Will I ever learn to live again?

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Inquisative

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I am Over 50 and I've gone from a very blessed family, successful and lucrative life to an estranged child, that has forbidden any contact with my grandchildren, I lost my home, my job, my business, my friends…Thank God I have a husband of 33 years that has been with me through thick and thin.
 
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pastac

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The story of the prodical son comes to mind, Just keep praying that the Holy Spirit works in the earth concerning the estrangement and when the child returns have open arms.As for the home and job and business the story of Job comes to mind. You will be blessed again if you doubt not and keep your focus on the kingdom all else will be added unto you. Not easy I'm speaking from experience but doeable. Be blessed!
 
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You've lost more than i've ever had. And still have more than i do. Yet i still sustain. Surely you can too.
 

Angela53510

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50 is not that old! I started Seminary at age 52. But I am very sorry to hear about your estrangement. I had another friend this happened to and she was devastated. Plus, I think you are probably thinking about you cannot have any more children.

So my thought is to stick to your husband and Jesus. And write about it in a journal. And pray that somehow God will restore your child and grandchildren. Praying this happens soon.

As for the job and business, do you need to start over? Maybe God is calling you to something different?
 
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I have often thought about how my children reacted to the fair. We carefully budgeted so we could take them but explained that when the money ran out they must go home, and they weren't to cry about leaving but be happy they had fun there. They would promise to do that.

Each time they didn't feel pleasure about the time they had enjoyed, they cried because it was over.

I find myself doing this about life, even though I promised myself I wouldn't
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I think all we are living now is all what we ned to learn more, next life.

Pro 2:1 My child, learn what I teach you and never forget what I tell you to do.
Pro 2:2 Listen to what is wise and try to understand it.
Pro 2:3 Yes, beg for knowledge; plead for insight.
Pro 2:4 Look for it as hard as you would for silver or some hidden treasure.

Pro 3:19 The LORD created the earth by his wisdom; by his knowledge he set the sky in place.
Pro 3:20 His wisdom caused the rivers to flow and the clouds to give rain to the earth.
Pro 3:21 My child, hold on to your wisdom and insight. Never let them get away from you.
Pro 3:22 They will provide you with life---a pleasant and happy life.
Pro 3:23 You can go safely on your way and never even stumble.
Pro 3:24 You will not be afraid when you go to bed, and you will sleep soundly through the night.
Pro 3:25 You will not have to worry about sudden disasters, such as come on the wicked like a storm.
Pro 3:26 The LORD will keep you safe. He will not let you fall into a trap.
Pro 3:27 Whenever you possibly can, do good to those who need it.
Pro 3:28 Never tell your neighbors to wait until tomorrow if you can help them now.
 
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dabodab

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I am Over 50 and I've gone from a very blessed family, successful and lucrative life to an estranged child, that has forbidden any contact with my grandchildren, I lost my home, my job, my business, my friends…Thank God I have a husband of 33 years that has been with me through thick and thin.
You are blessed. God has given you a great marriage. Hang onto that! Just read a few of our divorce threads. Some May like to be in your shoes. Really.

Estrangement from child and grandchildren is tough, I'm so sorry. My daughter was just barely tolerating me recently for the first time. It hurt. She was having growing pains and figuring stuff out. I gave her space and now she is returning to me. Someone told me early on that I would have to have a strong spine to deal with it. More than that, I trusted that God did not want us estranged and prayed for her and for our relationship. Eventually God did a work there without my help! Only I had to be obedient and not harangue her. God can and will change your circumstances. Pray pray pray. I'll stand with you too, Inquisative. On my prayer list now.
 
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dabodab

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@ RedTent, oh just BLESS you! You are mourning stuff and not holding back. Though your late years are filled with wonderful fellowship with the Lord (I have read other posts of yours), you are not beyond human suffering because of it That is great news for those of us who think that in our later years everything will be figgered out. It won't! Not a shame at all. You have a very heartfelt love for your family and I already know, for our Lord. Thanks for your testimony and you are on my prayer list.

@ solique, your testimony about raising your daughter is almost identical to mine, at least what you've shared. Give your daughter space and time, but DO NOT give up on a relationship with her. Text her that you are thinking about her and love her. Ask her forgiveness for specific sins you may have committed against her. Humble yourself completely, being careful not to cower. Send her flowers. Speak well of her to everyone. Most of all, pray for her and your relationship with her, and above all let her see Jesus in your life. These will NOT fail you. God truly bless you with His love for your daughter, and discernment.
 
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I am Over 50 and I've gone from a very blessed family, successful and lucrative life to an estranged child, that has forbidden any contact with my grandchildren, I lost my home, my job, my business, my friends…Thank God I have a husband of 33 years that has been with me through thick and thin.
I'm 23 and I learned very early on that selflessness is a rarity in life. I don't feel like anybody really cares that much and that makes me sad. I've lost so much that was important to me and realized I never owned any of it to begin with.

The truth is, humans, even those with the nicest labels or surface beliefs, or lives, or who have everything a person could ask for, still suffer just like I do. The truth is that there is no relief. We suffer every single day and when it ends then it ends, and we wake up again and so it begins again.

We can pretend. We can call this attitude of mine morbid, depressive, or whatever, but we do so because we're afraid it's true that suffering is everywhere, everyday. Because if it is, what's there to live for?

Accept that it's true, and the things to live for might actually become apparent to you.

We hide underneath façades and temporary bliss. We say 'aw there's no need to be so glum' and then we focus all our attention on something else. But nomatter what we focus on, the problem remains. Life is tough. It hurts. And whether people want to hear it or not, the truth is that hurt is what lies beneath us all.

There is no escaping it, however much we turn our heads. So face it. Accept it. Know it. Embrace it.

You can hope in vain that suffering magically ends or you can accept that it's an unavoidable part of life and go forward from there to find your truth.
 
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pastac

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23 and I learned very early on that selflessness is a rarity in life. I don't feel like anybody really cares that much and that makes me sad. I've lost so much that was important to me and realized I never owned any of it to begin with.

The truth is, humans, even those with the nicest labels or surface beliefs, or lives, or who have everything a person could ask for, still suffer just like I do. The truth is that there is no relief. We suffer every single day and when it ends then it ends, and we wake up again and so it begins again.

We can pretend. We can call this attitude of mine morbid, depressive, or whatever, but we do so because we're afraid it's true that suffering is everywhere, everyday. Because if it is, what's there to live for?

Accept that it's true, and the things to live for might actually become apparent to you.

We hide underneath façades and temporary bliss. We say 'aw there's no need to be so glum' and then we focus all our attention on something else. But nomatter what we focus on, the problem remains. Life is tough. It hurts. And whether people want to hear it or not, the truth is that hurt is what lies beneath us all.

There is no escaping it, however much we turn our heads. So face it. Accept it. Know it. Embrace it.

You can hope in vain that suffering magically ends or you can accept that it's an unavoidable part of life and go forward from there to find your truth.
First off your tone saddens me. You speak like we have no help and must accept whatever comes our way. Correct me if this is not your stance but you left several ways to interpret you words.There is no way to say it but I must speak truth. This is not by magic! as you stated. This is by the divine intervention of the Holy Spirit that was left in the earth as our comforter to handle what we cant. Of course we pretend some even fake it and never make it because the focus is on it! whatever it is.

You are wrong in your thinking no one cares, if I did not care I would not respond so know this several people care about you and pray for you as a believer if you are, and even if you are not that you would become one. Depression is not of God or at least not the Big G God. The god of this world has a foothold in depression but that is another teaching. What is there to live for? Duh well everything or else how could you type your obviously pain filled words.

Your hurt is shared by many as are your feelings. Just know you are not alone. You made so many statements that are negative and that may be due to your attitude of pain or just your current station but it gets better. You have no idea that the world is full of testimonies like yours but the Bible speaks of endurance and giving thanks in all conditions and things.

No it is not easy. Yes you are hurting but let me share this. You have given yourself the answer but your lack of clarity has you unable to see it so I'll help if I can. FOCUS ON SOMETHING ELSE!!!! Your words ! That something else can be Christ if you are a believer and needs to be so and all else will be added to you. Don't know your position in Christ but know he is able to meet all your needs and heal your hurts and I will be praying that for you!
 
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dabodab

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Dabodab, thank you, I'll keep that advice in mind. She did try to make up not long ago - she sent me a gift with a note, apologizing for being so grumpy, and we were texting each other. But, instead of taking it slow, I went around to her house expecting a big happy reunion, but she told me to "F off" and threatened me not to come around again. Afterward, she texted, and said i blew it, and was to pushy, and she hasn't spoken to me since. It's the silent treatment and not knowing my grand kids that hurts. She sees her Dad regularly. The "silent treatment" or ignoring, is something she learned off her Dad. His own siblings ignore each other also, and walk past each other as strangers in the street, (same with their mother - she was disowned by must of them after a divorce). Anyway........ My daughter has moved back here from the city only recently. I haven't bumped into her yet.....This whole cycle needs to be broken, there's no need for it. Just six years ago, she was saying she loved me in notes daily. We were really close.

Anyway, thanks. Sorry to ramble.
No! You're not rambling at all. It's frustrating sometimes how grown children treat their parents. It sounds like she isn't walking with Jesus or she wouldn't be cursing at you. In that case pray that God moves in her heart and she is drawn to Him and his love, that He would send someone into her life who knows Him. Cause that's probably not going to be us...though we can love them with God's love, alright. And who cares who leads our kids to Christ? Just so they come.

It's obvious you care for her. Never stop showing her how much. We're gonna make mistakes. Forgive yourself and move forward. I think part of my daughters problem was she always had me on a pedistol and when she started really growing up she realized I wasn't that perfect person she thought. Part of that was my fault for not admitting my mistakes and always having to be 'right'. I remember asking God to let her see my heart....that I truly love her, despite her temporary ill feelings towards me. Sometimes when young ladies are treated badly, either by us or someone else, it's hard for them to see who does and who doesn't really care for them. I went thru that when I was young. Did you?

Anyways just never give up praying for her. On your knees praying! It works.
 

lncy

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I am Over 50 and I've gone from a very blessed family, successful and lucrative life to an estranged child, that has forbidden any contact with my grandchildren, I lost my home, my job, my business, my friends…Thank God I have a husband of 33 years that has been with me through thick and thin.
As bad as things are, we're never given more on our plate that we can handle. I had this conversation with my housemate last night because she was feeling a bit overwhelmed with goings on in her life.

You can either hold on to a loss (as contradictory as that may sound!) or you can let it go. Sometimes losses are a good thing. They allow for fresh starts and new directions. And yes, thank God for your husband by your side.
 
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dabodab

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Hi. Thanks.

My Daughter got involved with a 21 year old - when she was only 13... and also got in with the wrong crowd... and skipped school, and hung out at a woman's house... known to the school and police. Anyway.... I went to the police, and the school.. and she hated me for that. But she forgave me recently, then I pushed it by visiting her when she wasn't ready. She WILL talk to me again (by text I assume) sooner or later. But it has been difficult. We only had one fight.. and she ran away. I failed as a parent I could have done things better - I could have put myself in her shoes.. because I went through similar (though I was 15, but became a young mother just as she is). We will be close one day. All I can do is hope and pray.

I'll say no more though. Thank you for your thoughts :)
Solique, I hear your struggle loud and clear. You are praying and available to do whatever is necessary to have a relationship with your daughter. Just one fight and she's gone, that's really harsh and I'm so sorry. Do not lose heart or faint over this! She and you are young and God has a plan for you both.

Sounds like our daughters are alike in some ways. Mine also had a boyfriend who was much older (21) when she was 15. I sent her to live with her dad because that was my only solution since I was a very ignorant, foolish mom. And my daughter... she WAS the wrong crowd. She went to 6 high schools, was expelled from two and one begged me to send her somewhere else. This is more my testimony than hers though, because she was so damaged by drugs she barely remembers her teen years.

Now, my daughter has been sober most of the last 11 years (she is 29). She will graduate nursing school in December. Things can change!

You seem to be quite in love with your daughter. Rejoice! Not all Mother's feel that way about wayward children. God has a plan for her. I am putting her and you on my prayer list.

Please feel free to Send a PM if you'd like to chat more.
 
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jogoldie

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Hello my sister....Im reading this and thinking your daughter sounds like me....she started alot younger....but its
pretty close....so I would like you to know how I felt back then.......
I dont think that she doesnt want to be close to you.......I think she can,t......not yet.....but with your help....soon....
To face you she must face herself.....you and the perfectness she perceives you to be.....she feels you will judge
her.....even if you don,t she thinks you will......she thinks that she will never be good enough to make you proud...
that being a disappointment all the time is too much .....an endless fight......
All of us stumble through this parent thing.....did we get it right....not always......did we mess them up....maybe....
But we do our best and with the help of God we get through.......
Do you remember being a young mother and realizing that your mother must have been a saint......how could she
sacrifice for so long ....for people who dont even appreciate us....but we do....
when you get a chance ask your daughter for her advice on something.......she needs to hear silly stories of mistakes
you made as a young mother....let her see your imperfections....get to know her as a woman....make her opinion matter...
Look at her children and tell her well done....you did good....soon the trust will return and you will have a grown up
relationship with her.....
Im praying for you my friend......you can pm me if you want to talk.....
May peace and joy find you soon.....jo
 
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I liked dabodab's comment and would echo that sentiment, especially that it seems you are blessed with a good husband indeed, and I would add, show your love for your husband for that and for Jesus and though the going be rough right now, I think God will do something good for you. Until then have patience and love.