Russian army now in Syria?

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Lol if you can tell me a way to escape the world without dying first I'll go frankly. For all the nations are corrupt and yea, even the whole world is terrible. Friendship with the world is enmity with God it is written.

Democracy doesn't even exist, never has. Secularism is a lie. I genuinely believe this, and yea it is not just belief, but also knowledge. I reckon those that call people trolls do so because they either do not understand or they do not want to accept reality. This is in part why I do not call anyone a troll, a fool, or stupid.
Well now you have had your little rant I hope you feel better. Of course you are entitled to your opinion such as it is
 
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Well now you have had your little rant I hope you feel better. Of course you are entitled to your opinion such as it is
Have I not said, Aye you are right about Putin, whom is the head of Russia? Though indeed, point not out Russia's problems unless you're willing to look at America and Britain too.

You say much against me personally it seems.
Go to and declare what have I said against you here. Are you America? Are you Syria? Are you Russia? Are you Britain? Nay but you are Sir Tanach, a man with a picture of a happy looking cat. But since you will receive me as stupid, a ranter, and a troll let me therefore prattle off for you a fairy tale with a question.

Russia then is a cat, even a cold tom cat that only regards himself. He uses the cat of Syria but only for Syria's hunting grounds and for Russia's own gain. Syria let's Russia use him as long as he protects him from other cats. In this thing Russia does so to his word though he be right hard hearted and wood.

Then there is a she-cat called the West. Sensual she roams the alley in her shameful heat lying with as many mongrels as she can by her charms and her lies. She goes after Syria promising to fight his most foul kitty enemy whom is eating up his land. She sleeps with the Kurds, she sleeps with the Turks, she sleeps with Iran, she sleeps with Iraq, she sleeps the rebellious kittens of Syria. She even sharpens their claws. She betrays them and they betray her and they claw each other and much fur flies. She openly conspires to claw the head of Syria when she gets the chance.

Which cat therefore deals better with Syria?
 
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Well, Russia is unfortunately the part of the Western World, no matter how much it wants to prove the opposite. It's a predator capitalist country, which exploiters the other nations it has influence on (like Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Middle East) and it fights hard, if one of its sphere of influence countries tries to break free, like Ukraine. The Russian government is fully capitalized and has every sign of capitalism, like corruption, good medicine, not accessible by the majority, who lacks money, not free education (yes, the free education and medicine still exist in Russia, but free medicine is really bad and free education is only accessible to the TOP students, who get a really high score). So I don't really understand, when people diverse Russia and the Western countries, because Russia is truly the part of the Western world. Politically it opposes America, but still uses the same American system itself, as any other European nation.
 
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Well, Russia is unfortunately the part of the Western World, no matter how much it wants to prove the opposite. It's a predator capitalist country, which exploiters the other nations it has influence on (like Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Middle East) and it fights hard, if one of its sphere of influence countries tries to break free, like Ukraine. The Russian government is fully capitalized and has every sign of capitalism, like corruption, good medicine, not accessible by the majority, who lacks money, not free education (yes, the free education and medicine still exist in Russia, but free medicine is really bad and free education is only accessible to the TOP students, who get a really high score). So I don't really understand, when people diverse Russia and the Western countries, because Russia is truly the part of the Western world. Politically it opposes America, but still uses the same American system itself, as any other European nation.
Aye indeed your analysis is very good lady Helensiv! Just to be clear, when I say The West, I mean the common term for what is mostly NATO, particularly with regard to Western Europe and America. Kind of a Cold War term. I don't believe communism or democracy ever exist, or can even exist. Merely there's those that try, or at least pretend to for ulterior motives. Russia is not the Soviet Union, for the USSR died whilst I was in diapers, but Russia is his cub. I see how modern Russia seems to internally be in an identity crises between whether he is like his Tsarist Empire of old, Mother Russia, or whether he is more like unto his old Soviet Father. Indeed Russia is a predator, even a bear. America is a predator too, even an eagle. Nations are like wild animals, preying upon and being preyed upon, fighting over territory, and more.
 
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I believe the US is trying to remove Assad from power but in a covert way. I think Russia caught wind of this plan, which would make sense why Russia is showing an increased presence in Syria. And that is the main conflict of interests between the US and it's allies, and Russia and it's allies. This could turn into a big mess real quick if the big dogs clash.


The US just recently asked Greece to deny Russia flights to Syria....

U.S. asks Greece to deny Russian flights to Syria

I also found out something else that was interesting when researching who all is fighting whom in this Syrian conflict. I came across an article about a planned invasion of Syria this summer by Turkey and Jordan which was leaked, which would explain Turkey giving the US permission to use it's airspace recently. But what was fishy was the article was deleted, but I found the backup article here....



Summer 2015 Invasion of Syria - Deletionpedia.org
 

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I wonder...

Ezekiel 38:8-12 KJV
[8] After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. [9] Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. [10] Thus saith the Lord God ; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: [11] And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, [12] To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.


Ezekiel 38:15-18 KJV
[15] And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: [16] And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. [17] Thus saith the Lord God ; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? [18] And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God , that my fury shall come up in my face.
 
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I wonder...

Ezekiel 38:8-12 KJV
[8] After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. [9] Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. [10] Thus saith the Lord God ; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: [11] And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, [12] To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.


Ezekiel 38:15-18 KJV
[15] And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: [16] And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. [17] Thus saith the Lord God ; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? [18] And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God , that my fury shall come up in my face.
I believe Ezekiel 38 is speaking of the battle of Gog and Magog which takes place after the thousand year reign of Christ.

Revelation 20:6-8[SUP]6 [/SUP]Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."

There are a few things that confirm this in Ezekiel 38, one is the waste places of Israel are rebuilt and the people are dwelling safely. Also it calls the land of Israel a place without walls. We know currently Israel and it's inhabitants are not dwelling safely, and they have huge walls for defense.

Ezekiel 38.....

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,.....

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

Notice how the Lord destroys his army.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Now compare to Revelation 20:9 "And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 
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*US creates and funds ISIS so that the US has grounds to enter Syria 6 months after US citizens said no way.*

*Russia, having no advantageous ties to the U.S.-owned terrorist organization, wants to "help out" and kill those dastardly terrorists*

I don't say things like this about Putin very often, but....

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I believe Ezekiel 38 is speaking of the battle of Gog and Magog which takes place after the thousand year reign of Christ.

Revelation 20:6-8[SUP]6 [/SUP]Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."

There are a few things that confirm this in Ezekiel 38, one is the waste places of Israel are rebuilt and the people are dwelling safely. Also it calls the land of Israel a place without walls. We know currently Israel and it's inhabitants are not dwelling safely, and they have huge walls for defense.

Ezekiel 38.....

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,.....

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

Notice how the Lord destroys his army.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Now compare to Revelation 20:9 "And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
I don't believe so...

Ezekiel 38:8 KJV[8] After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

latter years is never used for the Millennium.
Near the end of the Millennium Israel is not brought back from the sword, she had been brought back to the Lord through the Trib.
In theMillennium she wasn't gathered out of many people, nor was she in the Trib. She was gathered out of many people in the 20th and 21st century.
in their own estimation they are dwelling in safety...til now with this nuclear deal.
Sooo, who knows for sure"
 
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Hey why not? Turkey just sent troops in Iraq to fight the Kurds, before too long they won't know who is fighting who over there. LOL

I saw yesterday in the news where Russia was setting up new air defense missile systems Syria..... "As reported, Russia will be deploying advanced S-300 air defense missile systems at the Jablah base. Follow-on troops from the Russian Marine Brigades 810 and 336 will be assigned to the base."

But whose aircraft are they going to target because ISIS does not have any? LOL Russia also said the nuclear sub and ships are there to practice maneuvers, so no worries. LOL
 

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Hey why not? Turkey just sent troops in Iraq to fight the Kurds, before too long they won't know who is fighting who over there. LOL
Well as some say, Ezekiel 38 calls for Turkey to be involved...


Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
(Eze 38:6)
 
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Well as some say, Ezekiel 38 calls for Turkey to be involved...


Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
(Eze 38:6)
I believe Ezekiel 38 is speaking of the battle of Gog and Magog which takes place after the thousand year reign of Christ.

Revelation 20:6-8[SUP]6 [/SUP]Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."

There are a few things that confirm this in Ezekiel 38, one is the waste places of Israel are rebuilt and the people are dwelling safely. Also it calls the land of Israel a place without walls. We know currently Israel and it's inhabitants are not dwelling safely, and they have huge walls for defense. :)

Ezekiel 38.....

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,.....

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

Notice how the Lord destroys his army.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Now compare to Revelation 20:9 "And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. :)
 

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Well, Russia is unfortunately the part of the Western World, no matter how much it wants to prove the opposite. It's a predator capitalist country, which exploiters the other nations it has influence on (like Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, North Korea, Middle East) and it fights hard, if one of its sphere of influence countries tries to break free, like Ukraine. The Russian government is fully capitalized and has every sign of capitalism, like corruption, good medicine, not accessible by the majority, who lacks money, not free education (yes, the free education and medicine still exist in Russia, but free medicine is really bad and free education is only accessible to the TOP students, who get a really high score). So I don't really understand, when people diverse Russia and the Western countries, because Russia is truly the part of the Western world. Politically it opposes America, but still uses the same American system itself, as any other European nation.
you did read George Orwells.. Animal Farm? (Or was it banned, where you live?). Remember all pigs are equal, (East or West), it's just that some pigs are more equal than others :)
 
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I'm glad Russia is sending troops to fight with the Syrians and defeat Isis. Seems to me the Nato countries have completely turned a blind eye to the systematic rape, beheading, child murder, molestation of the Syrian Christians that these so called holy men are doing in the name of their God. At least someone is willing to send in their Troops to fight these animals. So therefore I applaud them I would imagine the Syrian Christians will be really glad to see them too!
 
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I believe a lot more countries will be sending troops to the region because of the migrant crisis. It won't be because they care for Christians or any other people, but because they care for themselves and protecting their own interests, their own borders and countries from the mass exodus of refugees.
 

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I believe Ezekiel 38 is speaking of the battle of Gog and Magog which takes place after the thousand year reign of Christ.

Revelation 20:6-8[SUP]6 [/SUP]Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea."

There are a few things that confirm this in Ezekiel 38, one is the waste places of Israel are rebuilt and the people are dwelling safely. Also it calls the land of Israel a place without walls. We know currently Israel and it's inhabitants are not dwelling safely, and they have huge walls for defense. :)

Ezekiel 38.....

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,.....

[SUP]14 [/SUP]Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord God; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?

Notice how the Lord destroys his army.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Now compare to Revelation 20:9 "And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. :)
problem is right after the Rev 20 event is the White Throne Judgment whereas in Ezek 7 months are spent burying the dead.
Also in Rev 20 the armies com from the whole earth but in Ezek mainly from the North.