Rand Paul At Pastors' Breakfast: Says It's Time For Revival

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G4JC

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[h=2]Rand Paul At Pastors' Breakfast: Says It's Time For Revival[/h]In video you will ONLY see on The Brody File, soon-to-be presidential candidate Rand Paul tells pastors and religious leaders at a private prayer breakfast that ultimately Washington DC politicians won’t solve America’s problems and instead a spiritual revival is what is needed. ““We need a revival in the country. We need another Great Awakening with tent revivals of thousands of people saying reform or see what’s going to happen if we don’t reform.”

This event took place at the Capitol Hill Club in Washington DC Thursday morning. Our camera was the only one in the room. This was a prayer breakfast that came about because Senator Paul was interested in having the discussion with pastors and the religious leaders were also asking to meet with Senator Paul as well. It was mutual. There were roughly 50 people in attendance. Some of the more notable names were David Lane with the American Renewal project, Former Congressman J.C. Watts, Dr. Jerry Johnson, CEO of National Religious Broadcasters and plenty of pastors from all over the country.

The focus of the prayer breakfast was a chance for Senator Paul to discuss his views on religious freedom, the church & U.S.-Israel relations, faith & public life, and the essential role the church plays in the U.S. Government.

You can watch a clip from the prayer breakfast below along with a small partial transcription. You’ll need to watch the whole clip to get everything.

Finally, let me just say this: Rand Paul IS going to get a chunk of the evangelical vote. On the surface, he may not be the guy you might think would appeal to evangelicals but take a deeper look. He’ll have a pretty good appeal to millennial evangelicals and his talk of spiritual revival resonates. Plus, he’s going through great lengths to show how pro-Israel he is despite some who might question him on that. And remember this: this is not some “crazy libertarian” who wants to distance himself from faith and government issues. He understands the connection and he’s willing to talk about it in public. Also, he’s been courting relationships within the evangelical community for some time. That helps so while he’s not going to wear his faith on his sleeve as much as some of the other candidates, his heart seems to be in the right place.

Rand Paul: “The First Amendment says keep government out of religion. It doesn’t say keep religion out of government.”

Rand Paul: “We’re the most disconnected city on the planet from the people so don’t have a lot of faith in what’s going on up here.”

Rand Paul: “We need a revival in the country. We need another Great Awakening with tent revivals of thousands of people saying reform or see what’s going to happen if we don’t reform.”
 

skipp

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It's clever of him to court the evangelical voting base. There are far more evangelicals out there than hard core libertarians.

If we have a revival it won't be at the request of a power hungry politician.
 

AngelFrog

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Yet another Paul who doesn't stand a chance. Anyone can run for the office, it's getting on the ticket that counts.
Rand Paul's heterodox views on policy, foreign and domestic, would put him out of a serious run. This is yet another case where a politicians past will catch up with him.
But it stands that he'll court the Evangelical base and push the buttons of their worst fears as he puts himself out as the answer to their prayers.

Won't help though.
 
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the fact that rand paul was speaking at a pastor's breakfast instead of getting kicked out of a pastor's breakfast means that revival is still a long way off...
 
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jahsoul

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Yet another Paul who doesn't stand a chance. Anyone can run for the office, it's getting on the ticket that counts.
Rand Paul's heterodox views on policy, foreign and domestic, would put him out of a serious run. This is yet another case where a politicians past will catch up with him.
But it stands that he'll court the Evangelical base and push the buttons of their worst fears as he puts himself out as the answer to their prayers.

Won't help though.
And that's why this country is in the condition that it is today. How has our foreign policy benefited this country and what has it done for OUR national defense?

But I digress, if we had more "informed" voters who has actually read the US Constitution and the documents of the nations forefathers would understand that the libertarian (or classical liberal) viewpoint was what this country was founded on. Paul is only unelectable because people would rather continue to vote in people who push policies that has been shown not to work.

I hate people feel that they have to cater to different groups. I could never and will never align myself as an "evangelical" voter because of what a lot of them I spoke with believes. The people I spoke with believe that government should legislate morality, but with the way our government is set up and the laws of the land (Freedom of Religion, which is a *gasp* classical liberal/libertarian concept), whose morality would we adhere to? But I digress, I just feel a certain kind of way when people are deem "unelectable" when they don't conform to policies that clearly aren't and hasn't been working. Most people didn't like Ron Paul because the GOP establishment told them not too. One party believes in welfare and the other believes in warfare, but both are clearly destroying this country.
 

p_rehbein

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It's clever of him to court the evangelical voting base. There are far more evangelicals out there than hard core libertarians.

If we have a revival it won't be at the request of a power hungry politician.
just wondering, is it not possible that he is sincere in his beliefs?
 
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jahsoul

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just wondering, is it not possible that he is sincere in his beliefs?
Exactly; nobody was saying things like this regarding Ted Cruz. What makes Cruz sincere and Paul not?
 
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jahsoul

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the fact that rand paul was speaking at a pastor's breakfast instead of getting kicked out of a pastor's breakfast means that revival is still a long way off...
Why would Rand get kicked out of a pastor's breakfast?
 

p_rehbein

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But I digress, if we had more "informed" voters who has actually read the US Constitution and the documents of the nations forefathers would understand that the libertarian (or classical liberal) viewpoint was what this country was founded on. Paul is only unelectable because people would rather continue to vote in people who push policies that has been shown not to work.

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I have actually read the Constitution and the various writings of the Founding Fathers, and I did not read where any of them endorsed the libertarian party.......or the classis liberal views concerning Government. Do you have examples of this?

If you want, I can provide you with a link to the US Constitution.............
 
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jahsoul

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But I digress, if we had more "informed" voters who has actually read the US Constitution and the documents of the nations forefathers would understand that the libertarian (or classical liberal) viewpoint was what this country was founded on. Paul is only unelectable because people would rather continue to vote in people who push policies that has been shown not to work.

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I have actually read the Constitution and the various writings of the Founding Fathers, and I did not read where any of them endorsed the libertarian party.......or the classis liberal views concerning Government. Do you have examples of this?

If you want, I can provide you with a link to the US Constitution.............
I didn't say ANYTHING about a Libertarian Party. The libertarian point of view comes from classical liberalism. And I invite you to read on classical liberalism. The Bill of Rights set in place a limited federal government and individual liberties. And no need for a link for a Constitution; I have a few hard copies at home..lol
 

p_rehbein

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I didn't say ANYTHING about a Libertarian Party. The libertarian point of view comes from classical liberalism. And I invite you to read on classical liberalism. The Bill of Rights set in place a limited federal government and individual liberties. And no need for a link for a Constitution; I have a few hard copies at home..lol
So, you are saying that classic "liberalism" is ACTUALLY far right ultra conservatism? Hmm

What form of Government is "named" in the Constitution?

the libertarian party projects libertarian principles...........so what exactly is the diff?
 
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jahsoul

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So, you are saying that classic "liberalism" is ACTUALLY far right ultra conservatism? Hmm

What form of Government is "named" in the Constitution?

the libertarian party projects libertarian principles...........so what exactly is the diff?
Actually not. And if that is the case, that means that our founders were far right ultra conservatives then.

-Limited federal governement
-Free market capitalism without the use of central banks
-The individual's rights are protected

If these are considered far right ultra conservatism. And the form of Government called for in the Constitution is a democratic republic, which was set in place to deter a true democracy, which the founders thought were evil.

Also, how is one considered conservative?
 

G4JC

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Classic liberalism, probably was apart of early conservatism. Take a look at Bastiat's the Law for example. It endorsed God as well as free market values.

Libertarianism is a mix. There are liberals and conservatives in the movement. There are Libertarian social-conservatives.
At any rate, getting back on topic. Rand and Cruz both share many of the same policies (look at voting record on Audit the Fed, etc.), however their foreign policy differs.

I'd be quite happy if Rand and Cruz could run together at some point, it would be an amazing libertarian/conservative mix.
That would balance Rand's libertarianism with strong social-conservatism of Cruz.
 
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They call the government officials "civil servants" or sometimes "public servants."

Seems that would make us the kings.
 
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jahsoul

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They call the government officials "civil servants" or sometimes "public servants."

Seems that would make us the kings.
LOL...considering the only things most of them serve are self interest and shady corporations, what would that make us kings of.
 
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LOL...considering the only things most of them serve are self interest and shady corporations, what would that make us kings of.
Lol that still proves that they are only servants. The different agendas and interests that the many kings dictate the servants to carry out, that is even called politics.
 

Desdichado

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Multiple candidates are appealing to the Christian end of the base because we are seen as a large, disenfranchised, voting block that could propel them in the primaries and the generals. That and I'm convinced a few of them are genuine followers of Christ. Sometimes possible political advantage and one's principles coincide. People castigate it for being Machiavellian, but that situation is the ideal.

Either way, it's another episode of Rand Paul trying to rebuild and extend the GOP base.
 
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Multiple candidates are appealing to the Christian end of the base because we are seen as a large, disenfranchised, voting block that could propel them in the primaries and the generals. That and I'm convinced a few of them are genuine followers of Christ. Sometimes possible political advantage and one's principles coincide. People castigate it for being Machiavellian, but that situation is the ideal.

Either way, it's another episode of Rand Paul trying to rebuild and extend the GOP base.
An apt analysis Desdichado. It is well known how the politicians do pander to the Christians because Christians are both a huge bloc and also they actually get out and vote. Even moreso, Christians follow the politics after the vote.

I do especially agree with that last sentence. Realistically, Rand Paul will not win. However it is truth, he is perhaps the most deserving of the nomination as it be he is the only GOPer in the running, and even outside of the running, that I have seen even try to reunify the disparate factions of the GOP within the past two years.
 

Desdichado

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An apt analysis Desdichado. It is well known how the politicians do pander to the Christians because Christians are both a huge bloc and also they actually get out and vote. Even moreso, Christians follow the politics after the vote.

I do especially agree with that last sentence. Realistically, Rand Paul will not win. However it is truth, he is perhaps the most deserving of the nomination as it be he is the only GOPer in the running, and even outside of the running, that I have seen even try to reunify the disparate factions of the GOP within the past two years.
You completely agree with me. That's a first. Should I drop the mic and end my career on a high note?

We Christians tend to underestimate our true level of influence in American politics. It isn't what it once was, of course. Especially when it comes to pull in the general culture. But our potential power on election day is not inconsiderable.