California Churches Forced to Provide Abortion Coverage

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its California, home of leftwing wackos. expect anything less from that state?
 

OnThisRock

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Texas was worse. Those people think they ARE GOD. At least in California there are lost. Texas feels they have already been found.
 

T_Laurich

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This is why churches should not file the (code something) to become a tax exempt entity under the United States... By doing so they waiver full control over their practices to the Govt. (legally)....
 
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Does this not violate the rights guaranteed under the constitution and if there are any women there who choose the coverage...What does that say about their so-called Christianity.....? That they are not Christian.....the bible proves guilt by association...

Women who have the abortion
Men who allow it
Doctors who preform it
Nurses who assist in it
Insurance companies that pay for it
Medical companies that provide supplies for it
Electric company who sells the electric to do it
Real Estate companies who lease the buildings for it
Construction companies that build the offices that it takes place in

MURDERING BABIES affects a lot of people for sure...................!
 

Nautilus

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Does this not violate the rights guaranteed under the constitution and if there are any women there who choose the coverage...What does that say about their so-called Christianity.....? That they are not Christian.....the bible proves guilt by association...

Women who have the abortion
Men who allow it
Doctors who preform it
Nurses who assist in it
Insurance companies that pay for it
Medical companies that provide supplies for it
Electric company who sells the electric to do it
Real Estate companies who lease the buildings for it
Construction companies that build the offices that it takes place in

MURDERING BABIES affects a lot of people for sure...................!
So if an abortion took place in a hospital all those people are to blame? Highly unlikely.
 
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The wicked have promoted things like abortion and homsoexuality by saying it's none of our business. Then why does the rest of us always end up being forced to support something that's none of our business?
 
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So if an abortion took place in a hospital all those people are to blame? Highly unlikely.
Loose the block/box head and re-read what I wrote.....as like most things can be taken too far to the left....your statement takes my statement too far to the left and if you think the bible does not teach guilt by association I suggest further study on your part!
 

Nautilus

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The only people to blame for an abortion are the medical staff and the patient. Trying to blame construction workers or the electrical company is just dumb.
 

djness

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Loose the block/box head and re-read what I wrote.....as like most things can be taken too far to the left....your statement takes my statement too far to the left and if you think the bible does not teach guilt by association I suggest further study on your part!
dccontroversal:Medical companies that provide supplies for it
Electric company who sells the electric to do it
Real Estate companies who lease the buildings for it
Construction companies that build the offices that it takes place in
nautilus:So if an abortion took place in a hospital all those people are to blame? Highly unlikely.
I don't see how nautilus is so far off in his question. You said that even the people who sell them electricity or the construction company that built the building are guilty of abortions and therefore not christian. I mean you took it all the way and then that is your response to him{ block/box head} asking if you really mean it goes that far.

How far exactly does it go if his example is to far?
 

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Does this not violate the rights guaranteed under the constitution and if there are any women there who choose the coverage...What does that say about their so-called Christianity.....? That they are not Christian.....the bible proves guilt by association...

Women who have the abortion
Men who allow it
Doctors who preform it
Nurses who assist in it
Insurance companies that pay for it
Medical companies that provide supplies for it
Electric company who sells the electric to do it
Real Estate companies who lease the buildings for it
Construction companies that build the offices that it takes place in

MURDERING BABIES affects a lot of people for sure...................!
Taxpayers that contribute to it?
 
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Taxpayers that contribute to it?
Well...was it you who wrote the other day how Jesus held to accountability the present generation of Pharisees and how they were guilty of the blood of the innocents who had been slain all the way back to Abel....

LOOK for EVERONE including BOX BOY....I understand what you are all saying...all I am saying is at the end of the day the bible does teach guilt by association and like Crossnote brings up....What about the taxes we pay...if the money I give to Caesar is used to fund the murder of babies am I guilty? How far does it go down the line when it comes to accountability is the only point I was trying to make....Jesus said render unto Caesar and the taxes paid were also used to pay the soldiers who nailed him to the cross...were they guilty? At the end of the day we were all guilty of nailing Jesus to the cross even though I personally did not drive the spikes...I was still guilty!
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if they went that route. Once you have a culture of death then you start to excuse anything.
 

Nautilus

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once one reads the report though its not talking about abortion but rather only in cases where the quality of life would be so bad due to deformities and neurological defects that having the child live would be no more than an unnecessary burden. Im not going to lie maybe Im coldhearted but I wouldnt want to have a kid only to find out when its born that the majority of my future finances and life are going to be devoted to treating it for a mental defect that renders it incapable of any real kind of life. Would I kill it? No, but I certainly wouldnt keep it.
 
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Yes, the reports published at the JME do say that Nautilus. They are arguing that doctors should be able to murder babies they decide aren't fit to live. The criteria, of course, will change over time exactly as it has been for decades. What isn't credited as a justification for infanticide now certainly can be later. Ultimately, as society continues to degenerate, infanticide on demand for convenience may be performed en masse exactly as abortion on demand for convenience en masse has come to be a reality (which, of course, was unthinkable just decades ago).

The polling amongst young liberals is worrisome as they support the slide into murdering babies... quite possibly for convenience at a later date.

As for you personally Nautilus, I'm sure you wouldn't keep "it" as you call him or her. After all, you're a liberal.

I lived in an orphanage as a minor for a time until I reconnected with my parents (long story) and a lot of those "its" as you call them were dumped by the parents their. I lived with the "its" and helped take care of them and I can tell you that even though they have serious problems and will require 24/7 care their entire lives: they are people with feelings, a spirit, and a soul. And, believe it or not, the higher functioning "its" wonder where their parents went and in the very few cases they returned the "its" usually recognized them. They can be a blessing for many reasons that you know nothing about, but get rid of the "its" so you can party like a typical liberal... even if you have to get the state to justify murdering them. How sickening.


once one reads the report though its not talking about abortion but rather only in cases where the quality of life would be so bad due to deformities and neurological defects that having the child live would be no more than an unnecessary burden. Im not going to lie maybe Im coldhearted but I wouldnt want to have a kid only to find out when its born that the majority of my future finances and life are going to be devoted to treating it for a mental defect that renders it incapable of any real kind of life. Would I kill it? No, but I certainly wouldnt keep it.