do we go to heaven when we die after living a spiritual life?

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goodnewsanonomys

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After doing biblical research I'm so astonished to why people believe we go to heaven if we take christ into our lives..when we die we DO NOT go to heaven..ill explain in ecclesiastes 9:5 "for the living know that they will die; but the dead know nothing". Psalm 146:4 "His breath goeth forth, he returned to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish". How bout this one john 3:13 "no one has ascended to heaven but he who came down from heaven,that is, the son of man is in heaven". If that's not enough read the story on lazarus and that's a perfect example to what happens when we die.
 
Joidevivre

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Now read II Tim 4:18. As for me, I don't care what place you call it, but Jesus said that I would be with Him forever. And if he reigns in heaven, well......
 
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Fishbait

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goodnewsanonomys said:
After doing biblical research I'm so astonished to why people believe we go to heaven if we take christ into our lives..when we die we DO NOT go to heaven..ill explain in ecclesiastes 9:5 "for the living know that they will die; but the dead know nothing". Psalm 146:4 "His breath goeth forth, he returned to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish". How bout this one john 3:13 "no one has ascended to heaven but he who came down from heaven,that is, the son of man is in heaven". If that's not enough read the story on lazarus and that's a perfect example to what happens when we die.
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What happens to believers when they die? Paul uses sleep to refer to their state, but does this mean that believers experience (for lack of a better word) an unconscious sleep-like state until the future resurrection? Those who advocate this position, called soul sleep, base it on passages such as 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18. But it should be noted that “sleep” as used here is euphemistic. It is not meant to convey actual sleep. In fact, the experience of the believer after death and before the end of the age when Christ returns is conscious, blissful communion with the Lord. Paul hints at this in 2 Corinthians 5:6–8 and Philippians 1:23.

At death, the body lies in repose in the grave awaiting the resurrection of the last day, but the soul goes to be at home with the Lord. This is the doctrine of the intermediate state. Believers experience in a provisional sense the rewards that await them in heaven, while unbelievers experience a taste of their eternal torment in hell (Luke 16:19–31).


Read more: Who are the dead in Christ in 1 Thessalonians 4:16?​
 
notuptome

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Well we must be reconciled to God by Jesus Christ to enter into eternal life. Living a spiritual life could mean a lot of things but Jesus said you must be born again.

The apostle Paul said to absent from the body was to be present with the Lord. To be absent from the body is to be dead physically. To be with the Lord is to be wherever Jesus is which is in heaven.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Fenner

Fenner

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Why is this in the family forum?
 
Angela53510

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We go to be with Jesus after we die because we believe in him. NOT because of living a "spiritual" life, whatever that is!
 
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