Obama: Churches Should Focus More on Poverty Instead of Abortion and Gay Marriage

[mailmandan]

OBAMA: CHURCHES SHOULD FOCUS MORE ON POVERTY INSTEAD OF ABORTION AND GAY MARRIAGE

by CHARLIE SPIERING 12 May 2015

President Obama suggested that people of faith should focus more on helping the poor, instead of focusing on divisive issues such as gay marriage and abortion.

During a panel discussion on poverty at Georgetown University, Obama specifically referred to his own Christian faith, pointing out that he recognized the importance speaking out about the issue as president.

“I think it would be powerful for our faith-based organizations to speak out on this in a more forceful fashion,” he said, admitting that his wish might sound “self-interested” because he had disagreements with Christian and Catholic organizations about gay marriage and abortion.

“There is great caring and great concern, but when it comes to what are you really going to the mat for, what’s the defining issue … this is often times viewed as a ‘nice to have’ relative to an issue like abortion,” Obama said.
He argued that churches should spend more time pursuing “powerful” ideas such as helping those in poverty in order to attract more followers.

“Nobody has shown that better than Pope Francis, who I think has been transformative just through the sincerity and insistence that this is vital to who we are, this is vital to following what Jesus Christ our Savior talked about.”
Obama added that he hoped that the American people received that message when Pope Francis visits the United States in September.

“I can’t wait to host him because I think it will help to spark an even broader conversation of the sort we are having today,” Obama concluded.

 

[3Scoreand10]

It will be interseting to see how many religious leaders and so called churches agree with him and how many will call him out and say NO, we will still agree with the WORD that abortion and homosexuallity a SIN.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Barack Hussein Obama is deceived by the devil and, as a result, speaks for the devil instead of God.

Seven Reasons Barack Obama is not a Christian

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

We will not let Obama deprive us of our human rights which include a free moral conscience that aligns with God's holiness (e.g. God's normative morality) nor our Constitutionally protected Christian liberties which we may engage in the "free exercise of."

The deceived "worker of iniquity" presently sitting in our nation's Oval Office wants to fascistically restrict Christians from participating in the political arena. Let that sink in...

"Christianity is not a series of truths in the plural, but rather truth spelled with a capital 'T'. Truth about total reality, not just about religious things. Biblical Christianity is Truth concerning total reality - and the intellectual holding of that total Truth and then living in the light of that Truth." -Francis Schaeffer (Address at the University of Notre Dame on April 1981).

Christians are called to redeem entire cultures, not just individuals in food pantry handouts because a deceived immoral politician wants them out of the way to accomplish antichrist political objectives.

Certainly ordinary Christians fulfilling God's calling to reform culture within their local spheres of influence (e.g. families, churches, schools, neighborhoods, workplaces, professional organizations, and civic institutions) are both necessary and desirable; however, as Charles Spurgeon once said, "The gospel is like a caged lion... it just needs to be let out of its cage."

And that means the political arena also.

 

[Dayo]

America cannot blame President Obama for abortion because many presidents did nothing also. Where was church VOICE during the time of Roe vs Wade and when prayer was taking out of schools. Why did Christians allow this to happen. Were Christians marching in the streets during the abortion law and taking prayer out of schools? Abortion is a tactic to use for decreasing population, especially the poor and minorities. If folks feel strongly about this issue begin marching in the streets to the White House! Battlefield needs SOLDIERS from the Kingdom of GOD!


Abortion Clinics are in poor areas which is mostly African American population. Abortion clinics were used and supported by rich folks who desired to decrease the population of inferior undesirables.

1. Texas law making it a crime to assist a woman to get an abortion violated her due process rights. U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas affirmed in part, reversed in part. Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion.
   
   
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[Dayo]

I wish folks will just be HONEST why they despise Preside Obama! I am thankful that this is his last year so the WHITE HOUSE can return to normal. Then what will folks say about Hilary Clinton or next president. Many poor Americans received health benefit so when President Obama leaves office those benefits will be REVOKE! Folks complained about President Obama and disrespecting him that GOD is going to teach folks a lesson!

 

[Dayo]

Please read the Census below:

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0101.pdf

[h=3]Abortions—Number and Rate by Race - Census.gov[/h]www.census.gov/compendia/.../12s0101.pdf

United States Census Bureau


Births, Deaths, Marriages, and Divorces 75 ... Race-Ethnicity: 1999 to 2006 ... Based on data from National Health and Nutrition Examination Surveys (NHANES)]. Race ....Source: R.K. Jones and K. Kooistra, “Abortion Incidence and Access to ...

I hope this will inspire Christians to begin marching for lives of babies!!

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I CAN TYPE IN BIG LETTERS TOO DAYO BUT DOING SO DOES NOT ADD AN IOTA MORE OF LEGITIMACY TO WHAT I, YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE WRITES.

AND I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU SCREED ALL OVER THIS FORUM BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO THROUGH EACH ASSERTION YOU MAKE REFUTING THE FALSE ONES IN ORDER TO NORMALIZE A THREAD AND AFTERWARDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ALWAYS TOO EGOTISTICAL TO ADMIT WHERE YOU WERE WRONG.

 

[Dayo]

I CAN TYPE IN BIG LETTERS TOO DAYO BUT DOING SO DOES NOT ADD AN IOTA MORE OF LEGITIMACY TO WHAT I, YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE WRITES.

AND I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU SCREED ALL OVER THIS FORUM BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO THROUGH EACH ASSERTION YOU MAKE REFUTING THE FALSE ONES IN ORDER TO NORMALIZE A THREAD AND AFTERWARDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ALWAYS TOO EGOTISTICAL TO ADMIT WHERE YOU WERE WRONG.

Maybe I did not have my glasses on because I do type in 3 or 4 number. Interesting! Did you read the Census about aborted babies and articles? I only typed few words in capital letters. Please read the census report! Thank you! I am interest in your response to the report.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Obama is pro-abortion and uses his political office fully to continue abortion rather than oppose it. Hence, Obama is guilty to the degree that he actually is and America can blame Obama for his part in it. In fact, he's the most pro-abortion president to ever sit in the oval office. Read: Obama: The Most Pro-Abortion President Ever | SBA-List

Obama attempted to deny religious people their human right to a free moral conscience and their religious liberty by forcing them to support abortion in their organizations and institutions, an act that was only halted by the Supreme Court.

But this year, he's tried to use the UN to force Christian humanitarian organizations to support abortion or lose funding: Obama admin tries to force Christian organizations to participate in abortions | Live Action News

Obama's political guilt, with respect to abortion, is well documented over his entire career in politics and include his tenure in the Senate and the oval office. You're wrong.

And to answer your question (despite you forgetting to add a question mark to the end of the sentence), U.S. Christians were divided on the issue of abortion with religious leaders in liberal Christian denominations became supporters of abortion rights while Evangelical and other conservative Protestants found themselves allied with the Catholic Church which remained staunchly anti-abortion.

The latter, which includes myself, mounted substantial political resistance against abortion which included protests against abortion clinics that continue to this day... a fact that you appear to be completely ignorant of. Yes, Christians marched in the streets against abortion and removing prayer from public schools.

You did something, at least, correct. The CDC's 'Abortion Surveillance Report' for 2011 states:

"Non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of abortions (37.2% and 36.2%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (19.7% and 7.0%, respectively). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rate (8.0 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (132 abortions per 1,000 live births), and non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rate (29.7 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (459 abortions per 1,000 live births)."

You are correct that black women obtained the greatest rate of abortions, per capita.

America cannot blame President Obama for abortion because many presidents did nothing also. Where was church VOICE during the time of Roe vs Wade and when prayer was taking out of schools. Why did Christians allow this to happen. Were Christians marching in the streets during the abortion law and taking prayer out of schools? Abortion is a tactic to use for decreasing population, especially the poor and minorities... Abortion Clinics are in poor areas which is mostly African American population.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

The answer is simple. Because most of his policies are antichrist, antichristian, and immoral which makes them despicable.

You rant about the benefit of Obamacare to the poor while ignorantly ignoring the fact he tried to use it to deprive Christians of their human right to a free moral conscience and religious liberty when he tried to force abortion upon their organizations and institutions with it. Ironically, you simultaneously rant against abortion. It makes no sense.

And Obamacare adds a $100 billion a year in expenditures to the annual deficit which could have been had for only $10 billion a year if he had supported the plan economists devised to solve the problem of rising healthcare costs for all Americans See: The Purple Health Plan | The Purple Health Plan.

He did not. Just because you're ignorant on the topic of Obama doesn't mean everyone else is. America's being taught a lesson already and it's going to get worse and Obama's part of that "lesson" not some kind of a reprieve from it. You've got your wires crossed up.

I wish folks will just be HONEST why they despise Preside Obama! I am thankful that this is his last year so the WHITE HOUSE can return to normal. Then what will folks say about Hilary Clinton or next president. Many poor Americans received health benefit so when President Obama leaves office those benefits will be REVOKE! Folks complained about President Obama and disrespecting him that GOD is going to teach folks a lesson!

 

[crossnote]

Read the title, the Left is all about economics and race but couldn't care about individual Life, individual Liberty and the individual Pursuit of Happiness. The State is the Almighty in their eyes.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Indeed, they are the fruit of a Soviet operation to implant cultural Marxism into the West and it worked beyond their wildest imagination even as their own empire crumbled.

[video]https://youtu.be/gIdBuK7_g3M[/video]

Read the title, the Left is all about economics and race but couldn't care about individual Life, individual Liberty and the individual Pursuit of Happiness. The State is the Almighty in their eyes.

 

[Dayo]

It is not about being correct because that is not the case. Many Christians complain about issues, but many are not on the battlefield standing against this injustice of life. Many Christians are afraid of persecution, suffering, standing along against the masses and standing against the injustice of the government. Jesus Christ was an example of those who go against the government, and religious leaders of men not of GOD. Freedom+Truth=Death. Think about all past leaders who stood against injustices of the world, give truth to the masses, and freedom. Those leaders were killed, isolated, betrayed, plotted, scheme against or reported crazy. The same folks they tried to set free with truth turned against them. So are Christians prepare to suffer for Kingdom of GOD?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Ronald_Reagan_Abortion.htm

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[h=3]2001: Nancy pushed Bush on stem cell research for Alzheimers[/h]In April of 2001, a piece of writing turned up in the Oval Office. Describing what she called a "wrenching family journey," the author urged me to support the "miracle possibilities" of embryonic stem cell research to provide cures for people like her husband, who was suffering from Alzheimer's. She closed, "Mr. President, I have some personal experience regarding the many decisions you face each day. I'd be very grateful if you would take my thoughts and prayers into your consideration on this critical issue. Most sincerely, Nancy Reagan."Many felt the federal government had a responsibility to fund medical research that might help save the lives of people like President Reagan. Others argued that supporting the destruction of human embryos could take us off a moral cliff toward an uncaring society that devalued life. The contrast was stark, and I faced a difficult decision.
Source: Decision Points, by Pres. George W. Bush, p.106-107 , Nov 9, 2010[h=3]Instituted global gag order on family planning[/h]In Kazakhstan, I visited a small women's-wellness center funded through US foreign aid. Because of the unavailability of contraception, abortion had become a common form of family planning under communism. The Clinton Administration's policy was to make abortion "safe, legal and rare." We worked to discourage abortion and minimize the spread of sexually transmitted diseases by providing aid for family planning and improved maternal health. This policy contradicted the global gag rule that had been imposed by President Reagan, continued by Bush and rescinded by Bill on the second day of his Presidency (later reinstated by George W. Bush). The doctors at the Almaty clinic told me that the rates of both abortion and maternal deaths were decreasing, further proof that our practical policy was more effective at making abortion rare than the Republicans' more visceral anticontraception approach.Source: Living History, by Hillary Rodham Clinton, p.431 , Nov 1, 2003[h=3]Opposed abortion, on fundamentalist grounds[/h]One focus of the Reagan administration from the beginning was an agenda of social issues ranging from opposition to abortion to support for mandatory prayer in the public schools. Much of the social agenda of the conservative fundamentalist supporters of the president was adopted by the executive branch, but Reagan had little success in gaining its acceptance by Congress.Source: Grolier Encyclopedia on-line, “The Presidency” , Dec 25, 2000[h=3]Appointed Justices with intent making Court less political[/h]Changing the Court through appointments is a failed tactic. Republican presidents have appointed Justice after Justice with the avowed intention of changing the Court's direction. That has not worked. Most of those appointed turn out not to be restrained or start that way but then, having no firm judicial philosophy, migrate to the left. Presidents Reagan and Bush, who quite deliberately tried to bring the Court back to a judicial rather than a political role, had five appointments, three of whom voted to retrain Roe v. Wade. Now that Bill Clinton has made two appointments, the Court is certain to be activist on the cultural left well into the next century.Any more serious efforts to limit the power of the courts will run in to the familiar refrain that this would threaten our liberties. To the contrary, it is now clear that it is the courts that threaten our liberty--the liberty to govern ourselves--more profoundly than does any legislation.
Source: Slouching Towards Gomorrah, by Robert Bork, p.114-115 , May 31, 1996[h=3]Allowed abortion as CA Gov.; didn’t push pro-life as Pres.[/h]Reagan was not as obsessive about anti-abortion legislation as he often seemed. Early in his California governorship he had signed a permissive abortion bill that has resulted in more than a million abortions. Afterward, he inaccurately blamed this outcome on doctors, saying that they had deliberately misinterpreted the law. When Reagan ran for president, he won backing from pro-life forces by advocating a constitutional amendment that would have prohibited all abortions except when necessary to save the life of the mother. Reagan’s stand was partly a product of political calculation, as was his tactic after he was elected of addressing the annual pro-life rally held in Washington by telephone so that he would not be seen with the leaders of the movement on the evening news. While I do not doubt Reagan’s sincerity in advocating an anti-abortion amendment, he invested few political resources toward obtaining this goal.
[h=3]An unborn child is a living human being[/h]I call America--a good nation, a moral people--to charitable but realistic consideration of the terrible cost of abortion on demand. To those who say this violates a woman's right to control of her own body: Can they deny that now medical evidence confirms the unborn child is a living human being entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Let us unite as a nation and protect the unborn with legislation that would stop all Federal funding for abortion and with a human life amendment making, of course, an exception where the unborn child threatens the life of the mother. Our Judeo-Christian tradition recognizes the right of taking a life in self-defense. But with that one exception, let us look to those others in our land who cry out for children to adopt. I pledge to you tonight I will work to remove barriers to adoption and extend full sharing in family life to millions of Americans so that children who need homes can be welcomed to families who want them and love them.Source: Pres. Reagan's 1988 State of the Union message to Congress , Jan 25, 1988[h=3]15 million unborn children: ten times than all US wars[/h]The tenth anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in Roe v Wade" is a good time for us to pause and reflect. Our nationwide policy of abortion-on-demand through all nine months of pregnancy was neither voted for by our people nor enacted by our legislators--not a single state had such unrestricted abortion before the Supreme Court decreed it to be national policy in 1973. But the consequences of this judicial decision are now obvious: since 1973, more than 15 million unborn children have had their lives snuffed out by legalized abortions. That is over ten times the number of Americans lost in all out nation's wars.Source: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation, p. 15 , Jan 1, 1984[h=3]Dred Scott took more than a decade to overturn[/h]Despite the formidable obstacles before us, we must not lose heart. This is not the first time our country has been divided by a Supreme Court decision that denied the value of certain human lives. The "Dred Scott" decision of 1857 was not overturned in a day, or a year, or even a decade. At first, only a minority of Americans recognized and deplored the moral crisis brought about by denying the full humanity of our black brothers and sisters; but that minority persisted in their vision and finally prevailed. They did it by appealing to the hearts and minds of their countrymen, to the truth of human dignity under God. From their example, we know that respect for the sacred value of human life is too deeply engrained in the hearts of our people to remain suppressed.Source: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation, p. 15 , Jan 1, 1984[h=3]Decision affects two lives: mother and unborn child[/h]I have often said that when we talk about abortion, we are talking about two lives--the lives of the mother and the life of the unborn child. Why else do we call a pregnant woman a mother?Medical practice confirms at every step the correctness of thes moral sensibilities. Modern medicine treats the unborn child as a patient. Medical pioneers have made great breakthroughs in treating the unborn--for genetic problems, vitamin deficiencies irregular heart rhythms, and other medical conditions.
The real question today is not when human life begins, but What is the value of human life? The abortionists who reassembles the arms and legs of a tiny baby to make sure all its parts have been torn from its mother's body can hardly doubt whether it is a human being. The real question for him and for all of us is whether than tiny human life has a God-given right to be protected by the law--the same right we have.
Source: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation, p. 15 , Jan 1, 1984[h=3]Abortion on demand must be outlawed[/h]Abortion on demand now takes the lives of up to one and a half million unborn children a year. Human life legislation ending this tragedy will someday pass the Congress, and you and I must never rest until it does.Source: Speech in Orlando Florida , Mar 8, 1983[h=3]Abortion on demand does emotional harm[/h]Reagan said, “Now I don’t have to tell you that this puts us in opposition to, or at least out of step with, a prevailing attitude of many who have turned to a modern-day secularism.”The most disturbing evidence of this attitude was Washington’s funding of clinics that provided “birth control drugs and devices to underage girls without the knowledge of their parents.” Sex was being secularized. “Are we to believe that something so sacred can be looked upon as a purely physical thing with no potential for emotional and psychological harm?“ Apparently, yes, for that cynicism extended to the womb:
”Abortion on demand“ now takes the lives of up to one and a half million unborn children a year. Human life legislation ending this tragedy will someday pass the Congress, and you and I must never rest until it does. Unless and until it can be proven that the unborn child is not a living entity, then its right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness must be protected.
Source: Dutch, by Edmund Morris, p.472-473 , Mar 8, 1983[h=3]As CA governor, reluctantly signed Therapeutic Abortion bill[/h]In May 1967, the Therapeutic Abortion Bill began to take shape. It was a measure to allow pregnant women to terminate embryos prejudicial to their “physical or mental health.” Reagan had to admit that he agreed with “the moral principle of self-defense.” If 100,000 California women were desperate enough to undergo illegal abortions every year, he could at least make it safer for some of them.He signed it into law. Only as abortion became an extension of welfare, would he wish he had paid more head to the bill’s manipulative language. The very word “Therapeutic” was a medical euphemism, sanitizing essentially bloody procedures. It defined “mental health” as at-risk if a pregnant teen went out and smashed windows. In common with the more liberal laws it was to spawn at state and federal levels, the Act ignored the feelings of fathers.
Reagan was left with a sense of guilt. “If there is a question as to whether there is life or death, the doubt should be resolved in favor of life.”

 

[jamie26301]

I CAN TYPE IN BIG LETTERS TOO DAYO BUT DOING SO DOES NOT ADD AN IOTA MORE OF LEGITIMACY TO WHAT I, YOU, OR ANYONE ELSE WRITES.

AND I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU SCREED ALL OVER THIS FORUM BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO THROUGH EACH ASSERTION YOU MAKE REFUTING THE FALSE ONES IN ORDER TO NORMALIZE A THREAD AND AFTERWARDS PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ALWAYS TOO EGOTISTICAL TO ADMIT WHERE YOU WERE WRONG.

This is not just big letters... this is all caps which was not the nature of her post.

And I don't demand any particular font or font size, because I can zoom in my browser, but I do appreciate when people use font like hers, that is easier to read. I know I don't, but I appreciate when others do.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

So now you don't even acknowledge that God's truth (e.g. being correct) has anything to do with the solution. Oh Lordy, we got us a screeder!

Posting a million more words IN BIG LETTERS prefaced with a false assertion will not solve the problem. Take your own advice and get into the streets. Au Revoir.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Testing can you read this? Jamie can you read this? I will write like this from now on because it's easier to read (according to you) and it won't matter because you can zoom your browser. OK? Obama has dedicated himself to promoting abortion—rather than reduce them as he promised. The president has done this by, just to name a few, expanding abortions through Obamacare, appointing a bevy of pro-abortion judges and officials, moving to strip medical professionals of conscience rights, and forcing taxpayers to fund groups who provide abortions in other countries. In his statement on the occasion of the 38[SUP]th[/SUP] anniversary of Roe v. Wade, President Obama did little to even meet the standard of former President Bill Clinton, who often noted that he desired abortions to be rare. Instead, Obama praised the court decision as having liberated women. In that vein, he pledged to “recommit” himself to ensuring that all women would have the opportunity to “fulfill their dreams.”
Sadly, the president spoke nothing of the at least 50 million unborn children who have been needlessly slaughtered since the Supreme Court’s decision in 1973. Without question, their dreams are forever unfulfilled.

This is not just big letters... this is all caps which was not the nature of her post.

And I don't demand any particular font or font size, because I can zoom in my browser, but I do appreciate when people use font like hers, that is easier to read. I know I don't, but I appreciate when others do.

 

[ThomistColin]

Umm...we do march on Washington over Abortion. We have every year since Roe v Wade. Its called the March for Life. Its ignored by the media.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Indeed. Thank you for bringing this up ThomistColin. An estimated 800,000 people attended the 2015 march. March for Life

Umm...we do march on Washington over Abortion. We have every year since Roe v Wade. Its called the March for Life. Its ignored by the media.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Testing can you read this? Jamie can you read this? I will write like this from now on because it's easier to read (according to you) and it won't matter because you can zoom your browser. OK? Obama has dedicated himself to promoting abortion—rather than reduce them as he promised. The president has done this by, just to name a few, expanding abortions through Obamacare, appointing a bevy of pro-abortion judges and officials, moving to strip medical professionals of conscience rights, and forcing taxpayers to fund groups who provide abortions in other countries. In his statement on the occasion of the 38[SUP]th[/SUP] anniversary of Roe v. Wade, President Obama did little to even meet the standard of former President Bill Clinton, who often noted that he desired abortions to be rare. Instead, Obama praised the court decision as having liberated women. In that vein, he pledged to “recommit” himself to ensuring that all women would have the opportunity to “fulfill their dreams.”
Sadly, the president spoke nothing of the at least 50 million unborn children who have been needlessly slaughtered since the Supreme Court’s decision in 1973. Without question, their dreams are forever unfulfilled.

​A-ok, your size font is just obnoxious. It makes my eyes go wonky.. I'm blind but I ain't THAT blind..though your font just might finish off my eyesight..lol..