Anti-vaxxers score legislative victory

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blue_ladybug

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the government runs all the pharmaceutical companies. It's all about the Benjamins, baby. All about the $$$$$. The gov't has a patent on the cure for the HIV/AIDS virus. Patent # 5676977.
 

Desdichado

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Great can we throw all the anti-vaxxers in a quarantine zone so you can only infect each other and let us sane people stay safe in the real world?
If I were a Darwinian I would say natural selection would take care of it before quarantine zones would be made.

It's sad though. My parents are anti-vaccine because they have had bad experiences. The anti-vaccine people also have valid points, but every movement has its points.

At the end of the day, we live in an era in which, for certain countries, natural child mortality is nearly non-existent. We owe that to vaccines and other improvements.
 

Nautilus

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We should be more like Serbia who just made vaccines for children mandatory. That is actually a smart and rational decision.
 

Desdichado

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We should be more like Serbia who just made vaccines for children mandatory. That is actually a smart and rational decision.
Wouldn't go that far. All you need is for big pharma to tell the FDA and Congress we must administer an innovative vaccine for a generation to take a serious hit.

That and the precedent of telling what parents should and should not do with their children is a rather dangerous one when you consider possible penalties for those who refuse and their ramifications.
 
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We should be more like Serbia who just made vaccines for children mandatory. That is actually a smart and rational decision.
I think we should make the Christian faith mandatory, how do you think that would go over? After all the wage of sin is death....but oh that's right the carnally minded only see death and disease by outward appearances. :)
 
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DesiredHaven

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I think we should make the Christian faith mandatory, how do you think that would go over? After all the wage of sin is death....but oh that's right the carnally minded only see death and disease by outward appearances. :)

You up? lol
 
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demonicly controlled people love bigpharma. it is written in SCRIPTURE that phrmk will deceive the whole world(and they already have) (like the heresy, and along with it)

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skipp

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Just wait until polio makes a come back in the U.S.
 
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Nautilus

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Wouldn't go that far. All you need is for big pharma to tell the FDA and Congress we must administer an innovative vaccine for a generation to take a serious hit.

That and the precedent of telling what parents should and should not do with their children is a rather dangerous one when you consider possible penalties for those who refuse and their ramifications.
THe penalty would be that you lose your children to the foster care system and hopefully they are given to someone with a bit more concern for their general well-being. Not vaccinating your kid shows not only a lack of concern for their health and wellbeing but for the wellbeing of those around them as well. Its not like vaccines are some big evil conspiracy as some of the less educated would have have you believe( I mean we are talking about a movement spear-headed by Jenny McCarthy of Singled Out fame...) also it's not some evil anti christian deception with demonically controlled people(get a life Jeff) because thats just stupid.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Anti-Vaxxers Score a Legislative Victory in California

Power to the people for standing up against the agenda of big Pharma!
Great, so now there's nothing to stop more Disneyland-type epidemics from spreading across the country unabated, because a few parents and a quack doctor or two are too stupid to see the truth about vaccines -- the one they reject in favor of a lie they like better.

the government runs all the pharmaceutical companies. It's all about the Benjamins, baby. All about the $$$$$.
It's about eradicating childhood illnesses, baby! And nothing else! And this?

The gov't has a patent on the cure for the HIV/AIDS virus. Patent # 5676977.
Large pile of cold dung. I'd say "warm dung" but its been years since that story was taken seriously.
Debunked: "AIDS Cure Patent" (US Patent #5676977)" You're better than wild-hair conspiracy theories, Blue.

This is the dumbest movement in History.
Well, they like tin-foil hats. What do you expect?

demonicly controlled people love bigpharma.
[/quote]And stupid people buy into b***s*** that has no remote connection with the truth!

If I were a Darwinian I would say natural selection would take care of it before quarantine zones would be made.
It would be the only time I could even remotely wish Darwin was right.
 
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Fenner

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The diseases that are making a comeback aren't big pharmaceutical, they're a reality. I'm glad my parents vaccinated me and I do the same for mine.
 
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no worries. check out the TRUE history of polio in the usa.

you'll find that NO ONE had trouble (called "sequilae", like the paralysis, etc) , yes,

NO ONE had trouble from or with polio IF they took
the known and proven nutrient(s) that prevented
free-radical damage in the body.

you don't already know because of the LIARS in charge of yours and everybody's education.

it is quite possible that your education is so low, so ineffective, that you don't even know how to

find out the truth. it is STILL YAHWEH'S PROMISE IN HIS WORD that you will find the TRUTH if

you seek it honestly. HIS WORD is guarded by HIM more than even HIS OWN NAME, so you can be

confident of finding the TRUTH if you seek for it trusting HIM to do as HE SAYS.

that's why catholics are so adamant defending the LIARS. instead of TRUSTING GOD for TRUTH, they

have put their trust in man/mankind/society; thus with all who trust in the flesh, everyone catholic or not,

they are cursed by GOD because HE PROMISED to curse everyone who keeps trusting in the flesh instead of trusting in HIM.

Just wait until polio makes a come back in the U.S.
 

Grandpa

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Great can we throw all the anti-vaxxers in a quarantine zone so you can only infect each other and let us sane people stay safe in the real world?
If you've had a vaccine what are you worried about?
 

MarcR

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Until fifty or sixty years ago, the premise that (at least in this country) government functioned in the public interest was reasonably sound. That premise has become much more debatable since then. If the majority of people are vaccinated; then, at least in theory, only those who refuse vaccination should be at risk. If a person chooses to refuse a vaccine they do not pose a risk to someone who is vaccinated.
 

Fenner

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You can still catch something even if you're vaccinated. The more that don't vaccinate the worse it is. I'm not going to tell anyone else what to do with themselves or their children but use common sense.
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Until fifty or sixty years ago, the premise that (at least in this country) government functioned in the public interest was reasonably sound. That premise has become much more debatable since then. If the majority of people are vaccinated; then, at least in theory, only those who refuse vaccination should be at risk. If a person chooses to refuse a vaccine they do not pose a risk to someone who is vaccinated.
But they pose a huge risk to other unvaccinated children in their schools, play groups, and sports teams. If there were only one unvaccinated child, you would be correct. But idiot parents are foregoing vaccinations for their children by the hundreds of thousands, perhaps by the millions.

It is time the people on this thread who should be shopping for tin foil hats got some common sense -- not speaking to you, Marc, because you at least reason through the issue. I would tweak your conclusions if I could, but you show signs of buying into the deliberate deceptions of misguided alternative medical gurus. But there are two or three on here who haven't a freakin' clue and do buy into that nonsense.

National Center for Biotechnical Information, National Institutes of Health Study: Parental Delay or Refusal of Vaccine Doses, Childhood Vaccination Coverage at 24 Months of Age, and the Health Belief Model

Parents who refuse or delay vaccines not only leave their children susceptible to VPDs, but also make their communities vulnerable to outbreaks of VPDs [i.e., Vaccine-Preventable Diseases] ... at least 40% of all parents did not report that their decision to vaccinate was influenced by a doctor or nurse. In fact, our results show that with respect to the continuum in the Health Belief Model, increasing vaccine hesitancy is also associated with an increasing percentage of parents who seek advice and information from a practitioner of complementary alternative medicine who may not fully accept childhood vaccines ... Of greater importance is our finding that children are at risk of having lower vaccination coverage if their parents have a poor working relationship with their child's vaccination provider or mistrust the medical profession in general.
Refusing to get children vaccinated may not be "child abuse," but it is no less unconscionable, not just for the parents' children but for all the children in the family's psychosocial environment who also have not been vaccinated due to ignorance and mythology. The hesitancy/refusal of vaccines is based on quackery, not solid science.

The garbage that gets passed off as "fact" to unthinking parents has been roundly debunked by actual research, not the pseudoscience that brought on this "vaccine fear" 20 years ago. It's time to come out of the dark ages and get real.
 
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