are weak on many points, Christ Jesus is our Strength,
and there is nothing impossible with Him, AMEN!

Sirk · Jun 8, 2014

A sin like that can be a symptom of a deeper issue. Often times it is based in shame. From personal experience, the reason why you are struggling with the "sin" you speak of is because you have not peeled the onion back to its causation. My personal opinion is that the sin you engage in is a way of releasing the stress you feel from the deeper wound that is in you and still bleeding.

brokenclay · Jun 8, 2014

Read the story of Samson. (Read your bible often. Pray often.) There is also a book I hope you can obtain. its titled FIGHT by Craig Groeschel. "Winning the battles that matter most. You cannot ask God to make you stop what you want to do in your heart. This means you as a Christian have a vice in your life. Satan will use this for as long as you refuse to seek the Lord till you have victory. He wants to stop you from living the testimony of Christ in you. Jesus didn't have it easy. God did not spare his son. He will not spare you either. Whom the Father loves he scorges. Right now this vice may be a pleasurable habit that's hard to break. Don't run off and get married thinking that will solve the problem; if its a sexual sin. It won't. Samson's problem started one step at a time. Don't drink, don't touch what is unclean and He was not to cut his hair. The Holy Spirit was given to him as long as he fulfilled those 3 things. You got to where you are one thought at a time; one strong desire at a time; till your habit now has control of you; like an addict. Do you see how strong it is? Years can go by. You will hide it but Satan knows and will use it to destroy you and your relatiohship with the Lord Jesus Christ. Its only a mind game for now; so heed any advice and do it. Use your temptation to pray and intercede for others as well. Be like an Apostle Paul; rejoice in your suffering; for it works the patience of God in you. If you were not saved you wouldn't be on here showing so much concern. This is a sign the Holy Spirit is working on your behalf. Nothing shall separate the Believer from the Love of God. Amen!

presidente · Jun 10, 2014

Some people recommend lots of prayer and Bible study. If you aren't doing that, you could do that regularly on a schedule. A lot of people do those two things and struggle. I recommend adding 'Confess your faults one to another and pray one for another, that you may be healed.' If you don't have anyone, maybe a church in your town has a men's meeting on a weeknight or a prayer breakfast. You could still go to your church on Sunday morning, but attend this other meeting to find an accountability partner if your church doesn't have it.

Or else you could find a TV ministry that has a prayer line and call in until you find a man who can pray with you so you can apply the scripture in a somewhat less bold way.

If you do end up with a prayer partner, that's great, and if your problem is porn, I hear there is an anti-porn software out there that sends a list of the websites you have been on to a list of people. You could put your pastor and accountability partner on the list.

Do you have a problem with something that being married might help you do away with? If you are masturbating and feeling guilty about it, if you got married, maybe that would help. I don't think marriage would cure a porn addiction, but it might help with masturbation, together with self-control and all the spiritual aspects of things. It's hard to find a wife in the US and get married, but I hear Koreans can get married fast. Usually, they do this with other Koreans. But I met a man who wasn't Korean who met a Korean pastor, said he was looking for a wife. He was a little older. She matched him up with a woman who was appropriately aged who had never been married and they've been together for quite some time. In this country, people think your marriage isn't real unless you are 'in love' and have dated X amount of time. There are still cultures that accept that if you commit to marry someone and marry, you are really married. And a lot of the women, like men, out there think it is okay to day for fun without really thinking seriously of marriage. And some Asian countries are more marriage focused. So you could find a Philippino or Indonesian or Russian woman online who wanted to marry and be married faster than if you dated in the US, but it's risky if you don't figure out a way to see what the potential wife is like and pray and get some direction from the Lord.

Ultimately, though, whatever it is is a spiritual problem. One thing I find helpful is realizing how important it is how you reckon yourself. The Bible says to reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive unto God. If you reckon yourself to be bound to sin, under the dominion of sin, then you will probably live that way. But if you really believe that you are dead to it and that God has freed you, and trust in Christ for that, then I believe you can walk in it. That same passage, 'Romans 6' says 'for sin shall not have dominion over you....' That's worth posting on your mirror and reading in the morning, memorizing, and meditating on.

The Bible says, "Thy word have I hid in mine heart that I might not sin against thee." There are lots of verses you could memorize to quote whenever you are tempted. Repeat them to yourself and believe them, pray and ask God for strength, and also pray with someone else. You are NOT in a hopeless situation. You can beat this thing by the grace and power of God at work in you, as God works in you to do according to His good pleasure.

brokenclay · Jun 10, 2014

WWW.XXXCHURCH.COM Check this out brother. lots of other sites posted on their facebook page. Something to think about in case you become a dad.

TheAristocat · Jun 10, 2014

tourist said:

You have repented of this sin. You have not been set free from it yet. Jesus died for all of your sins, not a part of your sins, or some of your sins, but all of your sins. This is not a matter of salvation but rather, a matter of deliverance. You are not strong enough to conquer this addiction on your own. That is what Jesus is there for, and He is there for you. Just take His hand and allow Him to lead and guide you in the deliverance process. Do not think that you are alone in this, because God is with you always. I am a nicotine addict. I have asked God to deliver me from this evil practice. He did not answer my prayer because He knew that I was lying to Him. I realize of course, that this is harmful to the temple of my body that must be dedicated to the Lord. The thing is that this addiction is too hard to break on my own. I believe that it is impossible. I must seek my own deliverance from the Lord. Every one that is alive and walking on this earth that loves and trust the Lord needs deliverance from the things or the one thing that is hindering their walk and talk with the Lord. As I have said to you, you are not alone. I will pray for you for deliverance and perhaps you can pray for me. This might possibly work for us, in fact, I know that it will, in God's time and not ours. We can, and will overcome our addictions with the power of God, and the other things that may be hindering us from being an effective witness to the Lord for others to see and emulate. I hope that this is some comfort to you as I am only telling you the things that have been placed on my heart from the Lord. God Bless You.

What he said. ^

Eva1218 · Jun 14, 2014

I love that you are seeking Godly counsel. What I suggest is for you to fast. Fasting strengthens our spiritman, it becomes more stronger than our flesh. Don't beat yourself up about it you have fallen many times but GOD is always there for you to get back up. This time defeat your flesh satan desires to sift you as wheat this is why he uses tactics to make you focus on your disappointments and not focus on GOD being able to help you overcome. Your testimony will help others to defeat their issues as well. True Repentance is turning completely away from the sin not falling in it. When you fast and pray speak to the sin speak destruction to it in the Name of JESUS! Don't put yourself in situations where you will fall and when you feel the HOLY SPIRIT speaking to you it is to help you know GOD will always give a way of escape. Keep in mind GOD has someone waiting for you who is just for you, overcome and be Blessed.

Blessings!!!!!!! :")

RedTent · Jun 14, 2014

I faced the same thing, only in a different area. I repented, I knew it was wrong, I put scripture in my mind, but it was as if I had two minds and one part of my mind was out of my control. This was over 60 years ago, there was no internet to search for what to do about it, so I went to the library.

I found out that there really are two kinds of minds we have---the conscious mind and the subconscious mind. I feel sure the Holy Spirit adds to our minds, but science has ignored that so we don't have studies of it outside the church. There are different ways to contact and change the subconscious mind, but we have to understand it to do that.

Anyone who has had a serious auto accident has changed their subconscious mind, for high emotion will do that. They are aware of a change in how they feel in a car after the accident. Often, the subconscious mind of very young children is affected by TV because they are in such a quiet meditative state when they watch, and the sort of filtering system we gain as we grow hasn't gone into effect.

After I studied this part of my mind, I learned how it was programed wrong in the first place, and how to change it, life became so much more sensible and good.

In our media world, according to my grandson who works in that world, it has been quite taken over by the idea that same sex relationships are right. The media has tremendous influence on our subconscious minds, and many now say they are just born that way when they were trained to be that way very early by the media.

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