PoliSci prof at Duke defiant after school rebukes him for 'racially charged' remarks

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Viligant_Warrior

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Duke rebuke: Professor defiant after school condemns racially charged remarks

A Duke University professor was defiant after the school last week condemned his "noxious" and "offensive" words in a letter published in The New York Times in which he compared African-Americans unfavorably to Asian-Americans.

The school's rebuke came after a student backlash against Political Science Professor Jerry Hough, 80, whose May 9 letter sought to address racism and the Baltimore riots. Hough said African-Americans don't try to integrate into society, while Asians “worked doubly hard” to overcome racism instead of blaming it.
Among the way blacks "fail to integrate" according the Hough, is that they all have "a strange new name that symbolizes their lack of desire for integration.” Asian-Americans, he said, have a "simple old American first name" that he claims indicates their desire to blend in.

Duke said Hough's 2015-16 contract will be his last, which apparently doesn't bother Hough much. He says political correctness is getting in the way of frank and honest discourse. He blames our overly-sensitive reactions to just about everything for much of the problems we have in our current society.

So what do you think? I think he might be a Carson voter.
 
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Galahad

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I think Professor Hough ought to go PC and sue Duke for discrimination. Ageism. And Duke needs to be more tolerant toward those who state facts. :cool:
 
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I think Professor Hough ought to go PC and sue Duke for discrimination. Ageism. And Duke needs to be more tolerant toward those who state facts. :cool:
I agree with both you and Vigilant..........
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Simply put:

"Political Correctness is the use of culture as a sharp weapon to enforce new norms and to stigmatize those who dissent from the new dispensation; to stigmatize those who insist on values that will impede the new "PC" regime: free speech and free and objective intellectual inquiry."

Political Correctness / Cultural Marxism - Discover the Networks
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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[video=youtube;EjaBpVzOohs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs[/video]
 
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jahsoul

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Let's see

*Brought over as slaves
*After slavery was abolished, was still treated sub human
*Those who strove for integration were usually met with force
*"Separate, but equal"
*Hangings, dogs, hoses, and bombing

Listen, I understand that a lot of this board are white people and it's pretty evident most here has never had a "walk in my shoes" moment, so let's be honest here. An 80 year old white man can't tell me ANYTHING about failure to integrate. Shoot, tell me about failure to integrate after slavery? Some Jim Crow era? It's still places in Alabama that has a sign that say blacks better be out before the sunset. Tell me about the Asian plight in the United States compared to those of African decent.

But the strange thing is why must I work to integrate myself into a society that I am a part of? I work and pay the same taxes that you do, so why do I have to work hard to seek your approval. Let's be honest,

And before any preconceived thoughts are thrown out there:
*My name is Hebrew
*College educated (Crazy enough, while finishing my cirriculum in Information Technology, I was 4 classes away from graduating with a BS in Political Science)
*I don't riot
*I have no felonies
*I am married and all of my children are from my one wife
*I am not on any type of government assistance
*I didn't wear a hoodie in protest last year
*I don't vote democrat

All kidding aside, point blank, most people on here have no idea what being black in America is like, like I have no idea what being white is like. Difference is, I don't act like I do. I'm not one to wear slavery and racism on my shoulder but ignoring its effects on this country doesn't negate the fact that the rift is there, and the culture that created it is the culture that ignores it.
 

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problem is we dont run around playing the race card everytime something even remotely negative happens.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Annual interest expenditures on the national debt are skyrocketing and will severely curtail the present welfare social services spending and government jobs which black people access within two decades.

Decades of reckless spending/fiscal recklessness and atrocious government trade and labor policies have resulted in the greatest national debt ever incurred in world history the interest of which must be paid annually or the U.S. government defaults crashing the economy with catastrophic consequence.

That's not going to happen. They're going to restructure, increase taxes somewhat, and dramatically cut spending on welfare programs which presently dominate the federal budget (because they have to).

27.4 percent of blacks presently live in poverty and many more are borderline are close to it. Additionally, 20 percent of blacks not in poverty work for the government.

The rug's going to get pulled out from under these people, in what will be an even worse domestic labor market by then, and this time rioting and political agitation will not result in more government money and government jobs like it did in the past.

If you can afford to maintain your status as a black separatist, good for you, then forgo integration. But much of the black demographic in the U.S. will not be in that position. Not by a long shot.

Certainly, the U.S. could reform it's economic, fiscal, immigration, and trade policies to turn the entire situation around but, at present, there's no momentum to do that in Washington DC. It's business as usual in the beltway. The train is steaming to the end of the line and when its gets there, the government money will be gone for your people.


why must I work to integrate myself into a society that I am a part of?
 
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jahsoul

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problem is we dont run around playing the race card everytime something even remotely negative happens.
Actually, majority of black people don't go around playing the race card but don't act naive as there isn't times where that card can be applied. We have 3 types of people in this country, those who always brings up race issues, those who ignore them like they don't exist and the majority in the middle. Sadly, the loudest are the minority on the outside.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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A people who won't be ready for it when it happens.

Instead of forming solid nuclear families, developing vibrant communities economically through the creation of mani-fold small to medium businesses and using their economic power to support them, seeking to curtail non-black immigration instead of supporting it to the nth degree radically increasing the supply of labor in the U.S. in a poor private domestic labor market, learning how to save and build wealth, etc... a very large number of blacks have acted like wilding feral "field negros" just off the plantation filling up the nation's courts, probation/parole, jails/prisons, and welfare social services systems in the process.

Blame white people all you like for this behavior but it won't change the situation for the simple reason that the government money will no longer be there.

Of course, the possibility exists the present conclusion will be avoided by making the appropriate reforms but understand that's not happening now and there's also the possibility that misguided reforms can be implemented which won't change the ending for black people.

This is called straight talk friend. I have no axe to grind with my fellow Americans who are black and I have no dog in the fight against them. My Christian worldview wants them to be moral and successful. If they can do that separately, great. If they can do that integrated, great. However they can accomplish it is fine with me and toward that end, I'm going to tell them the truth as I understand it. Period.
 
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Annual interest expenditures on the national debt are skyrocketing and will severely curtail the present welfare social services spending and government jobs which black people access within two decades.

Decades of reckless spending/fiscal recklessness and atrocious government trade and labor policies have resulted in the greatest national debt ever incurred in world history the interest of which must be paid annually or the U.S. government defaults crashing the economy with catastrophic consequence.

That's not going to happen. They're going to restructure, increase taxes somewhat, and dramatically cut spending on welfare programs which presently dominate the federal budget (because they have to).

27.4 percent of blacks presently live in poverty and many more are borderline are close to it. Additionally, 20 percent of blacks not in poverty work for the government.

The rug's going to get pulled out from under these people, in what will be an even worse domestic labor market by then, and this time rioting and political agitation will not result in more government money and government jobs like it did in the past.

If you can afford to maintain your status as a black separatist, good for you, then forgo integration. But much of the black demographic in the U.S. will not be in that position. Not by a long shot.

Certainly, the U.S. could reform it's economic, fiscal, immigration, and trade policies to turn the entire situation around but, at present, there's no momentum to do that in Washington DC. It's business as usual in the beltway. The train is steaming to the end of the line and when its gets there, the government money will be gone for your people.
I don't see myself as a black separatist and I don't think my post suggested it. In the comment you quoted, I asked the question, why should I integrate myself into a society that I am already a part of? If we all really viewed and treated each other as equals, there wouldn't be any type of "integration" needed.
 
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A people who won't be ready for it when it happens.

Instead of forming solid nuclear families, developing vibrant communities economically through the creation of mani-fold small to medium businesses and using their economic power to support them, seeking to curtail non-black immigration instead of supporting it to the nth degree radically increasing the supply of labor in the U.S. in a poor private domestic labor market, learning how to save and build wealth, etc... a very large number of blacks have acted like wilding feral "field negros" just off the plantation filling up the nation's courts, probation/parole, jails/prisons, and welfare social services systems in the process.

Blame white people all you like for this behavior but it won't change the situation for the simple reason that the government money will no longer be there.

Of course, the possibility exists the present conclusion will be avoided by making the appropriate reforms but understand that's not happening now and there's also the possibility that misguided reforms can be implemented which won't change the ending for black people.

This is called straight talk friend. I have no axe to grind with my fellow Americans who are black and I have no dog in the fight against them. My Christian worldview wants them to be moral and successful. If they can do that separately, great. If they can do that integrated, great. However they can accomplish it is fine with me and toward that end, I'm going to tell them the truth as I understand it. Period.
The crazy thing about life is truth as you understand it doesn't equal fact.

You know what's crazy about this particular post; you described the black community when we accepted that the desire to integrate wasn't mutual. Look at the black community pre and post integration; you might be surprised. Who is to blame? It's so complex that blame can't rest solely on anyone but yet on everyone.

I whole heartedly agree that miguided reform won't change anything; truth is, it never has
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I read it as a possibility but OK. You've stated the opposite so now there's no ambiguity on that point.

But in response to your assertion here that "if we viewed and treated each other as equals, there wouldn't be any type of 'integration' needed," I will assert that there are criteria aside from viewing each other as "equal" (in the sense of having the same value as the biblical doctrine of Imago Dei teaches). It's because of that criteria that I find your statement naive.


I don't see myself as a black separatist and I don't think my post suggested it. In the comment you quoted, I asked the question, why should I integrate myself into a society that I am already a part of? If we all really viewed and treated each other as equals, there wouldn't be any type of "integration" needed.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Says you. I can support my assertions empirically.

And I'm describing the behavior of a material portion of the black community that exists presently. Obviously, that doesn't include everyone and thank God for that.

And the statistics preceding the modern "progressive" welfare state with respect to black family and community were strong. Both are now a shadow of what they once were.

But I agree with you that there's enough blame to go around and that it is a complex issue (though not complex to me anymore due to the decades spent studying it both academically and non-academically).


The crazy thing about life is truth as you understand it doesn't equal fact.

You know what's crazy about this particular post; you described the black community when we accepted that the desire to integrate wasn't mutual. Look at the black community pre and post integration; you might be surprised. Who is to blame? It's so complex that blame can't rest solely on anyone but yet on everyone.

I whole heartedly agree that miguided reform won't change anything; truth is, it never has
 
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HMMMM! I have noticed someone pattern which I find very interesting! I am curious what is the person agenda, but I continue to observed the pattern. I truly enjoy a challenge.



 
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Viligant_Warrior

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Let's see

*Brought over as slaves
*After slavery was abolished, was still treated sub human
*Those who strove for integration were usually met with force
*"Separate, but equal"
*Hangings, dogs, hoses, and bombing
All of which came to an end in 1965 under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- the discrepancy in years being a direct result of Southern Democrats filibustering to prevent passage of the bill.

It continues to bewilder me that, in order to justify special treatment for blacks, it is these nearly-ancient-history events that are trotted out as though to say "See? See how they are mistreated?"

None of us owned slaves. None of us treated them as subhumans. None of us participated in a lynching. None of us drowned civil rights workers in Mississippi.

What's more, none of these who continue to enumerate these events ever saw them occur, except perhaps for the oldest among them. I saw racism when I was growing up. I saw the fire hoses being used on marchers. I saw the dogs get turned loose one them. I saw the nightsticks used to beat them into submission.

Anyone who has seen that knows the injustice, the inhumanity, the violence directed towards those marchers. That is why those things do not happen anymore. It was one of the brightest moments in American history when a truly free and unbiased media brought those events into living rooms throughout the nation and the world.

That's why it changed. That's why there are anti-discrimination laws. That's why a black, Hispanic, Asian, or other minority job applicant is given at least equal weight -- and some say more weight -- than a qualified white job applicant.

You're 32. You think there is discrimination and inhumanity among us who have commented positively on this thread.

You don't know squat. You don't know what discrimination and inhumanity is. We do. We stand against it. We will never allow it to become part of our culture again.

People have prejudices today. There is no escaping that truth. I have them. You have them. We all have them. Prejudice isn't bigotry, it isn't racism, it isn't hatred. It is a deeply ingrained emotional reaction. We know they exist. We overcome them. We don't allow them to color our relationships with people of other cultures and ethnicities.

Some people, however, do allow their prejudices to come between them and others. More is the pity. But it is a personal feeling. It cannot be legislated out of existence. That amounts to thought control. No one will stand for that.

Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, women, all minorities and previously discriminated-against populations enjoy much-deserved protection under the law. No one should be allowed to tell them they can't work, live, or worship wherever they want.

But the activists, those who harp constantly on ancient history as evidence of discrimination today, want more than equality. They want special treatment. They want the federal government to pay them reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. They want their gangland youth to be allowed to run rampant without being confronted by police officers with guns.

They want to be superior. That, too, cannot be allowed to happen. That is not the way this country works.

I don't care about your heritage. I don't care about theirs. I don't care about mine. Those are walls that separate, not bridges that unite. Be proud of your past, but don't insist that it entitles you to be treated "more equal" than I am treated. It doesn't.
 
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As you can see from my photo, I'm white. But, I was raised by a black woman. (A "Negress", as they were called back in the late 40's and 50's) I probably got stranger looks than Hattie did when we went places, riding in the back of the bus, and being refused entry to many places. I even had to go into "Negro Only" public bathrooms with her.

Frankly, you should really see 1964 as just what it was... political posturing, in large part. To this very day, prejudice (from both races) is still alive and well. And until we learn that the basis of it is not understanding what Christ taught, it will always exist.
 
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Galahad

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As you can see from my photo, I'm white. But, I was raised by a black woman. (A "Negress", as they were called back in the late 40's and 50's) I probably got stranger looks than Hattie did when we went places, riding in the back of the bus, and being refused entry to many places. I even had to go into "Negro Only" public bathrooms with her.

Frankly, you should really see 1964 as just what it was... political posturing, in large part. To this very day, prejudice (from both races) is still alive and well. And until we learn that the basis of it is not understanding what Christ taught, it will always exist.
Willie, I don't see the white in you. You're more of a mocha. Myself, I'm lighter than a mocha. :eek:
 
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Galahad

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Willie, I don't see the white in you. You're more of a mocha. Myself, I'm lighter than a mocha. :eek:
I checked mocha images. I think you lean toward mocha medium, maybe light.

Oh, just forget it. Don't make no difference any how.