Unequally Yoked

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Voiceman

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Okay, so I was asked by my friend's daughter who is like a daughter to me to marry her and her boyfriend. I am not a pastor but have been given a temp. license to marry in my province. Although I witnessed most of her younger days and even attended a Christian university with her as I was updating my education, didn't expect that her boyfriend wasn't a believer. While I know well what the Bible says about being unequally yoked, I feel I was led to believe otherwise until we got into our third session of pre-marital counselling. I've now realized that it should've been the FIRST question and that I shouldn't have assumed anything. They are living together and the wedding is only 6 weeks away. I asked her what she would do if he chose not to become a believer and she said she chose not to believe that would happen and that she has faith that eventually he would come around...

Is there anyone out there who might have some insight on how to approach it from here? I know it needs to be confronted, I realize the spiritual weight of this situation for both of them and I want to put Christ first. Some would say "Hey, get them married, help them to get out of living in sin" but if he's not a believer... anyone wanna tackle this with me?
 
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Gandalf

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Voiceman, this is the way that I would handle the situation:

  1. My responsibility will be towards the person closest to me (your friend’s daughter). I would first of all set up a meeting with her alone and explain to her (like a father would) why she is making a mistake. Do not force the issue because she will run away from the confrontation or get somebody else to marry them.
  2. Then with the girl’s permission I would chat to the guy explaining to him from a Christian perspective what the Bible says about this. But when you are speaking to him it might be a good idea to have a third (independent Christian) person present that can mediate and witness what is said.
  3. Then I will meet with both of them and talk to them about your concerns. If they still believe that they are doing the right thing I will proceed with the wedding as planned.
Nothing that you say or do will change their minds but trust the Holy Spirit to work with both of them. Also mediate the situation like an outsider instead of like a friend. That will always keep your opinion objective, AND never judge them.

Good luck and God bless.
 

Joidevivre

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The only reason that I turned a couple away from marrying them was when I saw physical and verbal abuse from the man. I could not see God blessing such a union that was abusive. In this case, it is the girls' choice and she knows the risks she is taking. Being a christian, maybe she discerns that she is to be this man's wife. Make that marriage ceremony into a focus on Christ and how he will bless them. After all, that girl sanctifies the man by marrying him. I Cor. 7:14. You have a wonderful opportunity to bring the love of Christ into their ceremony. And your prayers for them will be heard and acted upon.

Far better that you do this ceremony than some justice of the peace that might not bring Christ into the picture.
 

crossnote

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As a pastor (and I'm not) I would tell her I could only in good conscience, and in obedience to God's Word, marry believers.
 

tribesman

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Not good for a believer to marry an unbeliever...and, whatever she says, she do not know the first thing if he will get saved or not along the road. I think counseling her to avoid it is the best thing still to do...if ever possible she would hear it. Knowing that those deeply in love in such situations will not like to hear such...even they can get a grasp its correct. Not easy. Be careful and prayerful...involve some elders and deacons. All done peacefully and lovingly. That's my two cents.
 

tribesman

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The only reason that I turned a couple away from marrying them was when I saw physical and verbal abuse from the man. I could not see God blessing such a union that was abusive. In this case, it is the girls' choice and she knows the risks she is taking. Being a christian, maybe she discerns that she is to be this man's wife. Make that marriage ceremony into a focus on Christ and how he will bless them. After all, that girl sanctifies the man by marrying him. I Cor. 7:14. You have a wonderful opportunity to bring the love of Christ into their ceremony. And your prayers for them will be heard and acted upon.

Far better that you do this ceremony than some justice of the peace that might not bring Christ into the picture.
Believe it or not, there are situations where the woman is abusive both physically and verbally to the man. Maybe very rare in US...but in other cultures and places.
 

crossnote

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Believe it or not, there are situations where the woman is abusive both physically and verbally to the man. Maybe very rare in US...but in other cultures and places.
Believe it or not? My wife told me 'that's just the way it is'. :p
 

tribesman

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Believe it or not? My wife told me 'that's just the way it is'. :p
So the feminist propaganda of women as innocent victim angels at the hands of brute beast men is not correct? Domestic violence against men...what a surprise for the politically correct.
 
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I knew someone like that. She was raised in a Baptist household, he a Catholic one but turned atheist in his later years.
They married regardless, she thinking she could change him.

Instead, her devotion to her faith made him upset, short tempered, and abusive after the honeymoon stage wore off. Which was a little over a year.
Then he started to mock her, he resented her trying to lead him to Christ, even when she stopped being forthright in that area and thought her home bible study, going to church alone, etc... would show him the way as he simply observed her living her faith.

At the ten year mark, with no children as yet, she finally surrendered when he spit on her bible as she laid it on the night stand beside the bed. He told her quite forthrightly that her "holier than thou" attitude made him want to vomit. And that if she didn't stop next he'd burn the damn thing. Referring to her bible.

Divorce was the best move she ever made. And totally within scripture.

After her divorce, about two years or so, she met a man at a soup kitchen her church had started to sponsor. He worked nearby and had just started to do charity work in the local community.

They've been together for nearly five years now and when I see her she looks like someone turned a light on behind her face. She glows with the joy of living with someone who is not that someone the bible tells us is damned unless they repent.

If I were you I'd talk to the daughter in a fatherly manner. Showing her the scriptures that relate to being unequally yoked, those scriptures that speak of how God knows and calls his own to him. Then I'd ask her to test the chances of his ever coming round by suggesting she invite him to church with her. She has six weeks, so she has six weeks to ask and see what he says every time.

Also, ask her to consider asking him to study the bible with her, or attend a bible study group, if she's member of one.
How he responds tells her where his heart is at in matters of her faith. If he doesn't respect her faith how can he respect she who holds it?



Okay, so I was asked by my friend's daughter who is like a daughter to me to marry her and her boyfriend. I am not a pastor but have been given a temp. license to marry in my province. Although I witnessed most of her younger days and even attended a Christian university with her as I was updating my education, didn't expect that her boyfriend wasn't a believer. While I know well what the Bible says about being unequally yoked, I feel I was led to believe otherwise until we got into our third session of pre-marital counselling. I've now realized that it should've been the FIRST question and that I shouldn't have assumed anything. They are living together and the wedding is only 6 weeks away. I asked her what she would do if he chose not to become a believer and she said she chose not to believe that would happen and that she has faith that eventually he would come around...

Is there anyone out there who might have some insight on how to approach it from here? I know it needs to be confronted, I realize the spiritual weight of this situation for both of them and I want to put Christ first. Some would say "Hey, get them married, help them to get out of living in sin" but if he's not a believer... anyone wanna tackle this with me?
 
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Okay, so I was asked by my friend's daughter who is like a daughter to me to marry her and her boyfriend. I am not a pastor but have been given a temp. license to marry in my province. Although I witnessed most of her younger days and even attended a Christian university with her as I was updating my education, didn't expect that her boyfriend wasn't a believer. While I know well what the Bible says about being unequally yoked, I feel I was led to believe otherwise until we got into our third session of pre-marital counselling. I've now realized that it should've been the FIRST question and that I shouldn't have assumed anything. They are living together and the wedding is only 6 weeks away. I asked her what she would do if he chose not to become a believer and she said she chose not to believe that would happen and that she has faith that eventually he would come around...

Is there anyone out there who might have some insight on how to approach it from here? I know it needs to be confronted, I realize the spiritual weight of this situation for both of them and I want to put Christ first. Some would say "Hey, get them married, help them to get out of living in sin" but if he's not a believer... anyone wanna tackle this with me?
Ask her why she's marrying him. Just because he's not christian doesn't mean it can't work, but she needs to accept he may never become Christian. If she's marrying him to save him, or change him, it's gonna end disastrously, but if she's marrying him because she loves him, he loves her, and because they have many commonalities in personality then I would recommend they focus on cultivating those rather than focus on issues of religion.
 

r20

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No marrying unbelievers. Relationships are hard enough, you don't want to do it unbalanced.
 

notuptome

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Let's examine the options. Marry them even though God's word says don't or don't marry them and be obedient to God. Do we believe God or wish to follow man's wisdom? Is God to be mocked? Do we know better than God?

For him to know to do right and not to do it to him it is sin.

Do you really need a talking donkey to give you the message?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

santuzza

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Well, I'm a woman and therefore would never be in the position to perform a marriage ceremony, but with that said, I wouldn't marry them. And I would tell them why -- It's a disaster waiting to happen. There are currently several women in my church who have married unbelievers -- they ALL regret it. One woman has been married to her hubby for over 30 years, and he is still an adamant agnostic.

Additionally, there is the question of raising the children. Would the father be willing to allow his kids to be raised in the church? He may say so now, but he may change his mind later.

It's a ticking time-bomb. Without shared faith-values, the marriage is doomed for rocky ground.
 
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What about the idea that an unsaved spouse is saved by being married to a saved spouse?
 
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Okay, so I was asked by my friend's daughter who is like a daughter to me to marry her and her boyfriend. I am not a pastor but have been given a temp. license to marry in my province. Although I witnessed most of her younger days and even attended a Christian university with her as I was updating my education, didn't expect that her boyfriend wasn't a believer. While I know well what the Bible says about being unequally yoked, I feel I was led to believe otherwise until we got into our third session of pre-marital counselling. I've now realized that it should've been the FIRST question and that I shouldn't have assumed anything. They are living together and the wedding is only 6 weeks away. I asked her what she would do if he chose not to become a believer and she said she chose not to believe that would happen and that she has faith that eventually he would come around...

Is there anyone out there who might have some insight on how to approach it from here? I know it needs to be confronted, I realize the spiritual weight of this situation for both of them and I want to put Christ first. Some would say "Hey, get them married, help them to get out of living in sin" but if he's not a believer... anyone wanna tackle this with me?
You are to be faithful to the word of God no to her, you do what God expects you to do which is not participating of that mistaken choice, and tell her why she is doing bad and what kind of consequences she will have to face someday all of this in love of course.
 

Dan58

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"If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?" (1 Corinthians 7:12-16)
 

santuzza

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I think those verses above refer to spouses who become saved during the marriage. These verses are not advocating for an unequal marriage -- that's why we have the other verse that talks about not being unequally yoked.
 

Joidevivre

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Most ministers will have quite a few sessions of premarital counseling - usually about 4 to 6 weeks. During that time, they will observe the values and natures of each person. They will also determine whether one person is adamantly opposed to Christianity or just not sure what they believe. There is quite a difference here. And they would question the unbeliever's views on feeling comfortable with the partner's participation in church activities and raising the children in that faith. All these things would be taken into consideration, and then the minister would follow the leading of the Holy Spirit if he/she would perform that wedding.

Since most protestant ministers absolutely require biblical premarital counseling, if an unbeliever objects to this, the minister probably would not do the wedding anyway.
 

JimJimmers

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Why would an atheist be exasperated at Christians asking questions related to Christianity on a Christian forum? The real puzzler here is why an obnoxious atheist would want to show up and mock the people for asking. I am just going to put it down to mental illness on your part.