Rock n roll is devils music! Seriously though.

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Innerfire89

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What is rock and roll? A name given to a certain style of music? Yes. But where did rock and roll get it's name from? Well, back in the day teenagers would go out riding in a car and find a place to have sex, the car would rock and roll while they would listen to music, eventaualy that music became know as rock and roll.

A stanic magiacian named Alastor Crowley had a large influnce on rock and roll because of his phlisophy of "do what thou is the whole of the law. This man wanted to be idenitifyed as The Beast which is mother called him. He beloved the best way to tap into satanic power was to sacrifice and/or molest male children. He would crucify frogs, and write satanic pottery too blashpemious to mention. One of his quotes is "With my hawks head I peak out Christ eyes." Ozzy Ozbonre, Led Zepplen, The Beatels, and David Bowie are just a few that were inspired by such an evil man and openly admitted to it.
Most rock and roll is about rebbelion, sex, and using drugs, like The beatels song Strawberry fields is accualy about shooting up heiroine, strawberry flieds are the little red bump that appear on the skin after shooting up.

The rock and roll that's not satanic is written by athiest,(Pink Floyd, Billy Joe) panteist, (James Taylor ) bahaist, (Seals and Crofts) and eastern spiritist. ( Yes, The Doors, Hall and Oats)

Such music doesn't honor Christ and feeds the mind on ungodly philosophies.

Not all rock stlyed music is evil, but most of secular rock is. Brothers and sisters in Christ please be dicerning with what you listen to and fill your minds with what's good and pleasing to The Lord.

Philip. 4:8 Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent and praisworthy- think about such things.
 
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blue_ladybug

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Alrighty then..

*Continues to listen to rock music*
 
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"Rock 'n' roll doesn't glorify God. You can't drink out of God's cup and the devil's cup at the same time. I was one of the pioneers of that music, one of the builders. I know what the blocks are made of because I built them. I was directed and commanded by another power. The power of darkness ... that a lot of people don't believe exists. The power of the Devil. Satan".


- Little Richard
 

blue_ladybug

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I think it's the content of the lyrics that make it satanic or not.. Songs like Highway To Hell by ac/dc is obviously questionable, but songs like "We Are The World" isn't.. jmo
 

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When I was a seeker, I would turn the lyrics of pop songs to being about God.

Top 10 Pop Songs Secretly About God
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-rossmann-sj/top-ten-pop-songs-secretly-about-god_b_1657088.html

Sure, pop music seems to have little in the way of ... umm ... depth (“boom boom boom, even brighter than the moon moon moon” — thank you, Katy). The question is whether God is present even in what can seem to be vacuously superficial. Can what initially appears to be a cheesy song about teenage romance actually be a way to imagine God singing sweet nothings to you? Can our inability to get Carly Rae out of our heads actually help us live out the Gospel ideal of praying without ceasing?

Of course, it’s not always so easy. I mean, who doesn’t “Believe in a Thing Called Love”? Sometimes it’s just not possible for me to imagine God and myself “rocking ‘til the sun goes down.” And sometimes pop songs are just distracting (in an all-time you-gotta-be-kidding-me moment, one of my least favorite songs of all time, “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” by Cyndi Lauper, infiltrated my mind at perhaps the worst possible time: while trying to pray with the Passion. Yup, that was pretty bad.)

Sometimes the only thing I can do is baptize a song, turn it into something about the Christian life regardless of what it was supposed to mean. On a recent silent retreat, for example, I just couldn’t keep a certain song, one that’s not exactly retreat material, out of my head (OK, it was “Wild Ones” by Flo Rida ft. Sia — so good!). Instead of trying to repress it, which only made me think about it more, I decided that I would turn the phrase “wild ones” into a description of all those people Jesus invited to walk with him along the adventurous road toward the Kingdom of God. I’ll confess that I was more or less pumped that I managed to get Flo Rida to help me focus on the Kingdom of God.

Even aside from than the lyrics and music videos, baptizing a song that really doesn’t serve God can be a little duplicitous, especially when the artists have made some less-than-edifying personal choices. It is no doubt easier to see the presence of God in someone who not only performs a catchy song but also lives a virtuous life.


All of that is true. But the deal is that all of us are imperfect carriers of God’s grace. At least that’s what Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, SJ seems to have had in mind when he wrote, “by virtue of Creation, and still more the Incarnation, nothing here is profane for those who know how to see.”


With Teilhard’s blessing, here’s my top-10 list of pop songs that might secretly be about God (or at least have messages that God might want us to hear). Alright, no more caveats, here’s the list.


The “This Is Too Easy Because I Already Imagine God Singing Them To Me” Division


10.
OneDirection — “What Makes You Beautiful”


Best Line: “You don’t know you’re beautiful. If only you saw what I can see...”


I really don’t like OneDirection, and this song seems both too sappy and manufactured for pre-teen girls. That said, I can’t fight a good message, and this is one we simply cannot hear enough. We are loved into being by God, and yet we can hate ourselves for
our flaws. If only we could see what God can see, we’d know that we actually are beautiful.


9.
Drake ft. Rihanna — “Take Care”


Best Line: “I know you’ve been hurt by someone else. If you let me, here’s what I’ll do: I’ll take care of you. When you’re ready, just say you’re ready.”


Understatement of the year alert: not all of Rihanna’s songs are easy to pray with. But I have to admit that a few of her songs lend themselves to ruminating on messages I have to think God wants us to internalize. Because we have been hurt. We have built walls to protect ourselves. Without coercing us God simply whispers, “You are precious; you are mine. Just say you’re ready and let yourself be loved by me.”

The “Did They Steal That Line From Scripture? No, Really, Did They?” Division


8.
vTaylor Swift — “Eyes Open”


Best Line: “The night goes dark. Keep your eyes open. Everybody’s waiting for you to break down. Everybody’s watching to see the fallout. Even when you’re sleeping, keep your eyes open.”


Was Taylor meditating on the Gospel of Matthew while singing this song for the “Hunger Games” soundtrack? Because she sounds an awful lot like Matthew 25:13, “stay awake, for you know neither the day nor the hour.”

Taylor also might be discovering Ignatian spirituality, because there are some odd parallels between her admonitions about what to do when “the night goes dark” and Ignatius’ instructions for what to do when we’re in desolation and feel far from God. Whenever we’re immersed in desolation and tempted to give up on God, that is exactly the time to “keep [our] eyes open” and to fight such a temptation.

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Fun. — “We Are Young”


Best Line: “Tonight we are young, so let’s set the world on fire. We can burn brighter than the sun.”

I sure as heck hope there is some sort of Gospel message in this song considering that I (and the rest of the country) have spend the last few months having these words tattooed onto our ear drums. Fortunately, I think there is. Jesus tells us in the Sermon on the Mount, “You are the light of the world ... Your light must shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your heavenly Father” (Matthew 5:14-16). Ignatius thought this was so important that, legend has it, they were the last words he ever spoke to his close friend (and fellow saint) Francis Xavier as Xavier was leaving for the Indies. “Ite inflammate omnia,” Ignatius is to have said, or, “Go, and set the world on fire.”

Let’s have some Fun. setting the world on fire.


6.
Katy Perry — “Firework”

Best Line: “‘Cause baby you’re a firework. Come on, show ‘em what you’re worth. Make ‘em go oh oh oh as you shoot across the sky. ...You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine. Just own the night like the 4th of July.”

While Katy has strayed far from
her Christian music beginnings, she nails this Gospel message even better than Fun. If Jesus were around today, he likely would not talk about covering one’s light under a bushelbasket but instead “own[ing] the night like the 4th of July” for your heavenly Father.


The “Unintentional Catechesis” Division


5.
Rebecca Black — “Friday”


Best Line: “It’s Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday. Partyin’, partyin’ (yeah!), partyin’, partyin’, (yeah!), fun, fun, fun, fun, lookin’ forward to the weekend. We, we, we, we so excited. We so excited. We gonna have a ball today.”


OK, OK, I know saying that “Friday,” arguably one of the most hated songs ever created, helps explain part of the faith is a bit of a stretch, but hear me out. And, no, I’m not going to say that listening to this song makes me miserable thereby putting me in a space to pray with Good Friday. That would just be cruel.


Nope, this was yet another of the songs that got lodged in my mind during that recent retreat. While I was initially agitated that a song with lyrics as profound as “we, we, we so excited” was distracting me from trying to pray with the Resurrection, I baptized it, turning Rebecca Black into an aid to prayer. “It’s Easter, Easter, gotta get down on Easter” I found myself singing (hopefully, for the sake of my fellow retreatants, not too audibly).


But wait, the possibilities for Rebecca-angelism don’t end here! If we change it to Sunday, can you think of another pop song that better illustrates the importance of the sabbath? Thanks to Rebecca, now “I, I, I, I so excited” for the Lord’s Day.


4.
Hanson — “MMMBop”


Best Line: “MMMBop... It’s a secret no one knows. Can you tell me? Oh no you can’t ‘cause you don’t know. Oh yeah you say you can but you don’t know.”


Since the age of 12 the question has haunted me: What on earth is an mmmbop?! Finally, after yet another “Well, the Trinity is a mystery” homily on Trinity Sunday, I thought, “That’s it! What if they were singing about an Mmmystery!” We can write books — or songs — about the Trinity. And yet on some level, Hansen will always be right, we just don’t know.


As if tackling the mystery of the Trinity wasn’t enough, Isaac, Taylor, and Zac seem steeped in Scripture and full of wisdom for those in ministry. They sing:

Plant a seed, plant a flower, plant a rose

you can plant any one of those.
Can you tell me oh which flower’s going to grow?
No you can’t ‘cause you don’t know.
Keep planting to find out which one grows.

Hansen, like Paul and Apollos before them, know that no matter how hard we work ultimately God causes the growth (1 Corinthians 3:6-7). I certainly am never sure whether my efforts will produce anything good, all I can do is keep planting and trust that I’ll eventually discover what has grown.


3.
Rihanna — “We Found Love”


Best Line: “We found love in a hopeless place. We found love in a hopeless place.”


Christians do the impossible: see a dead man hanging on a wooden beam and call it love. We find the depth of God’s love for us in one of the cruelest ways humanity has figured out how to kill each other. We have found love in a hopeless place, indeed.


The “This One’s Got It All” Division


2.
Adele — “Make You Feel My Love”


Best Line: “I can offer you a warm embrace / To make you feel my love. When there is no one there to dry your tears / I could hold you for a million years / To make you feel my love. / I know you haven’t made your mind up yet / but I would never do you wrong. / Go to the end of the earth for you / To make you feel my love.”

I know this is a Bob Dylan original, and I’m admittedly tired of the overwhelming amount of Adele on the air, but there’s no denying that this is a wonderful song to pray with. Seriously, pull it up on your browser and imagine God is singing to you for four minutes and seven glorious seconds.

Almost every retreat director I’ve ever had has started off the retreat by inviting me to pray with Psalm 139, but maybe they should have just asked me to listen to Adele. “Where can I hide from your spirit? From your presence, where can I flee? If I ascend to the heavens, you are there... Even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me” (Psalm 139 7-10). God will go even to the end of the earth to offer us the kind of warm embrace that can make us feel God’s love.


1.
Whitney Houston (R.I.P.) — “I Will Always Love You”


Best Line: “If I should stay, I would only be in your way. I hope you have all you’ve dreamed of. And I wish to you
joy and happiness. But above all this, I wish you love.”


Just like No. 2, Whitney’s “I Will Always Love You” is actually a cover (this one’s actually a Dolly Parton original). But honestly, can anyone top Whitney? That note in “I Will Always Love You” — you know, that note, the epitome of
a money note — is perhaps one of the closest experiences to the beatific vision we have in this earthly life. Whitney is one of those performers whose life didn’t always match the transcendence of her talent, and after she died, there was much discussion. But that note always sounds to me like it came right out of the brokenness of her life.


More than just an experience of beauty, notes like that describe God and God’s love, they describe the Jesus who wishes for his joy to “be in you that your joy may be complete” (John 15:11). God offers us unconditional love while giving us the freedom to respond to this offer of love however we will.


And with YouTube at our fingertips we’ve got even more freedom to experience The Note — or any of your other favorite songs that might (secretly) be about God.

 

Innerfire89

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I won't be too critical of We are the World, but the song is pretty hamanistic though, think about, the people of the world are looked at as the answer to the problems in the world like starvation, but it's Christ who should be lifted up as the solution to the problems in the world caused by the sins of humanity that cause the problems. The song means well but is just a contradiction.
 

Blain

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I listen to Christian rock all the time does that count?
 

posthuman

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o, just what we needed.

another one of these threads. there are dozens in the archives of the music & misc. forum, and they follow a pattern which goes like this:

OP arrives, condemns genres of music that don't tickle his own ears, with total disregard for purpose or lyrical content, based solely on sonic characteristics.
people chime in refuting OP
OP, not actually having any valid argument, presuming to judge by appearances rather than rightly, disappears ((smugly?))
no ones mind is changed

ok, that's out of the way then :)
 

Innerfire89

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I don't really know all that much about today's pop music other than the immorality. I get what you're saying, you take the expressions of the sings and use them for your own context. I've done that myself with a song called Sailing by Chris Cross, I'm not sure what is. Part of the lyrics go, "Its not far back to sanity, at least it's not for me. And if the wind is right you can find the joy of innocese again." I think of the "the wind" as rebrith in Christ washing and making me inocesent again. Then the song goes,"soon the wind will carry me ,soon I will be free" that would be leaving this world and being with Christ,finally being totally clean and rightious, being all that God created me to be. A Christian artist named Dan Peek did a beautiful remake of this song also.

Some people can't help hearing these songs because they hear them over and over again at work or school or whatever.
Sometimes lyrics seem to have elements of Christianity but don't really, a lot of people thought Arms Wide Open by Creed was a Christian song, yet the band only has one Christian member and he doesn't even believe Christ is the only way to heaven. Katey Perry in her own words said she sold her soul to the devil, that's not a real thing but it shows who the lord of her life is. Some are Christian but there also other faiths too, so they're not really Christian.

I'm not saying you do, but don't buy those albums, don't give your money to people that hate who God is and pray and think about what your listening to.
 

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Ironically, in the mainstream, POP is more "devilish" than Rock N Roll is, or has ever been.
With the lyrics, subliminal messages.
 

Innerfire89

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I don't really know all that much about today's pop music other than the immorality. I get what you're saying, you take the expressions of the sings and use them for your own context. I've done that myself with a song called Sailing by Chris Cross, I'm not sure what is. Part of the lyrics go, "Its not far back to sanity, at least it's not for me. And if the wind is right you can find the joy of innocese again." I think of the "the wind" as rebrith in Christ washing and making me inocesent again. Then the song goes,"soon the wind will carry me ,soon I will be free" that would be leaving this world and being with Christ,finally being totally clean and rightious, being all that God created me to be. A Christian artist named Dan Peek did a beautiful remake of this song also.

Some people can't help hearing these songs because they hear them over and over again at work or school or whatever.
Sometimes lyrics seem to have elements of Christianity but don't really, a lot of people thought Arms Wide Open by Creed was a Christian song, yet the band only has one Christian member and he doesn't even believe Christ is the only way to heaven. Katey Perry in her own words said she sold her soul to the devil, that's not a real thing but it shows who the lord of her life is. Some are Christian but there also other faiths too, so they're not really Christian.

I'm not saying you do, but don't buy those albums, don't give your money to people that hate who God is and pray and think about what your listening to.
 

Innerfire89

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Blane and Post Human, not to be rude but I already stated that not all rock and roll is evil.
 

posthuman

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Such music doesn't honor Christ and feeds the mind on ungodly philosophies.
i like this part. the mold is broken a bit.

this statement is applicable to all wordly music. "worldly" isn't a description of a genre, it's a worldview that alternatively or in combination rejects, denies, opposes and/or neglects God. those characteristics have nothing to do with sonic qualities.

it's not as though before The Clash no one ever had sex while music was playing before. it's not as though atheists and satanists never existed before the 50's or never wrote any songs or touched any musical instruments. in my opinion, Innerfire89, you're completely misdirected by singling out some certain stratification of the way that noises can be arranged. you might as well be saying that trees are dangerous to have anything to do with for a Christian, because some pagans did something evil involving some trees - admitting that 'not all trees are evil' tho, leaving yourself an out.

you'd be far more coherent if you dropped all the prejudices you've built about any particular form of aural reverbation, and concentrated on the worldview represented by virtually all secular media, and how that worldview is dangerously reinforced through subtle introductions in ((many places, including)) popular music.

like you did here:

I won't be too critical of We are the World, but the song is pretty hamanistic though, think about, the people of the world are looked at as the answer to the problems in the world like starvation, but it's Christ who should be lifted up as the solution to the problems in the world caused by the sins of humanity that cause the problems. The song means well but is just a contradiction.
now you're looking at the lyrical content, and looking at the underlying worldview & philosophy suggested by understanding the songtext. that's a whole lot different from dropping the name of a famous witch who died decades before any of the secular bands you mentioned & reminding us all not to sing along with satanists. none of what you said about 'we are the world' has anything to do with its musical accompaniment and none of what you said in your introduction has anything to do with the traits of composition, instrumentation and arrangement on whose account someone might classify a particular piece under the broad category "rock"

let's stay there

just as i was needlessly prejudicial, not even bothering to read the first post before pronouncing my assumptions about the thread, the moment i read the title, just as you might, the moment you hear a distorted guitar or a strong backbeat on a drum. let's not go there; let's judge rightly, if we judge at all: let my mistake be a lesson for us both
 

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"Rock 'n' roll doesn't glorify God. You can't drink out of God's cup and the devil's cup at the same time. I was one of the pioneers of that music, one of the builders. I know what the blocks are made of because I built them. I was directed and commanded by another power. The power of darkness ... that a lot of people don't believe exists. The power of the Devil. Satan".


- Little Richard

lol. let's take the word of someone openly professing to be a pawn of Satan.

i'm sure he's a reliable source
 
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o, just what we needed.

another one of these threads. there are dozens in the archives of the music & misc. forum, and they follow a pattern which goes like this:

OP arrives, condemns genres of music that don't tickle his own ears, with total disregard for purpose or lyrical content, based solely on sonic characteristics.
people chime in refuting OP
OP, not actually having any valid argument, presuming to judge by appearances rather than rightly, disappears ((smugly?))
no ones mind is changed

ok, that's out of the way then :)
You forgot a step...

And then leaves because that was the one-trick pony.
 

posthuman

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i hope we're not getting off on the wrong foot, innerfire, and i apologize again for posting without doing much more than reading the thread title. in a lot of ways we're on the same page, as i hope i've begun to explain

where post is at:

music had a strong influence in my life.
stopped listening to secular music 25 years ago.
did not stop listening to any particular style of music.
music continues to strongly influence me.

has purposefully and sometimes painstakingly sought ought music written and performed by Christians in many eclectic styles.
has been blessed by what was found, profoundly so, for 25 years. and counting

heh good thing i prefer black metal to rock, i guess .. ?? ;)
 

Blain

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Blane and Post Human, not to be rude but I already stated that not all rock and roll is evil.
You know what makes a song evil? the Lyrics. Rock and roll has some bad and evil stuff but so does most music these days, but just as most music these days there are some good songs too. Rock and roll has several different kinds of rock and roll even soft rock.

I mean you can say Rock and roll is evil but your labeling an entire genre as if it's evil when not all of it is in fact a lot of it isn't people just have different tastes
 
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lol. let's take the word of someone openly professing to be a pawn of Satan. i'm sure he's a reliable source
Rock music still has occult orgins regardless of the lyrics excuse people want to make.
 

Innerfire89

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On the album cover of Yellow Submarine The Beatles are posing in front of a group of people they said were their heros, one of the people in the top left corner is Al Alastor Crowly the are eastern spiritist and the like, the band wanted to include Hitler on the cover but worried it would hurt their publicity.
David Bowie mentioned "being emerised in Crowley's gloden dawn" The hermedic order of the golden dawn is an order of satanic magicians.
Ozzy made a song about Crowly called Mr. Crowly.
Led zepplens lead Singer lived in Crowly's mansion and wrote the lyrics for Stairway to Heaven while auto writing or ghost writing. When played backwards you can clearly hear a satanic message and Crowly taught that one should learn walk and talk backwards, what a coincidence.
I'll throw in one more, Anton La Vay's church of Satan was an old brothel in California, there were mirrors on the calling, starting to sound like a song by The Eagles. On the cover of the Hotel California album is a hotel with someone dressed in black on the balcony, you can guess who that is, this song too has a backwards message, it goes "yeah, Satan has his own organised religion.