Disability benefits: Court to rule on delay test case

[royalscot]

Disability benefits: Court to rule on delay test case - BBC News
The High Court is expected to rule later on whether the government took too long to process benefit claims by two disabled people.

The unnamed pair waited nine months for Personal Independence Payments (PIPs), and they say this left them dependent on loan sharks and food banks.
They claim the delay was unlawful.

At least 4,500 people have waited more than a year to have their claims processed, and tens of thousands more have waited more than 20 weeks.( that would make unemployment, figgers look better, when 10 of thousands on the side line.)

side note
EU rejects bid to ban animal testing in European labs - BBC News

An EU-wide campaign to stop laboratory experiments on animals has failed to persuade the European Commission to impose a ban.

The Commission said it "welcomes the mobilisation of citizens in support of animal welfare" and will organise an EU conference on animal testing "by 2016" to review the progress made towards reducing such tests.


even a mouse, is intitled to some kind of welfare. lol

 

[Oncefallen]

Disability benefits: Court to rule on delay test case - BBC News
The High Court is expected to rule later on whether the government took too long to process benefit claims by two disabled people.

The unnamed pair waited nine months for Personal Independence Payments (PIPs), and they say this left them dependent on loan sharks and food banks.
They claim the delay was unlawful.

At least 4,500 people have waited more than a year to have their claims processed, and tens of thousands more have waited more than 20 weeks.( that would make unemployment, figgers look better, when 10 of thousands on the side line.)

The normal wait here for disability benefits is two to three years and it typically takes a legal proceeding to actually get benefits awarded.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

The normal wait here for disability benefits is two to three years and it typically takes a legal proceeding to actually get benefits awarded.

Veterans in the U.S. are dying before their treatment and/or benefits are scheduled/awarded.

 

[3Scoreand10]

Veterans in the U.S. are dying before their treatment and/or benefits are scheduled/awarded.

Mabe they should file as non citizens thus going to the front of the line.
Sad, sad state we have become.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Mabe they should file as non citizens thus going to the front of the line.
Sad, sad state we have become.

If that would work, we'd do it (well, not me -- my wife's a NICU nurse and her hospital self-insures, so I haven't gone to the VA for years). But the truly sad state of affairs we've come to is even the documented immigrants who choose to fast-track to citizenship through military service -- men and women who are decorated for heroism and it isn't even their country yet! -- can't get any better treatment than natural-born vets. It's ludicrous.

 

[Oncefallen]

The system is highly messed up.

My wife worked steadily from 16 years old until she was 37 at which time she had a stroke and has been disabled since. After two and a half years fighting through the system she was denied benefits (other than MediCare) not based on medical evidence, Social Security conceded that she met the definition beyond a doubt, but over a technicality.

The last seven years that she worked she was employed by one of the local school districts working with special needs children so she was paying into Colorado Public Employees Retirement instead of Social Security. She had been paying into that system long enough to lose qualification for Social Security Disability, but not long enough to qualify for disability benefits through PERA.

 

[Utah]

They put their faith and action into loan sharks and not a house of worship.

 

[royalscot]

The normal wait here for disability benefits is two to three years and it typically takes a legal proceeding to actually get benefits awarded.

the problem in the uk, is they keep changing the wall paper. ie new government, new way to run, the benefits,and how you get them. etc
but all it seems, to be doing, is stopping people from getting the help the system was put in place to do, ie helping the people that need this help. yet they keep pleading poverty (the government, yet all the working people get1%-2% rise, yet the mps get 10% rise. )

with so many in the grey area, and the government idea to tell propaganda, that there jobs for everyone, yet these people on these lists, are not on the employment lists, so the governments stat s are hog wash, in terms of employment numbers, when thousands are in no mans land, waiting to be told find a job etc.

may be it me, when spending tax money , these system of welfare, were put in place, for when the going got tough, so are we back to a government that is more interested in money , the point i am making is unemployment, the welfare system has been there all my life. yet they change everything every 10-15 years etc thinking these problems will go away, yet all they are doing is using propaganda to better there own political gain. yet the common man is faced with food banks, and such like ideas , to keep from going to a 5 class prison cell with 3 square meals , tv , and a play station. at an average cost to the tax payer (£76,000, these jail, have halal, kosher, meals served in them) lol the plot thicken to how they continue etc

 

[royalscot]

[h=1]PIPs disability benefit delay unlawful, says High Court[/h]

PIPs disability benefit delay unlawful, says High Court - BBC News

A delay in paying welfare benefits to two disabled people was unlawful, the High Court has ruled.
Delays of at least nine months for Personal Independence Payments (PIPs) for these "most vulnerable" of people were unreasonable, a judge ruled.
But the court ruled the pair's human rights were not breached, which means they are not entitled to compensation.
The pair's lawyers said the ruling showed "clear failings" in the system, but ministers said it was improving.
PIPs, which began replacing Disability Living Allowance in 2013, are meant to help the long-term sick and disabled with some of their extra costs.
There are currently 78,700 people waiting to hear if they can claim PIPs, of whom 3,200 have waited more than a year to have their claims processed, and 22,800 have waited more than 20 weeks.


[h=2]System 'unfit'[/h]Elliot Dunster, of the disability charity Scope, said the judgement "demonstrates the importance of extra costs payments to disabled people".
"Life costs more if you are disabled. Extra costs can make it extremely hard for disabled people to pay the bills. Every day without them is another day unable to afford the essentials in life."
Richard Kramer, from the national deafblind charity Sense, said these cases were "a reminder that there is some way to go before the system can be regarded as fit for purpose and customer-facing for all disabled people".
Gillian Guy, chief executive of Citizens Advice, said delays to PIP assessments are "unacceptably common" and that the system was not fit for purpose.
"PIP is a key part of our welfare system. It defies common decency that some disabled people are waiting months on end just to find out if they're entitled to the necessary support."
Chris Mould, chairman of the Trussell Trust, which runs more than 400 UK food banks, said "benefit sanctions, changes and delays" were the biggest reason why people were referred to its food banks in 2014-15.

 

[Billyd]

The current path of money in the US is print, give, spend, and hoard.

The government prints it and gives it in the form of handouts.
Those who receive the handouts, spent the money on products sold by those who already have money.
Those who already have money become richer.

Today more than 50% of the population of the US depend on the government for more than half their income. Of them, how many are going to vote for a candidate who is advertising reducing the "benefits" that they are receiving.

What will that dollar in your pocket today be worth in twenty years? The one I had in my pocket in 1950, is worth less than a dime.

I wonder how many of the people who are now disabled would work if there were no government benefits for them?

 

[royalscot]

The current path of money in the US is print, give, spend, and hoard.

The government prints it and gives it in the form of handouts.
Those who receive the handouts, spent the money on products sold by those who already have money.
Those who already have money become richer.

Today more than 50% of the population of the US depend on the government for more than half their income. Of them, how many are going to vote for a candidate who is advertising reducing the "benefits" that they are receiving.

What will that dollar in your pocket today be worth in twenty years? The one I had in my pocket in 1950, is worth less than a dime.

I wonder how many of the people who are now disabled would work if there were no government benefits for them?

they change the rules ,when they like. there is a difference , when you work you depend on getting the pay you agreed when taking up employment. yet when the change the rules in the middle of your employment , what are you to do, given now, at a guess you owe rent or morgage payment, and have a car loan etc. so your now in emotional black mail to the system that your trying to stay clear from. nd now they have added by law so that in some cases you cant go on strike. (down tools, and walk of the job etc) who is kidding who.

the system was there for that reason
in the same way, when you depend on welfare, why the emotional black mail, the system was suppost to be there for that purpose, and to think, just because you pay tax , so what do you do. you have a voice should it be listened too. etc

i would like to say yes in regard to the voice being listened too, but sadly the echos of voices are falling on deaf ears. etc