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This is more than a case of believers being "overwhelmed by a culture that challenges beliefs, is less Christian than the past, and seems to be faithless." It has now proven itself intolerant, not just challenging of beliefs. The culture isn't Christian at all, not just less so. The culture doesn't seem to be faithless, it is downright uncaring about faith.
We are seeing the persecution the rest of the church in the world has known for the last many decades coming to the front door of the United States. This is not "overwhelming." This is a time of prayer, preparation, and renewed resolved, not a time to consider that perhaps the culture is falling out of our reach with the Gospel. Pastor Chevalier delivers a strong message -- but it is ten years too late.
We are seeing the persecution the rest of the church in the world has known for the last many decades coming to the front door of the United States. This is not "overwhelming." This is a time of prayer, preparation, and renewed resolved, not a time to consider that perhaps the culture is falling out of our reach with the Gospel. Pastor Chevalier delivers a strong message -- but it is ten years too late.
And should we talk smack about our President and government or should we do what Daniel did? I don't agree with our government and don't agree with Obama, but God tells us He puts these people in power. We are suppose to pray for them and not attack them with insults and comments.
Everyone likes to point fingers but at everyone else but themselves. I'm not saying you aren't praying for our nation but most Christians don't spend anytime in prayer and they wonder why things are happening.
Everyone likes to point fingers but at everyone else but themselves. I'm not saying you aren't praying for our nation but most Christians don't spend anytime in prayer and they wonder why things are happening.
V
Unless I'm mistaken, the flag you displayed for your nation when you posted that last set of remarks was Germany's. Now you're from the U.S.? "Our president"? Really?
God put them in power, yes, and for His purposes, yes. But that doesn't mean I have to like the fact the rest of the nation has brought us to a point that judgment is finally upon us, does it? Nor does it mean that I can't complain about the actions of a lost, unbelieving man that affect negatively the entire nation, whether many of us in this nation know that to be the case or not.
Seems to me that is exactly what you were accusing me of, actually.
God has told us the way the end times unfold. God will not change His mind about this, so if you think things will ever get better, I must question your knowledge of the Bible. I pray you take no offense at this. We have reached those end times, the last days of the last days. It look like it is going to move pretty quickly from here. Pray you can have influence with those around you, and don't worry about the fate of God's tool for bringing the beginning of destruction.
God put them in power, yes, and for His purposes, yes. But that doesn't mean I have to like the fact the rest of the nation has brought us to a point that judgment is finally upon us, does it? Nor does it mean that I can't complain about the actions of a lost, unbelieving man that affect negatively the entire nation, whether many of us in this nation know that to be the case or not.
Seems to me that is exactly what you were accusing me of, actually.
God has told us the way the end times unfold. God will not change His mind about this, so if you think things will ever get better, I must question your knowledge of the Bible. I pray you take no offense at this. We have reached those end times, the last days of the last days. It look like it is going to move pretty quickly from here. Pray you can have influence with those around you, and don't worry about the fate of God's tool for bringing the beginning of destruction.
and I agree!!!!!
God is in control, but as part of the priesthood it is our job to be part of the tools by which he convicts and saves. If the highest court in the nation makes a judgment on something they frankly have no authority to make, then it is not only the right but the duty of Christians to speak out against it.
Even if it is to be heard and nothing else.
Even if it is to be heard and nothing else.
K
Yes we do have the right to speak out against these things that happen that are against God's laws, however in speaking where we stand on this does not have to go as far as belittling, demeaning, and speaking ill-will on another.
Jesus says we are still to show love, bless, do good, and pray for those who are doing and living wrong !!!
K
Well if you are speaking of the standard of how we are allowed in the bible to rebuke and reprove our fellow brethren, as well as others by how they are misbehaving then I will agree. However once again some have gone and even misused how we are to handle the rebuking and reproving process, as they forget the last stage that goes along with this and that is to esteem them by love and God's word.