Thoughts on Christians who play platform games ps3 Xbox etc
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Not you, some others here, but I still don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to video games. The Holy Spirit sometimes convicts us personally about things and not others about the same things. This is one of those times. No, of course the Enemy comes in different guises. When I was a child, I wasn't allowed to play mature games because they were for mature audiences and I think that was a wise parental choice on part of mum and dad. Yes, I do believe some games have an adverse effect on their players. No, I don't think games are to blame for all of the violence in children, teenagers and some adults. You propose to know me, but you don't. I generally play real-time-strategy games and my favourite series is a stealth adventure. I find the point and shoot FPS to be dull and uncreative. They often rely on shock value, rather than good game-play (they never really promise a good story). I play a few games that could be considered violent but I have no interest in gorey games like those you mentioned. I'm all for being discerning in media (I'm a great advocate of it) but could you be a little less quick to judge, please? God's Truth is a double-edged sword but it's informed by His great love for us.
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I'm going based on the Word, brother. And I do consider you to be a brother. I admire a lot of what you say, but I disagree vehemently with about half of what you say--and you'd probably say something similar concerning me.
You may see nothing wrong with something but there could still very well be something glaringly wrong with it. I'm sure you have discovered things in your life that were obviously and blatantly evil but you didn't notice it either until someone pointed it out or it just hit you one day.
Do you truly think it is wrong for me to sound the alarm against things that the Word warns us against? I can see that everyone needs to fight their own battle. But I'm just here to warn people to ensure that they are actually following hard after Christ and not making excuses and sleeping on the job.
Generally speaking, from what I have seen, the gamer group are not the folks that are following hard after Christ. They are the ones who are the struggle bus. Finding it hard to find solid prayer time and to get into the Word. These are generally not the men and women (or the young men and women) who are bright and shining pillars of faith. These are not the ones who you would take on as your mentors. Generally speaking this is the spiritually immature crowd that needs milk and not meat.
I'm not here to judge everyone but I ask for you to judge for yourselves if my words are false then cast them to the side. But if they are true, then forget about me. Forget about any arrogance that I may have or any ignorance on my part. Just do what is right and seek after God.
You may see nothing wrong with something but there could still very well be something glaringly wrong with it. I'm sure you have discovered things in your life that were obviously and blatantly evil but you didn't notice it either until someone pointed it out or it just hit you one day.
Do you truly think it is wrong for me to sound the alarm against things that the Word warns us against? I can see that everyone needs to fight their own battle. But I'm just here to warn people to ensure that they are actually following hard after Christ and not making excuses and sleeping on the job.
Generally speaking, from what I have seen, the gamer group are not the folks that are following hard after Christ. They are the ones who are the struggle bus. Finding it hard to find solid prayer time and to get into the Word. These are generally not the men and women (or the young men and women) who are bright and shining pillars of faith. These are not the ones who you would take on as your mentors. Generally speaking this is the spiritually immature crowd that needs milk and not meat.
I'm not here to judge everyone but I ask for you to judge for yourselves if my words are false then cast them to the side. But if they are true, then forget about me. Forget about any arrogance that I may have or any ignorance on my part. Just do what is right and seek after God.
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One post can say a lot. Especially if it is one that is patting a non-Christian (my guess is likely atheist or agnostic) for making a moral call that was quite liberal in nature and ensuring her how we can learn from non-Christians.
I didn't see people patting that one atheist on the back who said that you shouldn't feel bad about having sex before marriage. In fact, I said something quite similarly denouncing his ability to make moral decisions when he has no true moral standard. But the fact that I have an opinion that disagrees with the flesh and the popular opinion here will spare me no criticism. Even if I'm just following what the Bible says.
I didn't see people patting that one atheist on the back who said that you shouldn't feel bad about having sex before marriage. In fact, I said something quite similarly denouncing his ability to make moral decisions when he has no true moral standard. But the fact that I have an opinion that disagrees with the flesh and the popular opinion here will spare me no criticism. Even if I'm just following what the Bible says.
Here's a Scripture verse -
Phillipians 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
Is Call of Duty noble, pure right and lovely and admirable? Is it excellent or praiseworthy to share with every other Christian?
Those are some questions you could ask yourself.
Honestly my thoughts are, I feel sorry for the people who spend all their time playing "addictive" video games.
Yes video games are addictive.
While there are disputes whether video games may or may not influence violence (numerous studies for and against this conclusion exist) , Video game addiction is a recognized form of psychological disorder, by the American Psychiatric Association.
For those of you who try to pass it off as harmless, all I have to say is , you sow what you reap.
If numbing your mind by playing games that lower your mental perception and capacity is very fruitful for you, then good for you.
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I choose to learn in every way I am capable.
From all of Gods creation.
From his animals who know nothing of his laws written on our hearts
To people who don't realize Gods laws are written in their hearts but still their actions speak more clearly than some of Our own Christian words.
For example, I have a friend who doesn't claim to be a Christian.
He drinks more than in moderation, has extramarital relationships, cusses etc.
Why am I a friend to him?
Because in many ways I am the only influence of Christ as well as just general friendship.
But at the same time while he is a heathen, more than most of us by Christian standards.
He is the type of guy who says...hey if you need anything my garage door is unlocked.
Comes by about once a week just to say hi and see hows it going. No other reason.
Might bring by some fresh deer meat after a hunt just to share the wealth of blessing..
Rarely asks for a favor in return and doesn't get upset if a favor is not able to be returned at that particular time.
We respect each other and I've let it be known that I've prayed for him.
From that friend, I also learn from...he does more good by managing his friendships than most Christians do including myself.
When many others are too busy, he makes time.
So here's the thing...
While it is true these behaviors can be mimicked by an enemy so as to deceive.
One doesn't have to be a Christian
1. to exhibit Godly or respectful behavior or
2. for us to notice and admire such in another.
I seen a bear on youtube fish a drowning crow out of the water with its paw.
Does the bear need to be a Christian for us to admire his behavior?
Crow rescue - YouTube
What would be your take on Rahab the Harlot who was spared for her redeeming behavior toward Gods people?
Hebrews 11:
[SUP]31 [/SUP]By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.
Phil 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
When we open our eyes to see we may learn more from all of Gods creation than what mere words can teach.
From all of Gods creation.
From his animals who know nothing of his laws written on our hearts
To people who don't realize Gods laws are written in their hearts but still their actions speak more clearly than some of Our own Christian words.
For example, I have a friend who doesn't claim to be a Christian.
He drinks more than in moderation, has extramarital relationships, cusses etc.
Why am I a friend to him?
Because in many ways I am the only influence of Christ as well as just general friendship.
But at the same time while he is a heathen, more than most of us by Christian standards.
He is the type of guy who says...hey if you need anything my garage door is unlocked.
Comes by about once a week just to say hi and see hows it going. No other reason.
Might bring by some fresh deer meat after a hunt just to share the wealth of blessing..
Rarely asks for a favor in return and doesn't get upset if a favor is not able to be returned at that particular time.
We respect each other and I've let it be known that I've prayed for him.
From that friend, I also learn from...he does more good by managing his friendships than most Christians do including myself.
When many others are too busy, he makes time.
So here's the thing...
While it is true these behaviors can be mimicked by an enemy so as to deceive.
One doesn't have to be a Christian
1. to exhibit Godly or respectful behavior or
2. for us to notice and admire such in another.
I seen a bear on youtube fish a drowning crow out of the water with its paw.
Does the bear need to be a Christian for us to admire his behavior?
Crow rescue - YouTube
What would be your take on Rahab the Harlot who was spared for her redeeming behavior toward Gods people?
Hebrews 11:
[SUP]31 [/SUP]By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.
Phil 4:8
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
When we open our eyes to see we may learn more from all of Gods creation than what mere words can teach.
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My friend, a bear is not teaching you morality. And furthermore, it is not teaching you to lean on the permissible/liberal side. When it comes to morality, we should be taught of Christ--not of Dawkins, Nietzsche, and Stephen Hawking.
If you are grounding your morality based on the word of man and of this world, then you are building on sinking sand. In fact, you just like a person's comment that debunked what the non-Christian girl just said.
For an atheist or agnostic or non-Christian to presume to teach on morality in a Christian site is like me little old half-college educated me logging on to a WebMD forum as an admin and presuming to teach people on complicated medicines when not only do I not have a degree, the most I know about medicine is that you take it when you're sick.
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My friend, a bear is not teaching you morality. And furthermore, it is not teaching you to lean on the permissible/liberal side. When it comes to morality, we should be taught of Christ--not of Dawkins, Nietzsche, and Stephen Hawking.
Yes he was because I probably would have watched the crow drown and been all....
Awww poor crow...oh well Gods will.
If you are grounding your morality based on the word of man and of this world, then you are building on sinking sand. In fact, you just like a person's comment that debunked what the non-Christian girl just said.
Yes he was because I probably would have watched the crow drown and been all....
Awww poor crow...oh well Gods will.
If you are grounding your morality based on the word of man and of this world, then you are building on sinking sand. In fact, you just like a person's comment that debunked what the non-Christian girl just said.
Okay...I will like your last post too because you have a point that I also liked what Rachel said about becoming influenced to something by repeated exposure to it.
Speaking of repeated influence..do you know how non-Christians most often come to Christ?
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-brushes tear away- That's what I wanted all along. Just one like....Ha ha.
Yup, I realize. And I also realize that it is necessary to be charitable to all of God's creation. However, I do not feel it is charitable to allow someone to continue in the wrong direction. In this method, no one will be converted. The reason I became a Christian is not because someone took me to a coffee house or a midnight pancake breakfast at my college. In fact compromise and "seeker-friendliness" in the church has almost caused my spiritual destruction on multiple occasions. It's because I heard the Gospel preached and it had that distinct ring of truth to it even though it cut my heart to ribbons. Ya know?
Yup, I realize. And I also realize that it is necessary to be charitable to all of God's creation. However, I do not feel it is charitable to allow someone to continue in the wrong direction. In this method, no one will be converted. The reason I became a Christian is not because someone took me to a coffee house or a midnight pancake breakfast at my college. In fact compromise and "seeker-friendliness" in the church has almost caused my spiritual destruction on multiple occasions. It's because I heard the Gospel preached and it had that distinct ring of truth to it even though it cut my heart to ribbons. Ya know?
M
I also understand confronting and correcting our brothers and sisters to sharpen them as well as ourselves.
But non-believers don't seem to understand or respond well to this unless knowing and loving God
We are good to keep in mind that before another chooses to care what we know,
they first need to know how much we care.
If someone is rejected before even entering the house...why would they want to fight to get in?
Ya know?
But non-believers don't seem to understand or respond well to this unless knowing and loving God
We are good to keep in mind that before another chooses to care what we know,
they first need to know how much we care.
If someone is rejected before even entering the house...why would they want to fight to get in?
Ya know?
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Yessir, I do know. I don't intend to reject anybody except for those who are claim to be following Christ but are hardened in sin and can't nobody tell them nothing.
One of the most difficult problem with sites like these, though, is that unbelievers tend to cling to certain threads and friends in which and through whom their sin is never confronted and the believers act just as unconverted as the unbelievers do. So if they stick in threads talking about video games, music, movies, & etc and I usually stick in threads talking about Christ and issues within the Church and then we happen upon each other one day, I don't want to just pat them on the head, I want to give them the Gospel--not just a trite saying like "God loves you!" I'm sure they get that in their threads as it is. The Gospel message goes so much deeper than that, starting with the depravity and sinfulness within the human heart (the punishment of which is eternal damnation and separation from God) and ending with the purity of Jesus which, through the cross, washes us free from the sin that we ourselves cannot get rid of through our own merit or good works (The reward of which is eternal true life starting the day of conversion).
See, in my earlier comment I was NOT saying we shouldn't be speaking truth, just in case you couldn't tell from my comments, it's just once you start talking the "you should follow what God told me" stuff it starts an argument (not a discussion) and shuts them down to what we are saying defiantly. If we just voice our revelations (see not just saying it's ok) in a way that says how Gods lead US to view it, God will open the hearts of the ones He sees fit, and the rest will read your comment and ignore it without attacking. Anyone who has a honest question can ask without having to navigate the angry mob. I am not trying to tell you what to do, just letting you know my view. One more time for the record, I agree with everything you're saying, and am not suggesting you don't say it, we can just word it in a way that speaks to those who may need it, and doesn't start pointless, unfruitful conflict.
