The PRAISE and WORSHIP Idols: CCM, The Beatles, and Rome's Ecumenical Agenda

[ChosenbyHim]

The PRAISE and WORSHIP Idols: CCM, The Beatles, and Rome's Ecumenical Agenda


Great Study and Teaching by Brother Brian Moonan:


[video=youtube_share;0NGy51mB12w]http://youtu.be/0NGy51mB12w[/video]


CCM rockers idolize secular rock n' roll, especially The Beatles. If their musical inspiration comes from lost men with unclean spirits, the Holy Spirit cannot be involved. (Also, Rome uses CCM as the main force behind their ecumenical agenda to bring unity back under the "Mother church".) LINK to PART TWO Podcast:

http://www.turnfromyouridols.com/Podc...

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[posthuman]

ain't no beatles influence in unblack metal.

ain't no money either. that's OK tho - 'i don't care too much for money; money can't buy me love'

 

[Nautilus]

another useless video, by a deluded useless man, on a stupid topic. Chosen when will you stop pushing these cultist friends of yours and start living in the love and freedom that Christ offers to you?

 

[posthuman]

"tell me that you want the kind of things
that money just can't buy"

 

[sealabeag]

What is CCM, just out of curiosity?

 

[Tintin]

CCM = Contemporary Christian Music, maybe?

Or it could be Corn Chips with Mustard.

 

[Roh_Chris]

What is Cee Cee Em?

 

[Tintin]

What is Cee Cee Em?

Like I said earlier, Cows Communicate Melodically.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

another useless video, by a deluded useless man, on a stupid topic. Chosen when will you stop pushing these cultist friends of yours and start living in the love and freedom that Christ offers to you?

Nautilus; seriously, where is your Discernment???

Are you truly saved? Have you ever been chastened of the Lord?

You may want to examine yourself to see whether you be in the faith or not.

Let me ask you this Nautilus, have you even took the time to watch the video and listen and hear brother Brian's case against the CCM movement and its worldly compromise?

If you have not; then shame on you for even commenting on this thread. Keep this verse of Scripture in mind:


Proverbs 18:13 (Authorized King James Bible)

He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.


The topic in this thread is very important because it is about how Satan is using the CCM movement to bring Christians under the control of the Vatican and the Harlot religion of Roman Catholicism.

And your comment about brother Brian Moonan only shows your utter folly and carnality. You don't even know the guy; and yet because he is taking a stand for truth and righteousness, you call him a 'deluded useless' man. Again, shame on you.

I truly doubt whether you are saved or not. But if you are saved, well then you certainly have been grieving the Holy Ghost and quenching the work of the Holy Spirit. And you'll have to answer at the Judgment Seat of Christ for that and also for your attack on Bible believing Christians.


And I understand that there have been times in my life where I have grieved the Holy Spirit and also times where I have quenched the work of the Holy Spirit in my own life, but I have repented of that. And if the Lord chastens me about something, I Repent, and seek to get right with God, that way my fellowship with my Heavenly Father may be restored.


Another thing Nautilus, I do operate and live in the love and freedom which Christ Jesus has given me.

Part of that love and freedom involves contending for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints (Jude 1:3).

We as Christians are to contend for the Faith. We are to stand by the word of God (King James Holy Bible), and we are to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness (Rock and Roll, Heavy Metal, Pop, Hip Hop, Religious or Secular), but we are to reprove them (see Eph. 5:11).

Brother Brian Moonan in his video is reproving the works of darkness. And I commend him for doing so. Because it is the Ecumenical, pro-Catholic, CCM movement that is attempting to bring everyone together by getting them to reject Sound Doctrine.

This Ecumenical Movement is telling people to break down the Doctrinal Walls of Separation and just join together under the One World Religion of the Coming Antichrist. It is this very wicked movement that will lead many souls to the burning Hell and Lake of Fire. And I rebuke you Nautilus for taking this issue lightly. This is a serious issue and you need to understand that. You need to repent and get right with God.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

What is CCM, just out of curiosity?

CCM stands for Contemporary Christian Music.

In two words though, it is basically: WORLDLY COMPROMISE.

 

[ChristIsGod]

I watched the video and stand by Brother Brian. Well documented and as he said, "It's in your face."

There was a time when a lot of Christians would have agreed with this and another video back then was "Hell's Bells" - but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
We have no idea now what would qualify to be "Before The Throne".

So sad that 'just music' would bring such division and persecution to Christians like Brian

I was so into the Beatles and they led me to Ravi Shankar and that whole acid tripping generational thing that went on back then. Am I to thank the Beatles or Jim Morrison or Led Zeplin or whomever for where they led me as a middle-teen -- when I was actually seeking for Jesus?

I see these CCM videos and I see no difference in all the secular I did B.C.. I've tried CCM for years after being saved and it gradually fell off of me as I grew to KNOW HIM. To be in actual presence rather than a trumped up stage or state.

Hard message but again, well documented. To me, if you can't see it before The Throne, there's something wrong with it.
If you can see it before The Throne - then there's something wrong with your view of GOD and what goes on in Heaven now.

Tough subject and sorry it causes such anger but it always does - that battle between flesh & spirit will continue until He returns.

God help us.

 

[SoulWeaver]

It is a fact that many Christian band members are actually atheists and they are in it just to sell music, I've read several confessions in the news lately. You might want to google that. I am extremely selective as to what music I introduce into my ears, especially because I also create praise music. This video is preaching to the choir for me... as I listen to none of that. Just hoping that this thread doesnt expand into hatred against other believers, or hatred against this and that musical genre and claiming it is "inherently evil".

 

[Stephen63]

There's one thing I remember about the "legalistic church" that some on here are referring to..... many times they did their job, although not in love.

Revelation 2 (NASB)

Message to Ephesus

1 “To the angel of the church in Ephesus write:
The One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks [a]among the seven golden lampstands, says this:
2 ‘I know your deeds and your toil and [b]perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to the test those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and you found them to be false; 3 and you have [c]perseverance and have endured for My name’s sake, and have not grown weary. 4 But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. 5 Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the [d]deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you and will remove yourlampstand out of its place—unless you repent. 6 Yet this you do have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. 7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.’

Legalistic thread? I dunno. But I tell you this, those legalists of Rev. 2 were never guilty of sitting on their hands, nor did they cry about someone pointing out their sins, neither did they follow the status quo.

Are we living in the last days? Of course, nigh at the doors.

Is the mainstream church falling away by the thousands? No, by the millions.

Between the emergent church, the catholic church, the charismatic movement, the new age movement, the dying of traditional denominations, & others I've forgotten..... does anyone really expect any type of christian music, esp. the most popular, not to have any secular artists in them for profit? Pulleeeeeeeze......

Explain the dark history of christian music companies being bought up by secular companies.

Gee whiz, what will it take for some of you to wake up, do your own research, & quit listening to the masses?!?

If you discover you were fooled by the masses, what else are they fooling you about?

Working out your own salvation with fear & trembling means doing more than following the status quo.

Be a Berean for a change.

 

[SoulWeaver]

Wait a minute... I went to look this up, and all the time thought CCM was some organization and find out he is talking about a musical genre.
Is he being serious?
Psalms 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.
We are not supposed to sing old things over and over.

 

[ChristIsGod]

Wait a minute... I went to look this up, and all the time thought CCM was some organization and find out he is talking about a musical genre.
Is he being serious?
Psalms 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise.
We are not supposed to sing old things over and over.

Sis, did you watch the whole OP video?

 

[SoulWeaver]

Yes I did watch it whole on the first post...I understood at first CCM was some ecumenical organization gathering Christian bands whose idols are Beatles and such, then understood he was condemning anybody who produced anyhow modern music.
Never mind me, please, as if I didnt post (wish I didnt even see this thread).

 

[Ugly]

This is a subjective topic. And there are always those who think their version is the only right one and feel a need to force it on others. Isolating or twisting scripture, quoting people out of context or in ways to support their personal opinions, etc.. In 25 years i've yet to hear a valid argument against any genre of music. If you don't like a certain type of music, or think it's wrong... then don't listen to it. But you are not the final judge and jury on the matter and it is not your place to tell others they are wrong.
Ironically, the people who do this often pride themselves on their spirituality,as if that's any kind of evidence, while the bible says that people whose faith is wobbled or are not able to accept some things as being ok for others but not for themselves are the spiritually weaker ones. Quite the opposite of the naysayers attitude.

 

[ChristIsGod]

But you are not the final judge and jury on the matter and it is not your place to tell others they are wrong.
Ironically, the people who do this often pride themselves on their spirituality,as if that's any kind of evidence, while the bible says that people whose faith is wobbled or are not able to accept some things as being ok for others but not for themselves are the spiritually weaker ones. Quite the opposite of the naysayers attitude.

I'm sure you don't mean what this comes down to or what it comes off as. That unless we accept every form of music - how it's done - what the body movements - how they're dressed - how much they promote a following of groupies or following of themselves and what they're promoting in their lifestyles off stage as well, etc., we're not as spiritual as those that accept everything and anything that has any mention of Christ, God or anything remotely named christian attached to it.

I like a wide variety of music - but what this video is presenting goes beyond what I believe that even you are talking about.

To each their own - for sure - but I do understand what his video was trying to get at - even if just considering the lifestyle preference of just one of those he used in his video.

To start with who's more spiritual or to accuse those of us that may not want to be sung to by those that live a way that we wouldn't desire for our grandkids is getting a bit too judgmental as well. I care about kids, young boys & girls, teens and what some of these music people are allegedly telling them what Christianity is all about -- whether through their lyrics or their lifestyles or how they perform on stage and how their audience reacts to them.

The test of spirituality conveyed in your post seems to be that only the accept-all-crowd are spiritual -- yet that's not judgmental?

Reckon I'll just get back in my granny rocker and put that song on that gets my head back together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGr8as7pPBE

 

[Stephen63]

This is a subjective topic. And there are always those who think their version is the only right one and feel a need to force it on others. Isolating or twisting scripture, quoting people out of context or in ways to support their personal opinions, etc.. In 25 years i've yet to hear a valid argument against any genre of music. If you don't like a certain type of music, or think it's wrong... then don't listen to it. But you are not the final judge and jury on the matter and it is not your place to tell others they are wrong.
Ironically, the people who do this often pride themselves on their spirituality,as if that's any kind of evidence, while the bible says that people whose faith is wobbled or are not able to accept some things as being ok for others but not for themselves are the spiritually weaker ones. Quite the opposite of the naysayers attitude.

And I suppose those that cry "leave them all alone, there's nothing wrong with them" are posting scripture to prove their "accuracy" & aren't judging at all? What do you call saying the Op is deluded & the others are prideful & weak?

BTW, one only needs to check all the threads to see who's the ones jumping on everyone's case about protecting all types of "so-called" christian music.

Are there those that's judging the music? Of course. Some are judged as sinful according to improper motives, including some of their lifestyles proving their sin. Then there are others that judge that they are all alright regardless of the evidence. Judging is judging..... but righteous judgement is biblical.

 

[Angela53510]

I can honestly say that rock music in the 60's and 70's lead me totally astray. I actually became a professional musician, but God was gracious, and did not allow me the fame I craved at that time.

Does that mean I am against CCM? Not really. Genre, taste are individual. I am eclectic, liking everything but rap and C & W. (Country and Western). I esp. like classical, and sometimes that does not glorify God either.

Do I like most CCM? Not really. There is a boring sameness to the sound, and other than some break out artists, and some that are like folk, I find the lyrics trite and the music dead. But I do not condemn others. And I do believe some of this music can bring people to seek out the claims of Christ. I just wish I had CCM when I was a teenager and 20 something, instead of acid rock and new age nonsense embedded in the lyrics.

And no, I did not watch the video. ChosenbyHim is too famous for his ranting videos for me to want to waste my time on his silly videos.