The Pledge of the Flag written by a Socialist

[Dayo]

The Pledges of the Flag was written by a socialist and truth hidden in plain sight. This why I say folks have a difficult time swallowing the Truth Pill. So socialism has been here since the beginning the seed has been planted, now it is reaping its harvest. Why did Founders chose this pledge for United States? I truly hope America Citizens wake up from their slumber of mind control. American children is in school for 7 hours a day x 5 learning nothing, but lies. This is why I believe in home school because masses of children are indoctrinated by public schools in America with the Agenda of the Elite. It is easier to control children's minds.

The Pledge of Allegiance

The Pledge of Allegiance

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.
In its original form it read:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."​

In 1923, the words, "the Flag of the United States of America" were added. At this time it read:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."​

In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today. Bellamy's daughter objected to this alteration. Today it reads:

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."​

Section 4 of the Flag Code states:

The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.", should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute."

Frequently, politicians, and many ordinaryAmericans, refer to the United States as a democracy. Others find this aggravating because, unlike in a democracy where citizens vote directly on laws, in the United States, elected representatives do – and, therefore, the U.S. is a republic.​

 

[crossnote]

Why do you ascribe the Pledge to the Founders when it was written in 1892?
Perhaps if it was written it 1792 you'd have a case...and from that you say socialism has been here from the beginning?
Homeschooling? Maybe they should ...well.

 

[Dayo]

Why do you ascribe the Pledge to the Founders when it was written in 1892?
Perhaps if it was written it 1792 you'd have a case...and from that you say socialism has been here from the beginning?
Homeschooling? Maybe they should ...well.

Why did the Government agree to this pledge by a socialist?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Christian socialism and Marxist socialism are two different political theories based on two completely different metaphysical worldviews (e.g. Christianity versus secularism/state atheism).

Francis Bellamy (May 18, 1855 – August 28, 1931) was a Christian socialist and Baptist minister. He wasn't a follower of Karl Marx.

At the time he wrote the original Pledge of Allegiance (1892), Protestant America was immersed in the social gospel which followed on the fumes of the very end of the Second Great Awakening.

Understand?

Why did the Government agree to this pledge by a socialist?

 

[ThomistColin]

Why did the Government agree to this pledge by a socialist?

Maybe because...the American Socialists of the turn of the century we by far the most dyed in the wool American Patriotic Fanatics ever to have existed. Seriously, they were nuts!

 

[Desdichado]

Why did the Government agree to this pledge by a socialist?

Easy: Booze.

 

[crossnote]

So socialism has been here since the beginning the seed has been planted, now it is reaping its harvest. Why did Founders chose this pledge for United States?

Why do you ascribe the Pledge to the Founders when it was written in 1892?
Perhaps if it was written it 1792 you'd have a case...and from that you say socialism has been here from the beginning?
Homeschooling? Maybe they should ...well.

Why did the Government agree to this pledge by a socialist?

naw, naw, naw. You first answer me.

 

[Dayo]

Christian socialism and Marxist socialism are two different political theories based on two completely different metaphysical worldviews (e.g. Christianity versus secularism/state atheism).

Francis Bellamy (May 18, 1855 – August 28, 1931) was a Christian socialist and Baptist minister. He wasn't a follower of Karl Marx.


At the time he wrote the original Pledge of Allegiance (1892), Protestant America was immersed in the social gospel which followed on the fumes of the very end of the Second Great Awakening.

Understand?

Seriously!! I guess I need to remind you about Ms. Dayo with an ATTITUDE!!

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

And still she avoids the question!

She's better'n ol' Hill!

Oh, wow ... what if she is ol' Hill?

 

[Dayo]

And still she avoids the question!

She's better'n ol' Hill!

Oh, wow ... what if she is ol' Hill?

I was wondering when you will show up Viligant- Warrior and one person is missing from the rat pack. You know that I definitely have an ATTITUDE with YOU!! All three have unique names that reveal ones personality. You accuse me of a crime that you also committed must I remind you of the crimes violated!?! Do not compare me to the Thomas vs Hill madness which was a scheme from the beginning!

Viligant-Warrior:

• [FONT=arial, sans-serif-light, sans-serif]a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate. I find the rat pack entertaining sometimes full of themselves. Who is Sammy Davis Jr,. Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin. HMMMM! I think you are Frank Sinatra!
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[Dayo]

[h=1]Christian Socialist[/h]

• Word Origin

noun1.a member of any of certain European political parties advocating aform of social organization based on Christian and socialistic principles.

Bible Baptist Publications
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Socialism and the Scriptures
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Defining Socialism

For its first definition of socialism, Merriam-Webster offers the following words: “any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.” There, do you see that? Socialism has to do with government. If you can’t get that straight, then you might as well just stop reading right now. Socialism is not something that happens when Bro. Jones offers a helping hand to Bro. Smith. Socialism is something that happens when governing bodies install and apply certain economic and political policies.
Another definition comes from thefreedictionary.com: “Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.” There it is again: government, or at the least a collectiveproductive and distribution system, both of which have nothing to do with individualism.
A third definition comes from dictionary.reference.com: “a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.” Their third definition is “(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.” Other dictionaries also use this definition.
So, simply stated, socialism is a form of big brother government that a nation goes through in its efforts to forsake free market capitalism and embrace communism.

socialist - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com
A socialist is someone who supports the political philosophy of socialism, which is a governmental system that advocates community ownership and control of all lands and businesses rather than individual ownership.

The Latin word socius meant "companion," and led to the Old French word social, from which the word socialist derived. However, the meaning came to be so much more than just "associate." As opposed to a capitalist, a socialist advocates a society based on cooperation rather than competition . Winston Churchill once said, “It is a socialist idea that making profits is a vice; I consider the real vice is making losses."

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[crossnote]

Christian Socialist
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• Word Origin

noun1.a member of any of certain European political parties advocating aform of social organization based on Christian and socialistic principles.

Bible Baptist Publications
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[TD]Socialism and the Scriptures
Booklet, 26 pages
Copyright © 2009 James L. Melton
Suggested Donation: 75 cents each

Defining Socialism

For its first definition of socialism, Merriam-Webster offers the following words: “any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.” There, do you see that? Socialism has to do with government. If you can’t get that straight, then you might as well just stop reading right now. Socialism is not something that happens when Bro. Jones offers a helping hand to Bro. Smith. Socialism is something that happens when governing bodies install and apply certain economic and political policies.
Another definition comes from thefreedictionary.com: “Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.” There it is again: government, or at the least a collectiveproductive and distribution system, both of which have nothing to do with individualism.
A third definition comes from dictionary.reference.com: “a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.” Their third definition is “(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.” Other dictionaries also use this definition.
So, simply stated, socialism is a form of big brother government that a nation goes through in its efforts to forsake free market capitalism and embrace communism.

socialist - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com
A socialist is someone who supports the political philosophy of socialism, which is a governmental system that advocates community ownership and control of all lands and businesses rather than individual ownership.

The Latin word socius meant "companion," and led to the Old French word social, from which the word socialist derived. However, the meaning came to be so much more than just "associate." As opposed to a capitalist, a socialist advocates a society based on cooperation rather than competition . Winston Churchill once said, “It is a socialist idea that making profits is a vice; I consider the real vice is making losses."

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I hope that isn't your effort to answer my inquiry.?.?

Why do you ascribe the Pledge to the Founders when it was written in 1892?Perhaps if it was written it 1792 you'd have a case...and from that you say socialism has been here from the beginning?

 

[Dayo]

I hope that isn't your effort to answer my inquiry.?.?

That was for AgeofKnowledge! I was undecided who was the third person of the rat pack because it was between you and dcontroversal. I had to follow the pattern of the rat pack. I will answer your question in fifteen minutes.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

That was for AgeofKnowledge! I was undecided who was the third person of the rat pack because it was between you and dcontroversal. I had to follow the pattern of the rat pack. I will answer your question in fifteen minutes.

As I read this, it is 54 minutes later. Clock broken?

 

[Dayo]

naw, naw, naw. You first answer me.

Francis Bellamy is a Christian Socialist who is related Edward Bellamy, who is a socialist utopian novelist. Did the French Revolution War has anything to do with socialism? People need to wake up because the Elite had a plan from the beginning, executing, and implementing towards Socialism. You think President Obama is the only one who believes in Socialism!?! Some say Jesus Christ was a socialist and if you think I am lying research for yourselves. Tides are shifting in America, but masses are zombies.



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Looking Backward
An American journalist influenced by Marxism and Fourierism, Edward Bellamy published the popular utopian novel Looking Backward in 1888. Its hero falls asleep in 1887 and wakes up in the year 2000 to find that America has evolved into an urban “engine” with the efficiency and spirit of a professional army. The book inspired an important political movement, the Nationalists.
In Looking Backward, the year 2000 is rich to the point of excess, cluttered with gadgets and consumer culture. Bellamy foresaw credit cards, shopping malls and even online shopping, in the form of the ordering and delivery of goods through a series of pneumatic tubes underground.
America and the Utopian Dream | Utopian Literature


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American Socialists and Reformers[/h]From The Pledge Of Allegiance, A Revised History and Analysis, 2007
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Copyrighted 2007 by John W. Baer.
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[HR][/HR][h=3]The Bellamy Genealogy[/h]In 1892 most of the nation had heard of Edward Bellamy (1850 - 1898), but very few people knew the name of Edward's first cousin, Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931). During their lifetimes, Edward Bellamy's name was much better known than Francis's. Even today, with almost the whole nation reciting Francis's Pledge, perhaps more people know the name of Edward Bellamy, although neither are recognized by the vast majority of Americans.
In 1892, Edward Bellamy was famous as the author of the best seller, Looking Backward, and the leader of a socialist movement called "Nationalism." Francis Bellamy was a vice president of the Christian Society of Socialists, an auxiliary of Edward's Nationalist movement. Francis worked as a lieutenant in the campaign to nationalize the American economy gradually and peacefully. Occasionally Edward and Francis were mistaken for brothers since both were involved in Nationalism and were only five years apart in age.
Their fathers were brothers who both spent their lives in the Baptist ministry. Edward's father, Rufus King Bellamy (1816 - 1886) was a younger brother of Francis's father, David Bellamy (1806 - 1864). Edward was raised in Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts, now part of Chicopee near Springfield. Francis spent most of his childhood in Rome, New York.
Their grandfather was Jonathan Bellamy (1781 - 1845), a successful merchant in Washington County, New York State. The earliest Bellamy ancestors to arrive in New England had come to Connecticut from England in the 1630's. The most famous of their New England ancestors was Jonathan's grandfather, Joseph Bellamy (1719 - 1790). He had studied under Jonathan Edwards and was a life long friend and lieutenant in Jonathan Edwards's famous revival, the "Great Awakening." Although Jonathan Edward's fire and brimstone theology is now mainly a curiosity, Joseph Bellamy's writings still have an honored place in many seminaries. His theology was compatible with the spirit of the American Revolution.
The orthodox Christianity of the 18th and 19th century often placed the entire responsibility for the sad condition of humanity on the sins of individuals. Marxist theories in the 19th century assumed that individual defects of character were chiefly the result of a faulty economic, political, and social environment. Edward and Francis Bellamy took the intermediate position that both personal character traits and economic, political and social organizations were responsible for many of the miseries of mankind.

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Chapter Three: American Socialists and Reformers

Democracy is the road to socialism.
Karl Marx ( Interesting that Karl Marx stated that because American people always saying America is a democracy. Repeating what they hear as a parrot when the evidence states America is a Republic).

We're going to fight racism not with racism, but we're going to fight with solidarity. We say we're not going to fight capitalism with black capitalism, but we're going to fight it with socialism.
Fred Hampton

More socialism means more democracy, openness and collectivism in everyday life.
Mikhail Gorbachev

With the development of industrial capitalism, a new and unanticipated system of injustice, it is libertarian socialism that has preserved and extended the radical humanist message of the Enlightenment and the classical liberal ideals that were perverted into an ideology to sustain the emerging social order.
Noam Chomsky

The only way to save the world is through socialism, but a socialism that exists within a democracy; there's no dictatorship here.
Hugo Chavez

Socialism violates at least three of the Ten Commandments: It turns government into God, it legalizes thievery and it elevates covetousness. Discussions of income inequality, after all, aren't about prosperity but about petty spite. Why should you care how much money I make, so long as you are happy?
Ben Shapiro

Next thread will be on Constitution of Rome which is truly America Constitution written in modern terms.

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[Viligant_Warrior]

Regardless of the controversial nature of the author of the pledge, he pretty much lost control of his work after it became public domain. And despite his socialist leanings, the Pledge is a strong patriotic statement.

The Blaze: Did You Know a Socialist Baptist Preacher Wrote the U.S. Pledge? Here’s the Odd History

The first amendments came in 1923 and 1924, when the words “my flag” were changed to “the Flag of the United States of America.”

Fearing that incoming immigrants would salute their home flag instead of America’s, the words were purposefully amended. And Bellamy apparently didn’t like the changes, but was seemingly powerless to prevent them. This, of course, was only the beginning [ . . . ] After America entered into World War II, Congress endorsed the Pledge for the first time (it was at this time that the hand-over-heart gesture was adopted).

Interestingly, World War II had another noteworthy impact on the Pledge. Originally, it was said while the right hand made the “Bellamy Salute.” This meant that reciters’ arms would extended outward from the chest. But Hitler and his Nazi salute left people fearing that the Pledge’s gesture was too similar.

So, the practice was amended [ . . . ] “Under God” ... didn’t emerge until 1952, when the Knights of Columbus joined other faith organizations and pushed Congress to add the Almighty into the Pledge.

And another faith leader was at the center of advocating for its inclusion — a Scottish immigrant known as George MacPherson Docherty, a Presbyterian minister. He later became a civil rights activist and worked with Martin Luther King Jr. (another fun fact: two years later, President Dwight D. Eisenhower also signed a law declaring “In God We Trust” the national motto), according to NPR.

So while a socialist may have written it, it has become a most democratic -- which is to say, the way of a democracy -- pledge and Bellamy's penning of it is completely inconsequential. Much ado about nothing, in other words.

 

[Dayo]

Regardless of the controversial nature of the author of the pledge, he pretty much lost control of his work after it became public domain. And despite his socialist leanings, the Pledge is a strong patriotic statement.

So while a socialist may have written it, it has become a most democratic -- which is to say, the way of a democracy -- pledge and Bellamy's penning of it is completely inconsequential. Much ado about nothing, in other words.

Viligant, Viligant! Sigmund Freud mentioned three egos: Id, Ego, & Superego!

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Freud was nuts, one of the biggest egomaniacs (which, if you think about it, is incredibly ironic) and completely and erroneously (as pertains to his theories) fixated on sex. He didn't keep adequate records, case studies, or compile empirical data. In short, he was wrong about almost everything, including the ego, id, and superego. Which actually makes your little electronic poster even funnier.

 

[dcontroversal]

As I read this, it is 54 minutes later. Clock broken?

Wow...I didn't even respond in this post and I am in the running with Crossnote for the third part of the rat pack.......man that so disappoints me.....oh well.....shucks!

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Wow...I didn't even respond in this post and I am in the running with Crossnote for the third part of the rat pack.......man that so disappoints me.....oh well.....shucks!

I must have been found wanting. She only put me on 'ignore.' No rat status for V-Warrior, I guess.