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tourist

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The Beatles were my favorite group. "It's been a hard days night..."
 

tanakh

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Another thought came to me about Lennon's.Lucy in the Sky. It was the nursery rhyme..

Twinkle ,Twinkle little Star, How I wonder what you are, Up above the world so high,
Like a diamond in the sky

I wonder whether he had this in mind when he wrote the song?
 
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thanks for the reply though I don't consider myself wise by any standard. Your assumption regarding the song is almost universal because of the title ie lucy in the Skies with Diamonds. John Lennon was a genius at manipulating ideas and lyrics and he used a child's painting with stars in the sky to produce the song.
well i only learned about the sixties or something like a carry over of sort I guess of the sixties into the seventies hehe. you kind of lived in the sixties so indeed you are wise of things of the sixties and of things of relevant.
And I agree with you about his experiences with things went into his song writings...in my view sometimes a musician can apply more then one experience to verses in a song and blend them into one song... but its a work in progress for the musician playing in beats and tones etc. fitting the lyrics can change the wording just on how each keep in tune. In my view That's why a lot of lyrics can kind be short or long depending on rhythm match. a simple verse can end up kind of abstract in dynamic progression.
 
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I love the Beatles.
Many think that John was an atheist, which I understand by the comment "we are bigger than Jesus Christ"
yet not many people have researched it (like a nerd like me haha)
It was taken out of contest, what he did say was "we mean more to kids in the US, than God or whatever is out there does. More young people listen to us than going to church"
As in, it's wrong, and he felt uncomfortable.
He also had a phase before he died where he wanted to make a Christian album. Yoko convinced him that he was going nuts, and she deleted the album before publishing.
Only a few tracks have been restored like "help me to help myself" and "save my soul"
Which are on YouTube.
Anyway, my questions is:
What is your memories with the Beatles?
What is your opinion about them?
Do you think their lyrics have wisdom in them? Like let it be: "mother Mary comes to me" which Paul sang.
Wow I really didn't know about the Christian phase. That's really cool. When I think of Lennon I just think of the Atheist anthem "Imagine". This changes things a little for me.
 
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Wow I really didn't know about the Christian phase. That's really cool. When I think of Lennon I just think of the Atheist anthem "Imagine". This changes things a little for me.
that is interesting I wonder about
beyond what is not visible or was the visible created within what is not visible or is what is visible the place of not visible beyond
 
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The Beatles are not merely awful; I would consider it sacrilegious to say anything less than that they are god awful. They are so unbelievably horribly, so appallingly unmusical, so dogmatically insensitive to the magic of the art that they qualify as crowned heads of anti-music, even as the imposter popes went down in history as "anti-popes."

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William F. Buckley Jr.


My favorite quote about the Beatles. I spent most of my life as a collector of music. I surrounded myself with others who had a similar passion for music. I even worked at Tower Records, where I discovered thousands of incredible recordings by incredibly gifted bands and song writers. I attended over a thousand live shows. My friends were like people with advanced degrees in music appreciation. Of course, what happens is you get labeled as music snobs, sort of like the characters in the movie; High Fidelity. Those characters were nearly identical to me and my friends. Walking encyclopedias of music. But trying to discuss our taste in music and our favorite bands and favorite songs and favorite music labels and favorite live shows, with people who liked the Beatles and have been to maybe five live shows and can't name a single band from Manchester, England, or have listened to Liz Frasier or Hope Sandoval or David Eugene Edwards or the first album by New Order or listened to Aztec Camera perform Knife or have listened to Brownsville Girl by Bob Dylan or know the music of Bauhaus, Julee Cruise, The Clash, The Smiths, The Wedding Present, Brian Eno, Camera Obscura, Mumford & Sons, Elliott Brood, The Waterboys, Pogues, Cat Power, The Church, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Feelies, Galaxie 500, The The, Paul Weller, Kate Bush, Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, Wilco, Modest Mouse, Okkervil River, The Replacements, Peter Gabriel, Pixies, Shriekback, Sigur Ros, The Stone Roses, This Mortal Coil, Violent Femmes, Yaz, Yo La Tengo, Zola Jesus, is mostly a waste of time. Sort of like when two young people debate whether Budweiser is better than Coors. They are probably not the types of people who have tasted 500 different craft beers from around the world. The rankings are based on the 3 or 4 cheap beers they have tried. With music, you often hear people discuss their favorite bands based on what they heard on top 40 radio when they were growing up. So it comes down to Tom Petty, Pink Floyd, the Beatles, U2, The Who, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and a handful of others they were force fed.
 
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The Beatles are not merely awful; I would consider it sacrilegious to say anything less than that they are god awful. They are so unbelievably horribly, so appallingly unmusical, so dogmatically insensitive to the magic of the art that they qualify as crowned heads of anti-music, even as the imposter popes went down in history as "anti-popes."

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William F. Buckley Jr.


My favorite quote about the Beatles. I spent most of my life as a collector of music. I surrounded myself with others who had a similar passion for music. I even worked at Tower Records, where I discovered thousands of incredible recordings by incredibly gifted bands and song writers. I attended over a thousand live shows. My friends were like people with advanced degrees in music appreciation. Of course, what happens is you get labeled as music snobs, sort of like the characters in the movie; High Fidelity. Those characters were nearly identical to me and my friends. Walking encyclopedias of music. But trying to discuss our taste in music and our favorite bands and favorite songs and favorite music labels and favorite live shows, with people who liked the Beatles and have been to maybe five live shows and can't name a single band from Manchester, England, or have listened to Liz Frasier or Hope Sandoval or David Eugene Edwards or the first album by New Order or listened to Aztec Camera perform Knife or have listened to Brownsville Girl by Bob Dylan or know the music of Bauhaus, Julee Cruise, The Clash, The Smiths, The Wedding Present, Brian Eno, Camera Obscura, Mumford & Sons, Elliott Brood, The Waterboys, Pogues, Cat Power, The Church, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Feelies, Galaxie 500, The The, Paul Weller, Kate Bush, Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, Wilco, Modest Mouse, Okkervil River, The Replacements, Peter Gabriel, Pixies, Shriekback, Sigur Ros, The Stone Roses, This Mortal Coil, Violent Femmes, Yaz, Yo La Tengo, Zola Jesus, is mostly a waste of time. Sort of like when two young people debate whether Budweiser is better than Coors. They are probably not the types of people who have tasted 500 different craft beers from around the world. The rankings are based on the 3 or 4 cheap beers they have tried. With music, you often hear people discuss their favorite bands based on what they heard on top 40 radio when they were growing up. So it comes down to Tom Petty, Pink Floyd, the Beatles, U2, The Who, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and a handful of others they were force fed.
thats the beauty of individuality I'm not a big fan of zep though some songs i liked when I first heard them years ago didn't really produce goose pumps for me but still I enjoyed the songs though over time not so much for my taste in music always evolving revolving forward and backwards But some of my friends I know will crank zep up those same songs today that came out yesterday that's been played since who knows when and they feel like they have just heard it goose pumps and all and say is this cool. My answer is what ever I don't mind crank it up but then when the song ends I sometimes say can you play something else.. the answer most often is what ever what would you like to hear I say ahh anything but zep. They say O man really,,, yup sorry I'm not a real big fan of zep how about some Accept the new stuff Or that song you know (each minute is like a million years).. Do what
 
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So I used to hate the Beatles when I was a kid (I had only heard their hits). I'm listening to their discography on Spotify and I must say that their music really only got consistently good after they started dropping acid and became hippies haha.
 

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I love the Beatles!

First it is true that John Lennon said about "bigger than Jesus" to mean he was attacking the decline of religion, not the church itself. He felt such a decline hurt society and that the church was good for society by bringing about peace and understanding. Naturally the haters of that time used his words as an excuse to attack them.


Paul McCartney has always been a Catholic. He never stopped practicing Christianity as he was taught it.

"All You Need Is Love" is a re-echoing of Jesus's words. Same with "Give Peace A Chance". As a 1960s peacenik I know that better than anyone else. :)



LOVE
LOVE
LOVE
 

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The Beatles made many GREAT accomplishments. But perhaps their most under rated act was when they refused to play before a racially segregated audience in Miami. They were told their Black fans would have to sit in the back of the auditorium. When told of that they refused to play and the promoters had no choice but to integrate the seating.
 

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For example the song Lucy in the sky with diamonds sounds all cute and cuddly until you peel back the layers....
lucy is another term some in satanism use to refer to lucifer and if you read in Isaiah it talks of lucifer being adorned with all sorts of jewels (diamond is a type of jewel). So in essence the song may be saying "look at lucifer in the sky"
plus the reference to a girl with kaleidoscope eyes may be a reference to a demon/demon possession as demons can change the shape of people's eyes especially the iris/pupil.....

Imagine all the people song by John lennon.....is an anti-God song and was actually a piece of propaganda being spewed by their controllers to advocate a world without borders and mass acceptance (which is where modern society is heading) to this so called "one world utopia" but the reality is it is no utopia but totalitarian control and repression of ideas that comes about....

The so called peace symbol that was prevalent back then and embraced in hippieism.....is a symbol of satanic witchcraft called the "crows foot" it is also used to show a broken cross (reference to Jesus) in a magic circle.....so when you wear this symbol or make the two finger peace sign (another version of the "rockon symbol when really it is the baphomet(satan horn god) reference) you are in essence hexing yourself with a curse originating from your own actions.

There album colors are filled with hidden esoteric symbolism as well...

Man your post was good and informative until you dived into the crazy conspiracy end of the pool with all the symbolism nonsense.
 

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Blackbird - A Cappella

[video]https://youtu.be/RBKwcjeftnA[/video]
 

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They were pretty high energy until Revolver, then they went East and ka-pu-ee.
 

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My favorite is predictable - Yesterday. I like their older stuff more. There's one site where I download ringtones, and I usually come across their songs that I completely forgot about. Like the other day I found Here comes the sun. Oh, what a tune
Here comes the sun is a classic and written by George Harrison whose talent was overshadowed by Lennon and McCartney
in my opinion.
 

tanakh

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The Beatles are not merely awful; I would consider it sacrilegious to say anything less than that they are god awful. They are so unbelievably horribly, so appallingly unmusical, so dogmatically insensitive to the magic of the art that they qualify as crowned heads of anti-music, even as the imposter popes went down in history as "anti-popes."

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William F. Buckley Jr.


My favorite quote about the Beatles. I spent most of my life as a collector of music. I surrounded myself with others who had a similar passion for music. I even worked at Tower Records, where I discovered thousands of incredible recordings by incredibly gifted bands and song writers. I attended over a thousand live shows. My friends were like people with advanced degrees in music appreciation. Of course, what happens is you get labeled as music snobs, sort of like the characters in the movie; High Fidelity. Those characters were nearly identical to me and my friends. Walking encyclopedias of music. But trying to discuss our taste in music and our favorite bands and favorite songs and favorite music labels and favorite live shows, with people who liked the Beatles and have been to maybe five live shows and can't name a single band from Manchester, England, or have listened to Liz Frasier or Hope Sandoval or David Eugene Edwards or the first album by New Order or listened to Aztec Camera perform Knife or have listened to Brownsville Girl by Bob Dylan or know the music of Bauhaus, Julee Cruise, The Clash, The Smiths, The Wedding Present, Brian Eno, Camera Obscura, Mumford & Sons, Elliott Brood, The Waterboys, Pogues, Cat Power, The Church, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Feelies, Galaxie 500, The The, Paul Weller, Kate Bush, Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, Wilco, Modest Mouse, Okkervil River, The Replacements, Peter Gabriel, Pixies, Shriekback, Sigur Ros, The Stone Roses, This Mortal Coil, Violent Femmes, Yaz, Yo La Tengo, Zola Jesus, is mostly a waste of time. Sort of like when two young people debate whether Budweiser is better than Coors. They are probably not the types of people who have tasted 500 different craft beers from around the world. The rankings are based on the 3 or 4 cheap beers they have tried. With music, you often hear people discuss their favorite bands based on what they heard on top 40 radio when they were growing up. So it comes down to Tom Petty, Pink Floyd, the Beatles, U2, The Who, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, and a handful of others they were force fed.
Very few people in the UK have heard of William F Buckley Jnr. As he died in 2008 I expect now there will be even less.
Having worked in Tower records I would be surprised if you were not more knowledgeable than the average record buyer
who if they were like me in the 60s had very little cash to spend. I never considered myself to be force fed by anyone in particular. Apart from the Beatles and Stones I also liked Francoise Hardy, Dusty Springfield, The Moody Blues, Frank Zappa,
Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, The Doors and Family.

1960s Manchester bands included The Hollies, Hermans Hermits and the Bee Gees. They all owed success in America to the Beatles who paved the way for many British Artists at that time.
 
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