Another Christian Bakery Loses Case

[MadParrotWoman]

So another Christian business loses a "discrimination" court case, this time another bakery. It would seem that private hotels bakeries and the like are easy targets for homosexuals looking to make a quick buck in today's courts where discrimination laws are one-sided. It would seem that in society today we must not upset homosexuals or Muslims but if you are a Christian it is "open season" in Britain today. why don't these people cater for their own instead of cherry-picking a Christian business knowing their request will be declined? Worse still they are not really being discriminated against at all when they weren't denied service - just a slogan on a cake!

Just imagine for one moment if a Muslim owned bakery were asked to bake a "Jesus Is Lord" cake and refused on religious grounds. What if they refused to make a cake with a cartoon depiction of Mohammad? Do you think they would be forced to comply?? I think not.

It would seem that in today's society Christians come at the bottom of the stack discrimination-wise, everyone else is protected in the courts. The world has gone mad!

'Gay cake' row: Judge rules against Ashers bakery - BBC News

 

[eternallife7]

It is not our place to judge outsiders just as the are not suppose to judge us. If our enemy is hungry feed them for then you will heaping coals on their head. As scripture say.

 

[MadParrotWoman]

It is not our place to judge outsiders just as the are not suppose to judge us. If our enemy is hungry feed them for then you will heaping coals on their head. As scripture say.

I don't believe anyone was being judged, the bakers were simply refusing to create a slogan which went against their beliefs.

 

[Jeff_56]

Christian Man Asks Thirteen Gay Bakeries To Bake Him Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake, And Is Denied Service By All Of Them (WATCH THE SHOCKING VIDEO) - Walid Shoebat

"Shoebat.com decided to call some 13 prominent pro-gay bakers in a row. Each one denied us the right to have “Gay Marriage Is Wrong” on a cake and even used deviant insults and obscenities against us. One baker even said all sorts of profanities against Christians and ended the conversation by saying that she will make me a cookie with a large phallus on it.

It was all recorded. It will stun the American people as to how militant and intolerant the homosexual bakers were. Even after we completed our experiment we got a ton of hate messages saying that we were “hateful” for simply giving them a taste of their own medicine. They argued that the slogan “Gay Marriage Is Wrong” is not the same thing as “Support Gay Marriage” as if an opposite view of a view is hateful. This would mean that the majority of Americans who oppose gay marriage are “bigoted” and “hate filled”."


gays and gay suporters are not just full of venom and hate, but are dmonically controlled all their lives.

 

[eternallife7]

I don't believe anyone was being judged, the bakers were simply refusing to create a slogan which went against their beliefs.

Oh if it was an inappropriate slogan than they had every right to refuse.

 

[MadParrotWoman]

Christian Man Asks Thirteen Gay Bakeries To Bake Him Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake, And Is Denied Service By All Of Them (WATCH THE SHOCKING VIDEO) - Walid Shoebat

"Shoebat.com decided to call some 13 prominent pro-gay bakers in a row. Each one denied us the right to have “Gay Marriage Is Wrong” on a cake and even used deviant insults and obscenities against us. One baker even said all sorts of profanities against Christians and ended the conversation by saying that she will make me a cookie with a large phallus on it.

It was all recorded. It will stun the American people as to how militant and intolerant the homosexual bakers were. Even after we completed our experiment we got a ton of hate messages saying that we were “hateful” for simply giving them a taste of their own medicine. They argued that the slogan “Gay Marriage Is Wrong” is not the same thing as “Support Gay Marriage” as if an opposite view of a view is hateful. This would mean that the majority of Americans who oppose gay marriage are “bigoted” and “hate filled”."


gays and gay suporters are not just full of venom and hate, but are dmonically controlled all their lives.

I have seen this video before and it only confirms what I knew to be the case anyhow.

I cannot tell you the amount of times I have been "set-upon" for airing my Biblical views on homosexuality on my own facebook wall - no hate just the odd post pointing out God's stance on the issue.

 

[crossnote]

I don't believe anyone was being judged, the bakers were simply refusing to create a slogan which went against their beliefs.

We're just supposed to shush and sit in the back of the bus.

 

[Agricola]

The problem with that experiment is that saying "gay marriage is wrong" is actually breaking discrimination laws. Gay marriage is legal, by then saying that something which is legal is wrong , that then becomes discrimination when it is referring to human rights laws.

I would have rather seen the experiment carried out but by having the words "Jesus Loves you" on the cake, then seeing the reactions to this, if they spit venom and hatred for this, then they could be prosecuted under the same discrimination laws which have seen Christian bakers prosecuted for breaking the law by refusing to put wording supporting homosexuality on cakes.

Christians seem to continually score own goals by playing into the hands of militant homosexuals.

 

[Jeff_56]

okayhere'saneasyone: >> anyonewhowantstokeeptheirstuffoftheworld anyonewholovestheworldoritsstuff cannotbeadiscipleofjesus

thatrulesoutmostpeoplehomosexuealorheteroorother/anynoneorallkinds

sonoonecanboastexceptinyahshuahamashiachmastersaviormessiahkingresurrectedtolifeeternalforeverbyyahweh

 

[crossnote]

The problem with that experiment is that saying "gay marriage is wrong" is actually breaking discrimination laws. Gay marriage is legal, by then saying that something which is legal is wrong , that then becomes discrimination when it is referring to human rights laws.

I would have rather seen the experiment carried out but by having the words "Jesus Loves you" on the cake, then seeing the reactions to this, if they spit venom and hatred for this, then they could be prosecuted under the same discrimination laws which have seen Christian bakers prosecuted for breaking the law by refusing to put wording supporting homosexuality on cakes.

Christians seem to continually score own goals by playing into the hands of militant homosexuals.

I think that as Christians to admit that gay marriage is legal is playing into the hands of the militant homosexuals.
My feeling is that we are to proclaim that it is not evan a marriage in God's eyes let alone being legal. Do you think God sees it as a legal marriage when He has a whole different definition of marriage? Let's not give them any more wool to pull over our eyes than they already have.

And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(Gen 2:22-24)

 

[jahsoul]

I think that as Christians to admit that gay marriage is legal is playing into the hands of the militant homosexuals.
My feeling is that we are to proclaim that it is not evan a marriage in God's eyes let alone being legal. Do you think God sees it as a legal marriage when He has a whole different definition of marriage? Let's not give them any more wool to pull over our eyes than they already have.

And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(Gen 2:22-24)

Legal and natural are 2 different things.

If the government didn't have their hands in marriage, this wouldn't be a discussion but because we tie benefits, tax exemptions, and other things to the title of being married, they want their piece of the pie. Instead of warring against gay marriage we should have been going against the cause of the fight, but many enjoy those benefits themselves. :-(

 

[Nautilus]

okayhere'saneasyone: >> anyonewhowantstokeeptheirstuffoftheworld anyonewholovestheworldoritsstuff cannotbeadiscipleofjesus

thatrulesoutmostpeoplehomosexuealorheteroorother/anynoneorallkinds

sonoonecanboastexceptinyahshuahamashiachmastersaviormessiahkingresurrectedtolifeeternalforeverbyyahweh

Try a space bar. Otherwise its pointless.

 

[Jeff_56]

Try a space bar. Otherwise its pointless.

i did. they're delicious. i like the ones with almonds also.

 

[JesusLives]

Could be that when you provide a public service you should be prepared to do so....not that it means you support the cause. But might come down to a full disclosure such as putting up a notice saying we do not make obscene cakes of body parts so don't ask for one.

I mean how many gossips have the bakers baked for? Adulterers? Liars? Robber/thief? People who dishonor parents or someone who has slandered someone....or the person who just cussed using God's name......Sinners order cakes from bakers all the time it seems that Christians label the worst sins..(if there is such a thing/sin)..when we all have committed them...one is not worse than the next as all sins end with a sentence of death.....So if we were going to run businesses on a moral who is good enough to serve.....Everybody would be out of business....and nobody would get a cake......

And that is how Blond sees it....

 

[Agricola]

I think that as Christians to admit that gay marriage is legal is playing into the hands of the militant homosexuals.
(Gen 2:22-24)

There is a huge difference between agreeing with a law and abiding by a law. Admiting gay marriage is legal is just acknowledging the law of the land, it has nothing to do with accepting it is right as an individual, it is certainly not playing into the hands of militant homosexuals in that respect, We just have to remain wise with our choice of words and love the homosexual.

Someone may not like the fact they have to drive at 20mph on a certain road, but they keep to it because it is the law and they know they will be punished if they break that law.

A Christian who runs a business is bound by equality laws, if an owner refuses a customers request simply because it goes against beliefs and not because it is illegal , then they are breaking the law, in this case the law is clear.

 

[Agricola]

Could be that when you provide a public service you should be prepared to do so....not that it means you support the cause. But might come down to a full disclosure such as putting up a notice saying we do not make obscene cakes of body parts so don't ask for one.

I mean how many gossips have the bakers baked for? Adulterers? Liars? Robber/thief? People who dishonor parents or someone who has slandered someone....or the person who just cussed using God's name......Sinners order cakes from bakers all the time it seems that Christians label the worst sins..(if there is such a thing/sin)..when we all have committed them...one is not worse than the next as all sins end with a sentence of death.....So if we were going to run businesses on a moral who is good enough to serve.....Everybody would be out of business....and nobody would get a cake......

Exactly!

I would also suggest that putting such a notice up would not be necessary anyway, unless you want to be spared listening to the request! Go to any online cake decorating service run by the all the main supermarkets, it is made perfectly clear that they will not produce anything with adult theme or even use profanity in the message. this is not discrimination.


In my job, if a customer calls up and just uses a single profanity, I have the right to hang up on that call, even if it is not aimed at myself or the company. If I hang up on a call just simply because I did not agree with a customers lifestyle I would be sacked!

 

[santuzza]

Commentator Rush Limbaugh had a great idea. Whenever one of these gay couples asks a Christian bakery to produce something that goes against their beliefs, the bakers should simply say they won't do it because they don't want to offend any Muslims! After all, Muslims are against homosexuality as well. And since Muslims are a protected class (at least here in America), then there should be no hoopla, no problem.

I think it's brilliant (if a bit dishonest)!

 

[Jeff_56]

yes, and then on judgment day, yahshua who was offended, will say >> okay now, let's see the muslims save you ! bye bye !

Matthew 10:33 (KJ21) | In Context | Whole Chapter


[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father who is in Heaven.

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[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father who is in heaven.

Matthew 10:33 (AMP) | In Context | Whole Chapter


[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whoever denies and disowns Me before men, I also will deny and disown him before My Father Who is in heaven.




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[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.




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[SUP]33 [/SUP]But everyone who denies me before people, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.




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[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whoever disowns me before others I will disown before my Father in heaven.

 

[didymos]

Time to relax and to just

 

[crossnote]

Legal and natural are 2 different things.

If the government didn't have their hands in marriage, this wouldn't be a discussion but because we tie benefits, tax exemptions, and other things to the title of being married, they want their piece of the pie. Instead of warring against gay marriage we should have been going against the cause of the fight, but many enjoy those benefits themselves. :-(

Legal and natural may be two different things but on both accounts they are tied to the same God who defined Marriage. Marriage was around longer than this nation. What right do we have to redefine it? There is a Legal Court above the Supreme Court of the USA. For Christians to condone this in any way is being complicit to evil.