So he is a bad person because he doesnt believe every word of gensis literally? PLease, find some other soapbox to go on. Whether or not you think earth was created in 7 days or if the flood was actually global has no bearing on your slavation or your belief in Christ. People need to get over themselves.
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That's not all. These athiests are "protected" by christians that will verbally tear your head off if you try to expose them. Happens in the Christian Music Forum all the time.
not that "everyone involved in christian music is spotless and pure and has perfect theology" -- that's ridiculous.
how many people have jumped into this thread defending Tim Lambesis? zero. i think your head has not been torn off.
some people would take the fact that one man in one band discarded his faith, and use it to argue that anyone who has ever picked up an electric guitar and made a noise with is it possessed by demons.
that, yeah, i take issue with.
He's right about Genesis though...There is a lot of it I don't take literally but that doesn't make me an atheist...1.) I don't believe there was an international flood. 2.) I don't believe in a literal 7 day creation. But with your logic, that automatically makes someone an atheist. Just because someone believes a little differently than the generic literal interpretation, it doesn't automatically associate them to be a non-Christian.
I had read a blog from Tim Lambesis who talked about how he basically lost belief in God due to all the stuff he was reading, but since the matter with him being charged for trying to have his ex-wife murdered, he said the he still finds himself inspired by the words of the one who taught us to love our enemies.
Let's show some "true colors"....
As I Lay Dying's jailed frontman Tim Lambesis admits being atheist and lying to Christian fans - News - Music - The Independent
As I Lay Dying's jailed frontman Tim Lambesis admits being atheist and lying to Christian fans
The singer was convicted of plotting to murder his wife in March this year
The frontman of a supposed Christian band, who was jailed for organising to have his wife killed, has admitted faking religious devotion to sell records.
Tim Lambesis, 33, is the founding member of US metalcore band As I Lay Dying but has been an atheist for years.
Furthermore, the lead singer revealed in a recent interview that he “wasn’t the first guy in the group to stop being a Christian” as two of his bandmates had “dropped” the religion before him.
Lambesis was convicted of attempting to hire a hitman to murder his estranged wife and, in divorce papers, she noted that he had shunned Christianity.
The musician told Alternative Press that he had distanced himself from religion while studying it at college.
“In the process of trying to defend my faith, I started thinking the other point of view was the stronger one,” he said, adding that he began using his new-found atheism as a justification for his sins.
“The first time I cheated on my wife, my interpretation of morality was now convenient for me,” he said. “I felt less guilty if I decided, ‘Well, marriage isn’t a real thing, because Christianity isn’t real. God isn’t real.’”
'Christian' band As I Lay Dying are not all as Christian as they seem
But there was money to make with As I Lay Dying, so Lambesis pretended he was still a Christian. “When kids would want to pray with us after shows, I’d be like, ‘Um, go ahead and pray!’” he said.
“We were just singing about real-life stuff. Those kids need to hear about real life because they live in a bubble.”
Lambesis insisted that As I Lay Dying toured with “more ‘Christian bands’ who actually aren’t Christians than bands that are”.
The “Nothing Left” singer was sentenced to six years in prison in March after an undercover sting operation found that he had allegedly supplied police with details and money to murder his wife.
I Googled this phrase "As I Lay Dying admits not christian", & this is at the top of the first page that was loaded with the same thing.
The only way somebody could not believe it is because they don't want to see the truth. Which is more disturbing than the article itself.
BTW, "the true colors" of the pics were quite vivid. And honest.
As I Lay Dying's jailed frontman Tim Lambesis admits being atheist and lying to Christian fans - News - Music - The Independent
As I Lay Dying's jailed frontman Tim Lambesis admits being atheist and lying to Christian fans
The singer was convicted of plotting to murder his wife in March this year
The frontman of a supposed Christian band, who was jailed for organising to have his wife killed, has admitted faking religious devotion to sell records.
Tim Lambesis, 33, is the founding member of US metalcore band As I Lay Dying but has been an atheist for years.
Furthermore, the lead singer revealed in a recent interview that he “wasn’t the first guy in the group to stop being a Christian” as two of his bandmates had “dropped” the religion before him.
Lambesis was convicted of attempting to hire a hitman to murder his estranged wife and, in divorce papers, she noted that he had shunned Christianity.
The musician told Alternative Press that he had distanced himself from religion while studying it at college.
“In the process of trying to defend my faith, I started thinking the other point of view was the stronger one,” he said, adding that he began using his new-found atheism as a justification for his sins.
“The first time I cheated on my wife, my interpretation of morality was now convenient for me,” he said. “I felt less guilty if I decided, ‘Well, marriage isn’t a real thing, because Christianity isn’t real. God isn’t real.’”
'Christian' band As I Lay Dying are not all as Christian as they seem
But there was money to make with As I Lay Dying, so Lambesis pretended he was still a Christian. “When kids would want to pray with us after shows, I’d be like, ‘Um, go ahead and pray!’” he said.
“We were just singing about real-life stuff. Those kids need to hear about real life because they live in a bubble.”
Lambesis insisted that As I Lay Dying toured with “more ‘Christian bands’ who actually aren’t Christians than bands that are”.
The “Nothing Left” singer was sentenced to six years in prison in March after an undercover sting operation found that he had allegedly supplied police with details and money to murder his wife.
I Googled this phrase "As I Lay Dying admits not christian", & this is at the top of the first page that was loaded with the same thing.
The only way somebody could not believe it is because they don't want to see the truth. Which is more disturbing than the article itself.
BTW, "the true colors" of the pics were quite vivid. And honest.
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Bro, read Luke 6:37. They literally had what was coming around "Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?" Isaiah 29:15, read all of Romans 3, it speaks of no one being good and everyone falling short so it's not even surprising, it's just the human condition we have. We do horrible things, everyone is a time-bomb. I am not saying what they did was right, or justified. Jesus still loves them, will forgive them if they repent, and if not then- oh well. It's obvious others are being deceived, and true colors are showing. God still loves them. That's why He sent His Son, but in this case they loved themselves more and forgot the real reason, they gained the whole world and is therefore losing their souls.
Bro, read Luke 6:37. They literally had what was coming around "Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?" Isaiah 29:15, read all of Romans 3, it speaks of no one being good and everyone falling short so it's not even surprising, it's just the human condition we have. We do horrible things, everyone is a time-bomb. I am not saying what they did was right, or justified. Jesus still loves them, will forgive them if they repent, and if not then- oh well. It's obvious others are being deceived, and true colors are showing. God still loves them. That's why He sent His Son, but in this case they loved themselves more and forgot the real reason, they gained the whole world and is therefore losing their souls.
As I Lay Dying Guitarist Nick Hipa has a Facebook account. He's not refuted anything said about the band as a whole being atheist now.
FACEBOOK Link
Good day friends,
This morning an update was posted over at www.asilaydying.com on the current happenings and individual futures of all the bands' members. For Jordan, Josh, Nick, Phil, management, and record label, this was an interesting first time read as all parties were oblivious to its construction, intent, and release.
Though Tim is the only one with access to the As I Lay Dying site, the rest of us have been releasing content through our personal social media accounts to reveal that we are carrying on in a new band. Our truest intentions were to make this unveiling interesting and exciting for anyone who has supported us over the past year. With information so instantaneous and disposable these days, we had hoped to show you how things were coming together rather than simply tell you.
We never want to capture attention dramatically, which is precisely why we've been off the radar for close to a year. Though the third-person statement released earlier compromises a lot of how we had hoped to unroll things, we remain positive in our outlooks and look forward to sharing new music soon.
With love and gratitude,
Jordan, Josh, Phil, Nick
FACEBOOK Link
Good day friends,
This morning an update was posted over at www.asilaydying.com on the current happenings and individual futures of all the bands' members. For Jordan, Josh, Nick, Phil, management, and record label, this was an interesting first time read as all parties were oblivious to its construction, intent, and release.
Though Tim is the only one with access to the As I Lay Dying site, the rest of us have been releasing content through our personal social media accounts to reveal that we are carrying on in a new band. Our truest intentions were to make this unveiling interesting and exciting for anyone who has supported us over the past year. With information so instantaneous and disposable these days, we had hoped to show you how things were coming together rather than simply tell you.
We never want to capture attention dramatically, which is precisely why we've been off the radar for close to a year. Though the third-person statement released earlier compromises a lot of how we had hoped to unroll things, we remain positive in our outlooks and look forward to sharing new music soon.
With love and gratitude,
Jordan, Josh, Phil, Nick
Maybe they have just decided they dont have a need to justify their faith to people constantly? Its honestly not a big deal in my mind. Im not even sure why we are stuck on AILD anyways. I thought this thread was about people being angry that Gungor didn't believe the creation stories in the exact fashion that they did.