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I don't get your point in replying to this particular qoute you placed from me. Are you saying that Satan won't bring out every sin you do and hide? This is a serious question because it seems we are in agreement about confessing to the wife, but then you kind of trail off to a man and porn and perhaps not confessing that to his wife. So I am really not sure what your point is. Do you think a man who watches porn is a sin that won't be made known to his spouse ?
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Ugh!!! I cannot believe the measure of deceit encouraged by people like this (don't tell your spouse you sinned against them... WHAT?!?) and the length of justification used by people like this to perpetuate a cover-up... so you don't damage your wife? Too late for that, Buddy! If you truly love your spouse, you won't want to further hurt them by being deceitful. The issue of pride, I don't get that. It would take tremendous amount of humility to confess, if there is love.
IF you can show immeasurable humility by giving all you have - your time, money, attention - all should be put out there for your spouses continual use and inspection - you may be able to keep your marriage in tact. May. Be. Able. To. Let's face it, in these days of quick and easy divorce, there are spouses, who are Christian's, just hanging on by their thumbnails waiting for their partner to screw up. I'm not talking about those marriages. A cheating spouse will nary be forgiven in that case. However, if God is your number one, and your spouse is very next in line, you have a chance...if you're honest.
I believe that God can and will heal. But try to cover it up, get found out later, and your marriage may never heal. It can stay in tact alright, but trust issues can be forever lost. And that is sometimes as devastating as the original cheat. IMHO.
IF you can show immeasurable humility by giving all you have - your time, money, attention - all should be put out there for your spouses continual use and inspection - you may be able to keep your marriage in tact. May. Be. Able. To. Let's face it, in these days of quick and easy divorce, there are spouses, who are Christian's, just hanging on by their thumbnails waiting for their partner to screw up. I'm not talking about those marriages. A cheating spouse will nary be forgiven in that case. However, if God is your number one, and your spouse is very next in line, you have a chance...if you're honest.
I believe that God can and will heal. But try to cover it up, get found out later, and your marriage may never heal. It can stay in tact alright, but trust issues can be forever lost. And that is sometimes as devastating as the original cheat. IMHO.
Genesis 2:24 Mark 10:8 and Ephesians 5:31 All refering to 2 flesh becoming one in marriage. A husband and wife are one, the husband is how Christ is to the church. Covering up and being dishonest in commiting adultry is not at all right, show me in the Bible where a man can comit adultry against his wife and carry on as if nothing had happened and hide it from wife.
As I stated before, all this new age crap coming out the church is only to please the carnal and sinful fake Christian and just make everyone feel better and that everything is ok, when it is not.
As I stated before, all this new age crap coming out the church is only to please the carnal and sinful fake Christian and just make everyone feel better and that everything is ok, when it is not.
It seems like by not confessing to his wife it would be easier for him to fall into this particular sin over and over again. "Oops, I fell into that sin again. Well, I'll just confess to God like I always do, He'll forgive me and I'll make sure to hide it from the wife, because I'm so worried about hurting HER feelings. I love her too much to tell her the truth." It's a slippery slope there. And just imagine how the wife would feel later on if the affair came to light (as these things tend to do). That would make her far more hurt and distrustful of her husband than if he had confessed it too her. And I do find it interesting that hiding your affair only applies to men. Frankly I think this is less about caring about your wife's feelings and more about wanting to excuse deceiving your wife and staying out of trouble.
Some of you are naive beyond comprehension. A man makes up his own mind whether to disobey God's commands not to commit adultery, and to honor his marriage vows. As for the devil, I wonder how delighted he would be to find out the wife had contracted any number of many STD's and died from it?
Do you know anything about sexually transmitted diseases? Probably not, so I will let you know that they are incredibly common, and every person you have sex with, you are sleeping with every other person they have had sex with. So two virgins marrying is the ONLY time you will have a union that is free from disease. (We won't even get into the spiritual issues inherent in this kind of rampant dishonesty and lying within a marriage.)
Just for all of you who could even think for a moment that a man (or woman for that matter) is not under obligation to confess to a spouse of any extra marital affairs.
[h=2]STATISTICS ON SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS[/h]
Estimating how many sexually transmitted disease or infection cases occur is not a simple or straightforward task. First, most STDs/STIs can be "silent," causing no noticeable symptoms. These asymptomatic infections can be diagnosed only through testing. Unfortunately, routine screening programs are not widespread, and social stigma and lack of public awareness concerning STDs/STIs often inhibits frank discussion between health care providers and patients about STD/STI risk and the need for testing.
-- ASHA. Sexually Transmitted Diseases in America: How Many Cases and at What Cost? December 1998.
My suggestion is to spend more time in the Word of God, and less time watching tele-evangelists and preachers who are only preaching to itching ears. What a horrible thought that some husband would see this program as the "breakthrough" he has been waiting for to cheat on his wife and get away with it. Oh, I mean, confess it to God only! Human nature! And for women as well as men!
Do you know anything about sexually transmitted diseases? Probably not, so I will let you know that they are incredibly common, and every person you have sex with, you are sleeping with every other person they have had sex with. So two virgins marrying is the ONLY time you will have a union that is free from disease. (We won't even get into the spiritual issues inherent in this kind of rampant dishonesty and lying within a marriage.)
Just for all of you who could even think for a moment that a man (or woman for that matter) is not under obligation to confess to a spouse of any extra marital affairs.
[h=2]STATISTICS ON SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTIONS[/h]
Estimating how many sexually transmitted disease or infection cases occur is not a simple or straightforward task. First, most STDs/STIs can be "silent," causing no noticeable symptoms. These asymptomatic infections can be diagnosed only through testing. Unfortunately, routine screening programs are not widespread, and social stigma and lack of public awareness concerning STDs/STIs often inhibits frank discussion between health care providers and patients about STD/STI risk and the need for testing.
-- ASHA. Sexually Transmitted Diseases in America: How Many Cases and at What Cost? December 1998.
- More than half of all people will have an STD/STI at some point in their lifetime. [1]
- Recent estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Infection show that there are 19.7 million new STIs every year in the U.S. [2]
- In 2008, there were an estimated 110 million prevalent STIs among women and men in the U.S.. Of these, more than 20% (22.1 million) were among women and men aged 15 to 24 years. [2]
- The total estimated direct cost of STIs annually in the U.S. is $15.6 billion (2010 US dollars). [3]
- In a national survey of US physicians, fewer than one-third routinely screened patients for STDs/STIs. [4]
- Less than half of adults ages 18 to 44 have ever been tested for an STD/STI other than HIV/AIDS.
- Each year, one in four teens contracts an STD/STI. [5]
- One in two sexually active persons will contact an STD/STI by age 25. [6]
- About half of all new STDs/STIs in 2000 occurred among youth ages 15 to 24. [7] The total estimated costs of these nine million new cases of these STDs/STIs was $6.5 billion, with HIV and human papillomavirus (HPV) accounting for 90% of the total burden. [8]
- Of the STDs/STIs that are diagnosed, only some (gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, hepatitis A and B) are required to be reported to state health departments and the CDC.
My suggestion is to spend more time in the Word of God, and less time watching tele-evangelists and preachers who are only preaching to itching ears. What a horrible thought that some husband would see this program as the "breakthrough" he has been waiting for to cheat on his wife and get away with it. Oh, I mean, confess it to God only! Human nature! And for women as well as men!
I have read my Bible through over & over, times beyond counting. How about you?
Prov 11
"a man of understanding holds his peace.
He who goes about as a tale-bearer reveals secrets;
But he that is of a faithful spirit conceals a matter.
Love wife as self & vice versa.
Do what will bring the partner happiness.
Prov 11
"a man of understanding holds his peace.
He who goes about as a tale-bearer reveals secrets;
But he that is of a faithful spirit conceals a matter.
Love wife as self & vice versa.
Do what will bring the partner happiness.
D
Yes I know about STD's. And about screening for all STD's. Is there anyone else who contributed on this thread who doesn't know about STD's? Surely your broad range of knowledge and links are sufficient for training in this subject and we are now duly informed, and no longer naive 'beyond comprehension'.
Our convo here is not really about fleshly diseases which can occur as a result of sex, but yes your information is definitely a consideration. However your comment that we are ALL diseased if we aren't virgins sound suspect. Can you also supply a link to this information about all non- virgins being diseased?
Our convo here is not really about fleshly diseases which can occur as a result of sex, but yes your information is definitely a consideration. However your comment that we are ALL diseased if we aren't virgins sound suspect. Can you also supply a link to this information about all non- virgins being diseased?
