Worldwide idol statues mocking God.
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That bull statue without further specification is found on financial district in Manhattan symbolizing Wall Street, and there is another exactly the same statue from the same artist in similar area in Shanghai.
It symbolizes strong economy so it's basically their lucky charm, it symbolizes prosperity. A lot of people come and do superstitious rituals there to become rich or get "good luck". So these two actually qualify as pagan as these people place their faith in the statue or whatever else out of God.
If some have nothing to contribute but mockery to this thread, you can as well skip it, you benefit only your own ego.
I didnt ask of people anything controversial just pray about this. And I will publish what was put on my conscience, no matter what some will say.
It symbolizes strong economy so it's basically their lucky charm, it symbolizes prosperity. A lot of people come and do superstitious rituals there to become rich or get "good luck". So these two actually qualify as pagan as these people place their faith in the statue or whatever else out of God.
If some have nothing to contribute but mockery to this thread, you can as well skip it, you benefit only your own ego.
I didnt ask of people anything controversial just pray about this. And I will publish what was put on my conscience, no matter what some will say.
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This should be in "conspiracy", not in "news"
btw maker of the vid should never come to Holland,
we love to paint plastic cows: it's ART, not pagan worship.
btw maker of the vid should never come to Holland,
we love to paint plastic cows: it's ART, not pagan worship.
A question like this causes an immediate need to peruse your Profile Page, and, as I suspected..................
[h=5]About kedge[/h]Gender:maleMarital Status:not marriedSpiritual Status:unsure
One is either a believer or one isn't, there is no "unsure." Ergo.............and this explains the disrespectful comment about the Cross and Jesus Christ. For when one disrespects the Cross, they disrespect Christ and God the Father.
[h=5]About kedge[/h]Gender:maleMarital Status:not marriedSpiritual Status:unsure
One is either a believer or one isn't, there is no "unsure." Ergo.............and this explains the disrespectful comment about the Cross and Jesus Christ. For when one disrespects the Cross, they disrespect Christ and God the Father.
Seems the worship of cows and bulls is rampant world wide......millions of starving people in India and they refuse to eat their now dead ancestor who came back as a cow......must be a real MOOOOOving experience to die and come back as a cow or a bug or something like that......tragic for sure......I think I will have a steak tonight
This should be in "conspiracy", not in "news"
btw maker of the vid should never come to Holland,
we love to paint plastic cows: it's ART, not pagan worship.
btw maker of the vid should never come to Holland,
we love to paint plastic cows: it's ART, not pagan worship.
Dear brother, I am certainly not saying that the people who have participated in these manifestations are pagan worshipers! That is not my message, such would be legalistic. God looks on the heart. What God put on me to share the spiritual discernment of some form of idolatrous spirit that is tied to this manifestation and some other statues out there like that one in Wall Street. I do not understand this fully yet myself but until it is revealed, I will trust the Holy Spirit guidance. It might be that the artists who have started this event, or leading people from the company that is in charge of the parades, have occultic connections and this would explain everything, it is hard to get this info though.
There is one more part to this that I did not share in the video, this spirit was revealed to me in vision and when I asked a few fellow believers to intercede against this, they knew certain specifics about the spirit's appearance without me giving them details, as it was revealed to them by the Spirit while they prayed.
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Now this post will be a little longer, please bear with me guys... Another thing that this event has led me to and that is rather the point of this video, was that the Spirit strongly directed my attention to the fact that evil spirits might and do manifest in localities and objects. This matter is not really covered in the church, and might be God wanted me to bring this into awareness more so we can all share our experiences and learn from one another. At the same time I want to thank those who have already done so on this thread for meaningful conversation. Let us not just dismiss or ignore things we do not quite understand. I do not believe that any of these things has dominion over the believer - Christ has all the authority. But do hear what I have to say, because these things do manifest and we need to be open enough to discern this and prayerfully deal with it, being instructed by the Holy Spirit. I am merely sharing a testimony in best intent for consideration and edification. You are free to take it with a grain of salt, of course. It's hard to debate about what someone has personally witnessed so at best all I can do is share.
You have probably heard testimonies of tribal art objects that people bought as souvenirs in Africa or elsewhere and that turned out to be demonic objects, per example ritual masks. So if something is art and not a specific ritual object, it does not mean that it cannot have demons attached to it, it is just the question of who is making the art and what is in their heart when they make it. I have read one such testimony here on the forum quite recently, and that was definitely not the first of that kind that I've ran into, it's actually common. I have read online similar things happening to people about crystals that were used in New Age context, as well.
I happened to have nightmares in the past once when I've just moved, because some old tenant's stuff was still there, and the content of my nightmares, as I found later, corresponded to it. I was unaware of this at first - I didnt need that storage space so I just didnt even look what was inside, but after having nightmares I was led to do so. My nightmares corresponded to her books, so I trashed her stuff (knowing that she was not coming back, else I'd just take it out of my space) and prayed over the apartment and it stopped.
Now, localities. p_rehbein mentioned New Orleans. I have not personally been there, but I believe he is discerning the spirit of voodoo, which is also present - at least often as I cannot claim for all cases - in blues music. I believe it is for this reason this genre encourages depression, as the very name says. I don't know if this has happened to you, but some localities just suffocate and give creeps without obvious reasons. When I already mention voodoo and blues: it is common knowledge that demons like crossroads. I have heard a testimony on YouTube from a fellow sister in Christ that her little son has prayed in his walk that God sends His holy angels or something to that effect, to guard, and later that day, or the next day, a car hit some child on the crossroad where he prayed and the child fell under the wheels but was unharmed. The little boy was overjoyed about how angels saved somebody because he prayed over a place. I might have given a bit innacurate testimony as I have heard this years ago, but basically that was it. It has made me consider these things. How much difference we can make as Christians when we claim not just spiritual places (souls) but also physical places, for Christ and when we invite His presence into an area, to influence unbelievers that pass through the area? Since then I pray over my home, and when I remember, over other places. When you have guests and people carry a bad spirit around, this spirit might stay lingering in your house afterwards. I have experienced this more than once and I pray now after such visits. Then there are famous places that just have extremely bad spirits alltogether, where terrible things happened before, and in some of these places these things continue to happen without obvious reasons. Like suicides and accidents. I believe there are strong demons at work in these areas and they continue their work because there is no proper prayer warfare as instructed by God. --- "My people perish for the lack of knowledge"
We cannot draw sure conclusions of how and why these demonic manifestations happen, but we can rest assured that in Christ we are victorious. What I am only urging people about is to be open to discerning and considering these things, because Holy Spirit will provide His guidance and use us if we are open to Him.
I have searched for the answers about this in the Scriptures, especially the New Testament. (Feel free to bring more relevant Scriptures for discussion if you remember them.)
Acts 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
These occultic books definitely had a bad spirit lingering in them and were to be destroyed. So if we have any personal possessions of this kind, the Bible indicates that it should be burnt with fire if possible (fire has deep meaning of full destruction). Maybe it is not that these objects need it - but that we need it? However it be, let us be open to God's instruction is what I plead dear brothers and sisters. Then, NT is surely not being legalistic, but oil was recommended for anointing by both Jesus (during fasting) and the apostles (for praying over the sick). Surely it is enough to just pray, too, but for some reason God instructs it is good to use an object (oil) here for a blessed purpose, although surely the power is not in the oil, but in God, so it would be enough to just pray. I am anointing my house when led, too, although I usually just pray. As I said, it might be that sometimes we need things and God instructs us so in His wisdom for our sakes, not that they are necessary to resolve the situation. But in general, there are many mysteries in this area... I am preaching that we allow the Spirit to use us in this regard if He wills. I believe we should follow God's guidance in any individual case.
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Witty remark, though, I have to say.I've just checked your profile and it also says about you "spiritual status: unsure".
Maybe that's why you keep misunderstanding me. Spiritual things cannot be discerned from point of the natural man. There was something undoubtedly evil in that statue I've encountered, and Christians usually do feel things like these - not even always, but as God gives. Sometimes even we cant explain it... but spiritual things are there, even though they are not tangible, and such manifestations are often testified about through spiritual living and direct experience of a Christian. Do not discard something just because it is not yet clear to you. Spiritual is real and many live it daily. I am praying that you, and us all, will increase in understanding. God bless.
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Nah... Witty remark, though, I have to say.
I've just checked your profile and it also says about you "spiritual status: unsure".
Maybe that's why you keep misunderstanding me. Spiritual things cannot be discerned from point of the natural man. There was something undoubtedly evil in that statue I've encountered, and Christians usually do feel things like these - not even always, but as God gives. Sometimes even we cant explain it... but spiritual things are there, even though they are not tangible, and such manifestations are often testified about through spiritual living and direct experience of a Christian. Do not discard something just because it is not yet clear to you. Spiritual is real and many live it daily. I am praying that you, and us all, will increase in understanding. God bless.
Witty remark, though, I have to say.I've just checked your profile and it also says about you "spiritual status: unsure".
Maybe that's why you keep misunderstanding me. Spiritual things cannot be discerned from point of the natural man. There was something undoubtedly evil in that statue I've encountered, and Christians usually do feel things like these - not even always, but as God gives. Sometimes even we cant explain it... but spiritual things are there, even though they are not tangible, and such manifestations are often testified about through spiritual living and direct experience of a Christian. Do not discard something just because it is not yet clear to you. Spiritual is real and many live it daily. I am praying that you, and us all, will increase in understanding. God bless.
I test all manifestations with the Word of God and judging by the fruit as Jesus said. Manifestations of the Spirit are not "feelings", although they might produce feelings secondarily, they are not fleshly based. But the scope of this conversation is too off from the main subject so I would prefer not to discuss it here, else the thread gets ruined. Thank you for understanding.
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Idol worship is still very much present in the world today.
Look at Mecca in Saudi Arabia as millions of Muslims bow down to a stone that fell from space. Plus going all the way back to the Tower of Babel days we can see through history these symbols I will give associated with the false satanic system.
Look around and see who still goes by this symbolism that can be traced back through history all the way back to Babel.....
Look at Mecca in Saudi Arabia as millions of Muslims bow down to a stone that fell from space. Plus going all the way back to the Tower of Babel days we can see through history these symbols I will give associated with the false satanic system.
Look around and see who still goes by this symbolism that can be traced back through history all the way back to Babel.....
K
Yes and no !!!
The cross is not idol worship if looked upon in its proper manner, and that is what Christ did on the cross for us.
However I do think by the way I have heard some talk they put to much focus on the cross itself and not on what Jesus did on that cross. Without the Lords crucifixion for our sins, that cross would have been just another piece of wood. And when some put to much emphasis on the cross itself and not what the Lord did on it, then yes it can become an idol....
Nah... Witty remark, though, I have to say.
I've just checked your profile and it also says about you "spiritual status: unsure".
Maybe that's why you keep misunderstanding me. Spiritual things cannot be discerned from point of the natural man. There was something undoubtedly evil in that statue I've encountered, and Christians usually do feel things like these - not even always, but as God gives. Sometimes even we cant explain it... but spiritual things are there, even though they are not tangible, and such manifestations are often testified about through spiritual living and direct experience of a Christian. Do not discard something just because it is not yet clear to you. Spiritual is real and many live it daily. I am praying that you, and us all, will increase in understanding. God bless.
Witty remark, though, I have to say.I've just checked your profile and it also says about you "spiritual status: unsure".
Maybe that's why you keep misunderstanding me. Spiritual things cannot be discerned from point of the natural man. There was something undoubtedly evil in that statue I've encountered, and Christians usually do feel things like these - not even always, but as God gives. Sometimes even we cant explain it... but spiritual things are there, even though they are not tangible, and such manifestations are often testified about through spiritual living and direct experience of a Christian. Do not discard something just because it is not yet clear to you. Spiritual is real and many live it daily. I am praying that you, and us all, will increase in understanding. God bless.
