White House outright lies about re-engagement by terrorists released from Gitmo

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Viligant_Warrior

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White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest claimed yesterday that "only 6 percent or so" of the men released from Guantanamo Bay on orders from President Obama "have been confirmed to have rejoined the fight." That's not what the numbers out of Obama's own Office of the Director of National Intelligence actually show.

FACT CHECK: Recidivism rate for freed Guantanamo detainees

As of July 15, 2014, 620 detainees have been transferred out of the detention facility.

Of the total, 107, or 17.3 percent, have been "confirmed of re-engaging," which is defined as being directly involved in terrorist or insurgent activities. Nearly half of those — 48 — are now dead or in custody.

Of the total, 77, or 12.4 percent, are "suspected of re-engaging." This category comprises detainees for whom it's plausible that they are directly involved in terrorist or insurgent activities, but it can't be verified or is based only on information from a single source. Sixteen of these 77 are now dead or in custody.
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Earnest responded to a question from FNC's Ed Henry about Republican allegations that "about 30%" of Guantanamo terrorist detainees released to foreign countries have reengaged in the fight. Obviously Earnest didn't consult his boss' Director of National Intelligence. Looks like the Republican are mostly right, though I'll give Earnest the benefit of the doubt to the extent that maybe not all of those 77 "suspected" to have rejoined al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups have actually done so.

Nonetheless, "six percent" is clearly a lie. Why does this idiot do that when, now, even Yahoo News is fact-checking his dumb out-of-thin-air pronouncements? And let's Earnest take the blame for looking stupid?
 
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Viligant_Warrior said:
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest claimed yesterday that "only 6 percent or so" of the men released from Guantanamo Bay on orders from President Obama "have been confirmed to have rejoined the fight." That's not what the numbers out of Obama's own Office of the Director of National Intelligence actually show.

Earnest responded to a question from FNC's Ed Henry about Republican allegations that "about 30%" of Guantanamo terrorist detainees released to foreign countries have reengaged in the fight. Obviously Earnest didn't consult his boss' Director of National Intelligence. Looks like the Republican are mostly right, though I'll give Earnest the benefit of the doubt to the extent that maybe not all of those 77 "suspected" to have rejoined al-Qaeda or other terrorist groups have actually done so.

Nonetheless, "six percent" is clearly a lie. Why does this idiot do that when, now, even Yahoo News is fact-checking his dumb out-of-thin-air pronouncements? And let's Earnest take the blame for looking stupid?
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Not really news.
Lies coming out of the white house is a daily thing.
If Obama and his idiots say it, I do not believe it.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Another dang thread where the underlining debate is Republican verses Democrat...............
Until people, especially us Christians, get away from the blindness that denominational names/groups and political names/groups causes. Then debates will always take place on faulty bias, as if one goes back through history we can see good and bad things done by every political party and denomination.
 
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kennethcadwell said:
Another dang thread where the underlining debate is Republican verses Democrat...............
Until people, especially us Christians, get away from the blindness that denominational names/groups and political names/groups causes. Then debates will always take place on faulty bias, as if one goes back through history we can see good and bad things done by every political party and denomination.
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I think the underlying debate is that MOST of the hacks in Washington lie. Just so happens that our current president is the best and most visible. You should change your post to "another dang thread where they call my hero onto the carpet and offend me".
 
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I think the underlying debate is that MOST of the hacks in Washington lie. Just so happens that our current president is the best and most visible. You should change your post to "another dang thread where they call my hero onto the carpet and offend me".
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No, because I do not care for Obama either.
The thing that got to me was where he said in the OP, " Looks like the Republican are mostly right. "
Most to all politicians are liars and untrustworthy, no matter what party they come from. Look at how many people have liked the Bushes, even though I did not for their policies did more damage then help the economy also. That and I found out the other day they are members of the Bohemian club, that does rituals in front of a big idol of an owl.......
 
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No, because I do not care for Obama either.
The thing that got to me was where he said in the OP, " Looks like the Republican are mostly right. "
Most to all politicians are liars and untrustworthy, no matter what party they come from. Look at how many people have liked the Bushes, even though I did not for their policies did more damage then help the economy also. That and I found out the other day they are members of the Bohemian club, that does rituals in front of a big idol of an owl.......
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Mi apologize for being agressive with you. The problem is "the people want a king" because we are too lazy and ignorant to self govern. We'd rather watch football drink beer and chase the bottomless pit of of self soothing destruction than draw near to Jesus.
 
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Mi apologize for being agressive with you. The problem is "the people want a king" because we are too lazy and ignorant to self govern. We'd rather watch football drink beer and chase the bottomless pit of of self soothing destruction than draw near to Jesus.
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As Roman poet Juvenal in the first Century said in his Satires, lamenting the continuing slide of his former Roman Republic into dictatorship: "Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt."

And the apologists for the would-be emperor counter criticism of him by making ridiculous superfluous statements about the Bushes. Note to left-wingers: They aren't president anymore -- yet.
 
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Sirk said:
Mi apologize for being agressive with you. The problem is "the people want a king" because we are too lazy and ignorant to self govern. We'd rather watch football drink beer and chase the bottomless pit of of self soothing destruction than draw near to Jesus.
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Yes it is the same old armchair politics, as a bunch of people sit around complaining about how things are going. But can not get hardly any of them to actually stand up, and if they do stand up..Then they give up to quickly.
 
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Viligant_Warrior said:
As Roman poet Juvenal in the first Century said in his Satires, lamenting the continuing slide of his former Roman Republic into dictatorship: "Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt."

And the apologists for the would-be emperor counter criticism of him by making ridiculous superfluous statements about the Bushes. Note to left-wingers: They aren't president anymore -- yet.
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This is not ridiculous superfluous statements about the Bushes, and yes I know they are not presidents any more.
Yet they are still defended by those who do not truly know them. Just look up information on the Bohemian group, and you will find out they are members.....
 
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This is not ridiculous superfluous statements about the Bushes, and yes I know they are not presidents any more.
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Yeah, OK, whatever ...

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kennethcadwell said:
Yet they are still defended by those who do not truly know them. Just look up information on the Bohemian group, and you will find out they are members.....
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I will, right after I finish my treatise on the Trilateral Commission and my exposé on the Illuminati.

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kennethcadwell said:
This is not ridiculous superfluous statements about the Bushes, and yes I know they are not presidents any more.
Yet they are still defended by those who do not truly know them. Just look up information on the Bohemian group, and you will find out they are members.....
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Rushing to poopoo any negative post about Obama does have the appearance of being disingenuous about your real heart on the matter. Just saying.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Rushing to poopoo any negative post about Obama does have the appearance of being disingenuous about your real heart on the matter. Just saying.
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The same can be said back to the one who is doing the negativity toward Obama.
We are called to show love to all, no matter if we disagree with them or not. I have seen way to many threads from my brothers and sisters in Christ bashing this man, but in the same breath defending the republican party. My thing is to do what the bible says, and that is to shut down foolish debates. Remember the antichrist system is very deceptive, and will influence people from all denominations and political party.
Before we jump on the band wagon and support or defend anybody, I suggest to those to actually do a back ground check on those individuals first and pay very very close attention to what they say. Like I said before I am not a Obama supporter, nor am I a democrat.........
 
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You know by releasing them back to the fight it makes killing a lot easier with a lot less paperwork...just saying
 
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You know by releasing them back to the fight it makes killing a lot easier with a lot less paperwork...just saying
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Who's gonna kill 'em? We have no one in Iraq and only a 10,000 advisors whose Rules of Engagement prevent them from taking any but defensive action in Afghanistan. Unless a lucky drone happens to spot one of them out in public ...
 
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The thing that got to me was where he said in the OP, " Looks like the Republican are mostly right. "
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You know, your self-righteous condemnation of "all things political" would be a lot more persuasive if you had ever said anything positive about Republicans. You often make supportive statements of Democrats, including Obama, but this quote, especially, belies your "neutrality."

I guess you think it is impossible for Republicans to be right about anything, so you reject my OP because it credits Republicans with being "mostly right"? Note, I didn't say they were totally right, or promote, champion, or congratulate their statements. In fact, my OP says Ed Henry asked Earnest about "Republicans allegations" that the numbers from State and the White House were wrong. You understand the word "allegations," right?

Drop the "holier-than-thou" routine. It doesn't wash. You're a liberal who supports Obama. We'd probably get along a lot better if you'd just admit that instead of trying to pontificate while appearing godly in the process.
 
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You know, your self-righteous condemnation of "all things political" would be a lot more persuasive if you had ever said anything positive about Republicans. You often make supportive statements of Democrats, including Obama, but this quote, especially, belies your "neutrality."

I guess you think it is impossible for Republicans to be right about anything, so you reject my OP because it credits Republicans with being "mostly right"? Note, I didn't say they were totally right, or promote, champion, or congratulate their statements. In fact, my OP says Ed Henry asked Earnest about "Republicans allegations" that the numbers from State and the White House were wrong. You understand the word "allegations," right?

Drop the "holier-than-thou" routine. It doesn't wash. You're a liberal who supports Obama. We'd probably get along a lot better if you'd just admit that instead of trying to pontificate while appearing godly in the process.
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No I am not an Obama supporter as he has done things that I don't agree with like his obamacare, and making health insurance mandatory before making it affordable. When he wanted to rush into Syria, back when he first took office. And other things he has done or should say not done yet.
The thing is that I don't have much to be happy with when it comes to the republican party either, as I have been brought up in the Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush jr., Obama era's. I come from a middle class family that under Reagan and the Bushes struggled to survive because of their policies, and then life got easier under Clinton as he cleaned up some of Bush sr. mess. Then between Bush jr. and Obama the economy went back to shambles.....
Now between the last republican congress members before the election, and now the new republican congress we have nothing from them has still yet to get done. Instead they are still screaming impeachment, and government shut down.....
Why have confidence in a group that is not getting anything done, and puts their faith in members that just want to scream for war all the time like McCain.......
 
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Sirk

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kennethcadwell said:
The same can be said back to the one who is doing the negativity toward Obama.
We are called to show love to all, no matter if we disagree with them or not. I have seen way to many threads from my brothers and sisters in Christ bashing this man, but in the same breath defending the republican party. My thing is to do what the bible says, and that is to shut down foolish debates. Remember the antichrist system is very deceptive, and will influence people from all denominations and political party.
Before we jump on the band wagon and support or defend anybody, I suggest to those to actually do a back ground check on those individuals first and pay very very close attention to what they say. Like I said before I am not a Obama supporter, nor am I a democrat.........
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Not really. I think it's fairly clear where VW stands on the issues....at least as far as I'm concerned. You do have the appearance of grinding your axe everytime our dear leader is criticized. As for me I look at politics as a combination of two words. Poli=many
tics=bloodsuckers.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Not really. I think it's fairly clear where VW stands on the issues....at least as far as I'm concerned. You do have the appearance of grinding your axe everytime our dear leader is criticized. As for me I look at politics as a combination of two words. Poli=many
tics=bloodsuckers.
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Well the way I have seen from politics here lately is either vote for evil or eviler, depending which one at the time is set for a worse running. Just like this last election between Obama and Romney, people had to vote for the lesser of two evils.......Bad healthcare plan vs. Bad home tax policy plan
 
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yes, sometimes it does seem to be a choice of getting hit in the head or pucnched in the gut.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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kennethcadwell said:
... Obama and Romney, people had to vote for the lesser of two evils.......Bad healthcare plan vs. Bad home tax policy plan
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Yeah, having to choose between a bankrupting socialist program vs. a true economic stimulus plan certainly is dastardly dilemma.

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