Idiot in White House doubles down on "jobs" as answer to terrorism

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Viligant_Warrior

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Not enough that airhead "intellectual" Marie Harf at State said it the other day, President Dumba** reinforced it with the outline of what appears to be his proposal for an "international program" of economic actions that supposedly will alleviate terror by putting the animals to work.

Obama says world should address ‘grievances’ that terrorists exploit

WASHINGTON – President Obama defended his administration’s approach to the terror threat at a White House summit Wednesday, standing by claims that groups like the Islamic State do not represent Islam -- as well as assertions that job creation could help combat extremism.
Somehow, someway, this clown needs to be legally removed from office. He is incompetent, ideologically bankrupt, morally and spiritually dead. Never has there been a more clueless idiot in the office, a more anti-American American politician. He's gotta go.

The majority of the American people want to see action against ISIS and other terror groups -- not necessarily U.S. troops on the ground, but some active leadership in the world's effort to destroy this nest of animals rising up in the Mideast. Organize the military effort, provide the U.S.'s second-to-none intelligence apparatus and technology, provide combat management of the effort, and actually act like we want to do as our idiot-in-chief keeps mouthing as platitudes -- destroy ISIS.

Instead we get jobs programs and social engineering. Terrorists don't want jobs! They want Israelis dead! They want Christians dead! They want the U.S. dead! Wake up, Dumb**! You're losing the war!
 
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sveinen

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the working man....
nobility..
 
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1still_waters

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Hey OP, I think he's taking George W Bush's lead on blaming poverty and such as a cause of terrorism.

Bush to the UN in 2002.

Many here today have devoted their lives to the fight against global poverty, and you know the stakes. We fight against poverty because hope is an answer to terror. We fight against poverty because opportunity is a fundamental right to human dignity. We fight against poverty because faith requires it and conscience demands it. And we fight against poverty with a growing conviction that major progress is within our reach.
We will challenge the poverty and hopelessness and lack of education and failed governments that too often allow conditions that terrorists can seize and try to turn to their advantage. [President George W. Bush's Remarks To The International Conference on Financing for
Bush in 2005
Yet we know that this war will not be won by force of arms alone. We must defeat the terrorists on the battlefield and we must also defeat them in the battle of ideas.We must change the conditions that allow terrorists to flourish and recruit by spreading the hope of freedom to millions who've never known it. We must help raise up the failing states and stagnant societies that provide fertile ground for the terrorists. We must defend and extend a vision of human dignity and opportunity and prosperity, a vision far stronger than the dark appeal of resentment and murder.
To spread the vision of hope the United States is determined to help nations that are struggling with poverty.
 
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1still_waters

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The majority of the American people want to see action against ISIS and other terror groups -- not necessarily U.S. troops on the ground,

Check.

Obama to Announce Coalition on ISIS, Pledge No Boots on the Ground
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/11/obama-proposes-war-authorization-against-islamic-state/

but some active leadership in the world's effort to destroy this nest of animals rising up in the Mideast.
Organize the military effort, provide the U.S.'s second-to-none intelligence apparatus and technology, provide combat management of the effort, and actually act like we want to do as our idiot-in-chief keeps mouthing as platitudes -- destroy ISIS.
Obama opens door to 'limited' ground combat operations against ISIS | Fox News
Obama opens door to 'limited' ground combat operations against ISIS | Fox News
Obama, Jordanian king vow to continue campaign against ISIS | Fox News
President Obama asks Congress to authorize military force against ISIS | Fox News Latino

US-led coalition airstrikes pound ISIS stronghold in Syria | Fox News
US airstrikes slow ISIS advance on Kobani, as momentum shifts to Kurds | Fox News

As far as things not going quick enough. Meh if you were fine keeping troops in Iraq for 13+ years to "win", can you at least give the airstrikes at least a year to "win" too? Jus sayin.
 
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1still_waters

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As of October 2014 airstrikes killed around 600 total according to this.

U.S. and Arab warplanes have killed hundreds of militants since September
Total of 553 people died in the bombing raids - most of them in Kobane
32 civilians were killed alongside jihadists - including women and six children
Strikes also killed 57 Al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front troops elsewhere in Syria


US airstrikes have killed 464 ISIS fighters and 57 others in Syria, report claims | Daily Mail Online

Coalition building takes time, and getting people to commit ground troops also takes time. Again, if you can permit 10+ years in Iraq to "win" and 13+ in Afghanistan to win, then give some time to these airstrikes and coalition building.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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This article claims that by January 2015 airstrikes had killed 6000 ISIS and taken half of their leadership.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...illed-6-000-ISIS-fighters-U-S-ambassador.html
If airstrikes had killed 6,000 ISIS terrorists out of the 40,000 active fighters -- that's 15% of their numbers -- they would have been devastated and reeling. Instead, they are advancing in Iraq, have established a presence in Libya, and are giving a superior force in the Kurds a difficult time in northern Iraq.

Given the source of the article, I not only take it with a grain of salt, I reject it outright. Propaganda. Nothing more.
 
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1still_waters

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If airstrikes had killed 6,000 ISIS terrorists out of the 40,000 active fighters -- that's 15% of their numbers -- they would have been devastated and reeling. Instead, they are advancing in Iraq, have established a presence in Libya, and are giving a superior force in the Kurds a difficult time in northern Iraq.

Given the source of the article, I not only take it with a grain of salt, I reject it outright. Propaganda. Nothing more.
It hasn't even been a year dude.

Were you fine with keeping troops in iraq for 10+ years so there was ample time to win?
If yes, then show some consistency and at least give these airstrikes as much time, and the coalition building as much time.
 
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1still_waters

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Instead, they are advancing in Iraq, have established a presence in Libya, and are giving a superior force in the Kurds a difficult time in northern Iraq.

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This source says ISIS fighters are failing so much, their leader is ordering them executed.
ISIS leader orders failed fighters executed, says report | Fox News

This source says ISIS admits defeat in Kobani.
ISIS fighters admit defeat in Syrian town of Kobani | Fox News

This source says ISIS is in financial desperation.
$200M ransom demand a sign of ISIS' financial desperation, say experts | Fox News
 

p_rehbein

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Bush was as wrong as Obama is! With "jobs" and/or financial opportunity being the answer to Radical Islamic Terrorists.

Pretty simple to prove actually. Our unemployment rate right now is what? 4.8 to 5%? The REAL number should include those unemployed seeking jobs, those underemployed seeking better jobs, those who have simply given up looking for a job, and those living off the Social Welfare Programs here because it's better than a minimum wage job.

Must be near 20 to 25% of the population OR MORE. Current US population exceeds 320 Million people. If 1/3 of these are children not old enough to work, that still leaves 215 Million give or take. 20% of that would be 21.5 Million people who do not have a job, or are in a dead end job with no future or HOPE as suggested by both Bush and Obama.

How many of these 21.5 Million people have taken up arms, overthrown City, County, State Governments, declared war on the US itself? How many have taken hostages, raped, tortured, beaten, beheaded and burned said hostages?

Clearly, the answer to Radical Islamic Terrorists can not be said to be a "lack of opportunities (jobs), or HOPE of a better future............

Now, nothing wrong with wanting to assist poor people around the world improve their lives........but to suggest doing so would prevent people from becoming terrorists is inane.
 

PennEd

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Hey OP, I think he's taking George W Bush's lead on blaming poverty and such as a cause of terrorism.

Bush to the UN in 2002.





Bush in 2005
Why do you insist on Bringing up GWB every time someone shows how depraved the democrats in general and obama inparticular is? We get it, you don't like Bush, how about addressing the point, instead of reverting back to a man that hasn't been in charge for over 6 years? If you want to directly compare the 2 men I don't see how you have a Christian leg to stand on.

One is pro-life the other is so anti-life he voted against treatment for botched aborted babies who survived an attempt on their life.
One is for one man,one woman as the only legitimate marriage.The other has been so virently opposed to Biblical traditional marriage that he refused to uphold the law that was passed by congress and signed by Bill Clinton:the defense of marriage act.
One put Islamic terrorists in prison, the other released same Islamic terrorists to resume their terrorism.

I could go on and on with the stark differences between the 2, and how the current president should have been impeached 10 times over ... IRS, Fast and furious, Executive fiat with obamacare and immigration to name a few. But for the life of me I can't figure out how a Christian can support this man. THAT is a separate issue than praying for him.

Obama: 'Islam Has Been Woven Into the Fabric of Our Country Since Its Founding' | CNS News
 
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1still_waters

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, but some active leadership in the world's effort to destroy this nest of animals rising up in the Mideast. Organize the military effort, provide the U.S.'s second-to-none intelligence apparatus and technology, provide combat management of the effort, and actually act like we want to do as our idiot-in-chief keeps mouthing as platitudes -- destroy ISIS.

What the 60-plus members of the anti-Islamic State coalition are doing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/09/25/what-the-60-members-of-the-anti-islamic-state-coalition-are-doing/




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JesusLives

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Who ever decided that it would be a good idea to send our jobs over to other countries just to save on labor costs....that's the one we need to take out and shoot....o.k. I'm really against that idea but it sounded good right?
 
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1still_waters

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Why do you insist on Bringing up GWB every time someone shows how depraved the democrats in general and obama inparticular is? We get it, you don't like Bush, how about addressing the point, instead of reverting back to a man that hasn't been in charge for over 6 years? If you want to directly compare the 2 men I don't see how you have a Christian leg to stand on.

One is pro-life the other is so anti-life he voted against treatment for botched aborted babies who survived an attempt on their life.
One is for one man,one woman as the only legitimate marriage.The other has been so virently opposed to Biblical traditional marriage that he refused to uphold the law that was passed by congress and signed by Bill Clinton:the defense of marriage act.
One put Islamic terrorists in prison, the other released same Islamic terrorists to resume their terrorism.

I could go on and on with the stark differences between the 2, and how the current president should have been impeached 10 times over ... IRS, Fast and furious, Executive fiat with obamacare and immigration to name a few. But for the life of me I can't figure out how a Christian can support this man. THAT is a separate issue than praying for him.

Obama: 'Islam Has Been Woven Into the Fabric of Our Country Since Its Founding' | CNS News
Because there wasn't the same level of outrage at the same things Bush did at the time, which causes me to wonder about the sincerity of the outrage now.

Bush rocked on pro-life, pro-same sex marriage, pro-Jesus matters.

But he is much like Obama on issues I've brought up now, just wondering why there wasn't the same level of outrage in the past over that stuff.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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It hasn't even been a year dude.
Air power alone doesn't win wars. That's a proven fact since the first spotter plane pilot in WWI threw a grenade out of the cockpit at a machine gun nest -- and missed.

Were you fine with keeping troops in iraq for 10+ years so there was ample time to win?
I was in favor of keeping advisory personnel in place as we did after Desert Storm, as doing so would have actually prevented ISIS from rising up to fill a vacuum.

If yes, then show some consistency and at least give these airstrikes as much time, and the coalition building as much time.[/QUOTE]As I said, air power doesn't win wars, and the way this war is being prosecuted, we will lose it in less than a year, as evidenced by the coming fall of Iraq and Syria.

This source says ISIS fighters are failing so much, their leader is ordering them executed.
ISIS leader orders failed fighters executed, says report | Fox News

This source says ISIS admits defeat in Kobani.
ISIS fighters admit defeat in Syrian town of Kobani | Fox News

This source says ISIS is in financial desperation.
$200M ransom demand a sign of ISIS' financial desperation, say experts | Fox News
Its one thing to have individual victories on any front in a war -- be it in combat, the financial battle, or wherever -- and quite another to actually be defeating the enemy. We are not doing this last, and until we become the leader in the effort that we should have established ourselves as by not withdrawing all troops from Iraq in President Dumba**'s prideful arrogance that he knows military strategy better than the generals who have been steeped in it for 20 or more years, we won't be doing that any time soon.
 

PennEd

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Because there wasn't the same level of outrage at the same things Bush did at the time, which causes me to wonder about the sincerity of the outrage now.

Bush rocked on pro-life, pro-same sex marriage, pro-Jesus matters.

But he is much like Obama on issues I've brought up now, just wondering why there wasn't the same level of outrage in the past over that stuff.
Well I can tell you I WAS outraged at Bush over Katrina, even though the democrat gov and mayor bore a greater blame, I was sick with disgust that we could get (federal) help quicker the previous year to the Tsunami victims of 04, yet couldn't seem to help the people of New Orleans. I was also disgusted with Bush over the Medicare expansion and huge increase in Gov. spending. BUT, I mean there is literally no comparison between the bad Bush did with the downright evil obama is doing.
 
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and until we become the leader in the effort that we should have established ourselves as by not withdrawing all troops from Iraq in President Dumba**'s prideful arrogance that he knows military strategy better than the generals who have been steeped in it for 20 or more years, we won't be doing that any time soon.
What the 60-plus members of the anti-Islamic State coalition are doing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/09/25/what-the-60-members-of-the-anti-islamic-state-coalition-are-doing/

U.S.-led coalition strikes ISIS fighters attacking Syrian border with Turkey


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/28/us-led-coalition-strikes-isis-fighters-attacking-syrian-town-near-turkey-border/

US-led coalition intensifies airstrikes against ISIS in Kobani

US-led coalition intensifies airstrikes against ISIS in Kobani | Fox News
 

p_rehbein

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They said they were going to do this, so it isn't big News............but, they ALSO said that "killing them" won't resolve the issue. This is when they brought in the concept of "jobs" and "economic growth" to prevent terrorist activities.

Just saying.........
 
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Maybe we should start a sword factory over there so they no longer have to use those little knives... their productivity will go through the roof. While we're at it... hire them as secret service agents and we'll see what Obama's opinion is then...
 

PennEd

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Maybe we should start a sword factory over there so they no longer have to use those little knives... their productivity will go through the roof. While we're at it... hire them as secret service agents and we'll see what Obama's opinion is then...
If it wasn't so sadly true, I'd be triple lolling your post!