Long way to go, but new Fox News poll shows Ben Carson tied with Jeb Bush for #1

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Jeb Bush, Ben Carson tied atop crowded Republican field, Fox poll shows

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson sit atop a crowded 2016 GOP field at 13 percent apiece in a new Fox News poll, with both men gaining on other contenders compared to last month.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker was next at 11 percent, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was at 10 percent, and Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida was at 9 percent.
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As the thread header says, "long way to go." The poll doesn't, in the scheme of things, mean much. But the fact Carson leaped seven points after his announcement, into a tie with Bush, is impressive if nothing else.

Still, Bush is the only one with a lead over Clinton head to head. Current opinions hold Bush as a six-point favorite. Carson and Walker trail her by six percent, Cruz trails by five points, Rubio by four, and Mike Huckabee trails her by only three points.

Interestingly, Rand Paul only got seven percent of the poll choice, and would get buried by Clinton by 12 points.
 
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You know I watched Ben's interview the other day...I would vote for him....IF we make it that far and if the king doesn't have a false flag event so as to declare martial law......!
 
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Would americans seriously elect a third Bush? Why?
 
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yeah but you would figure three failed bush terms would have opened some eyes. Otherwise its just a waiting game for Jeb to send more US troops to pointlessly die in the middle east.
 
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Nautilus said:
yeah but you would figure three failed bush terms would have opened some eyes. Otherwise its just a waiting game for Jeb to send more US troops to pointlessly die in the middle east.
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Or wait till ISIS nukes N.Y. because the current administrating is pandering and failing to acknowledge the truth of what ISIS wants to do..........
 
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yeah but you would figure three failed bush terms would have opened some eyes. Otherwise its just a waiting game for Jeb to send more US troops to pointlessly die in the middle east.
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Just because Democrats and center-leftists didn't like the way GHWB and GWB did things doesn't mean their terms were failures. They weren't, actually, though Bush 41 did underestimate the strength of the economy, and Bush 43 didn't act fast enough to stave off the housing collapse brought on by Barney Frank's stupidity in thinking unqualified borrowers should be allowed to borrow anyway.

All in all, we were much safer from terrorism under George W. Bush than we are now, by a long shot. Had McCain been elected, the southern border would be sealed as Bush 43 said it should be.
 
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I'm just as scared about terrorism as I was before 9/11... It's not as massive and next door as republicans try to lead the public to agree.
 
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I'm just as scared about terrorism as I was before 9/11... It's not as massive and next door as republicans try to lead the public to agree.
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I'm afraid you can't know that for absolute certainty, Naut. The lack of statistical likelihood you personally will be killed by a terror attack is based on previous occurrences, which are minimal, almost statistically non-existent to this point. But the fact about 3,500 Americans have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11 is not a point that is easily dismissed, even if there are 319 million of us.

The floodgates of the southern border have been open for 30 years to not just illegal immigrants who are simply looking for a better life and an American address, but also to an unknown number of terrorists who have slipped through into the country, not to mention the number who came in ostensibly as legal visitors who failed to report as required and "disappeared," like Muhammad Atta and the other eighteen 0/11 hijackers

You can't say, "It's not as massive and next door as republicans try to lead the public to agree," because we just don't know those numbers. More than likely, they are less than a thousand.

But the recruitment efforts of ISIS through social media, online video games, direct personal enlistment, etc., makes it impossible to know exactly how many have been "turned" among our own young people -- including foreign-born Muslims especially. The numbers could be much, much higher, and could be growing by the day. It depends on how long ISIS' strategy was in the works before they made themselves known, and how well it continues to work.
 
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We still have a lot of election to go, folks.
 
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