Russian army now in Syria?

[InSpiritInTruth]

I just got done watching a Frontline show on Putin and how corrupt and evil the government is there and thought I'd post it because it makes ole Sadam seem like a girl scout in comparison. Here's the video by the way, worth the watch if you want to know some of the history of Putin, his corrupt ways and rise to power.

frontline putin's way - Bing Videos

But anyway, while searching this video I saw some reports that Russia now has boots on the ground in Syria, not sure if this is true but some news reports say it is.

Russia Puts Boots on the Ground in Syria - The Daily Beast

Syria: Russian soldiers fighting alongside pro-Assad troops

Russian combat troops Syria | Syrian Civil War | Middle East

I also recently saw not too long ago where the US military personel were claiming Russia to be the greatest threat to national security, here's one article on that.

Russia greatest threat to US, Milley tells lawmakers | Article | The United States Army

If these reports are true, then things just got a lot more unstable with Russia in the mix.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

A good documentary you might like is The Putin System. Though be aware that it is obviously put out by American intelligence and counter-intelligence so it is quite biased, but nevertheless is very revealing of how he uses Gazprom to maintain his secular power.

 

[Helensiv]

It honestly is quite offencive for me, as I live here. This country is not as bad as you think, and Russia has no interest in invading Syria, but it must protect its borders, because terrorists of the IS claimed they're going to invade Russia from its most unstable region, the North Caucasus.

 

[tanach]

It would be no surprise to me. Russia has a Naval Base in Syria and has probably had troops there all along. I think Putin would do anything to prop up Assad as long as Russian interests are at stake

 

[Helensiv]

Well, the USA has naval and military bases all over the world. None says it's bad, but out country must protect its interests, too. By the way, Russia is also enemy to the Islamic State. We must unite against the common threat.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

It honestly is quite offencive for me, as I live here. This country is not as bad as you think, and Russia has no interest in invading Syria, but it must protect its borders, because terrorists of the IS claimed they're going to invade Russia from its most unstable region, the North Caucasus.

You speak well. Call it not an invasion, for Assad is the rightful king of Syria, for now. Russia and Syria have a long-standing alliance, and Russia must honor its word regardless of the threats by the Islamic State. Nevertheless, it matters not what land any of us sojourn in. Be wary of Putin as equally as one ought be wary of America.

 

[tanach]

If Russia had good intentions towards the people of Syria. Putin would have used his influence way back in the beginning to stop Assad mowing down unarmed demonstrators and avoid the destruction of the country. Failing that he could have allowed the UN to intervene long before now, but it is too late. I'm not a Prophet but predict that Turkey and Israel will be dragged into the situation soon I wonder where Russia will stand then.

 

[Helensiv]

This is the politics. Russia has neither good nor bad intentions towards Syrian people, but it will use its influence to protect itself, even if this will hurt a different nation. America does the same, though.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

If Russia had good intentions towards the people of Syria. Putin would have used his influence way back in the beginning to stop Assad mowing down unarmed demonstrators and avoid the destruction of the country. Failing that he could have allowed the UN to intervene long before now, but it is too late. I'm not a Prophet but predict that Turkey and Israel will be dragged into the situation soon I wonder where Russia will stand then.

Yea, Putin is looking out for his own interests, the strength of his word and to maintain his bases. Nevertheless it is a shameful thing to us for Putin has dealt more righteously in the matter of Syria than the West. I suppose that America and Britain intended well for the people of Syria to see them loosed from the clutches of a dictator, but behold for all their intentions they only did empower the Islamic State, whom being the true followers of islam have oppressed many people more than Assad has in his entire life. Now they even threaten the whole world. Behold how America and Britain are recompensed for their intentions, their self-proclaimed wisdom of democracy and secularism made foolish.

Yea and as for Turkey, is she not in the war all ready? Has she not shown herself to also empower the Islamic State by her treacherously turning against the Kurds?

Lament for Israel, for she is now compassed around by violence.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

It honestly is quite offencive for me, as I live here. This country is not as bad as you think, and Russia has no interest in invading Syria, but it must protect its borders, because terrorists of the IS claimed they're going to invade Russia from its most unstable region, the North Caucasus.

You shouldn't be offended because of others corruption, as the US government is also full of lies and corruption. After watching that video I'm convinced Putin and his government are also corrupt, but so are most governments in the world today. I'm not proud of leaders who are corrupt, so I'm not offended if one calls corruption in the US what it is, corrupt. LOL


But a few bad leaders don't make the people of the whole country they lead corrupt, unless the people follow that leader in their corruption.

 

[tanach]

Yea, Putin is looking out for his own interests, the strength of his word and to maintain his bases. Nevertheless it is a shameful thing to us for Putin has dealt more righteously in the matter of Syria than the West. I suppose that America and Britain intended well for the people of Syria to see them loosed from the clutches of a dictator, but behold for all their intentions they only did empower the Islamic State, whom being the true followers of islam have oppressed many people more than Assad has in his entire life. Now they even threaten the whole world. Behold how America and Britain are recompensed for their intentions, their self-proclaimed wisdom of democracy and secularism made foolish.

Yea and as for Turkey, is she not in the war all ready? Has she not shown herself to also empower the Islamic State by her treacherously turning against the Kurds?

Lament for Israel, for she is now compassed around by violence.

I have read some rubbish on this site during the past few months but you deserve a special award for your contribution.
The UN runs a system whereby major decisions are made and ratified by the security council. The UK and USA and Russia are key members of that council. It was the Russians that blocked any attempt to stop the Syria situation. Isis is just one more terrorist organisation from a long line of terrorists. Iraqs Government and Army are to blame for their success by running away, leaving tons of equipment to Isis and losing Mosul, their second city. The Turkish/Kurd situation has been
running for years, long before Isis had ever been heard of, or the Syria the war had started. As for Israel they have been
in their situation since 1948 it has been the' pretentious secularism and democracy' from the west and the USA in particular that has kept them going. I am wondering why you have adopted a Pseudo sixteenth century form of English
to make your point. I suppose we should be grateful you didn't write it in Biblical Hebrew or Greek. On the other hand then most of us would have a good excuse for not being able to read it

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I have read some rubbish on this site during the past few months but you deserve a special award for your contribution.
The UN runs a system whereby major decisions are made and ratified by the security council. The UK and USA and Russia are key members of that council. It was the Russians that blocked any attempt to stop the Syria situation. Isis is just one more terrorist organisation from a long line of terrorists. Iraqs Government and Army are to blame for their success by running away, leaving tons of equipment to Isis and losing Mosul, their second city. The Turkish/Kurd situation has been
running for years, long before Isis had ever been heard of, or the Syria the war had started. As for Israel they have been
in their situation since 1948 it has been the' pretentious secularism and democracy' from the west and the USA in particular that has kept them going. I am wondering why you have adopted a Pseudo sixteenth century form of English
to make your point. I suppose we should be grateful you didn't write it in Biblical Hebrew or Greek. On the other hand then most of us would have a good excuse for not being able to read it

Does the West make an accord with Assad and even now considers betraying their word? Is it because the West has double-dealt with Syria, the Kurds, Iraq, Iran, and Libya that they themselves reap of the treachery they have sown? Therefore the secularist shall be confounded, and the West shall not prevail, but even the worst of all nations shall defy them.

Secularism and democracy are lies. The Lord has kept Israel safe and he alone, not the West, and not their lies.

 

[crossnote]

I have read some rubbish on this site during the past few months but you deserve a special award for your contribution.
The UN runs a system whereby major decisions are made and ratified by the security council. The UK and USA and Russia are key members of that council. It was the Russians that blocked any attempt to stop the Syria situation. Isis is just one more terrorist organisation from a long line of terrorists. Iraqs Government and Army are to blame for their success by running away, leaving tons of equipment to Isis and losing Mosul, their second city. The Turkish/Kurd situation has been
running for years, long before Isis had ever been heard of, or the Syria the war had started. As for Israel they have been
in their situation since 1948 it has been the' pretentious secularism and democracy' from the west and the USA in particular that has kept them going. I am wondering why you have adopted a Pseudo sixteenth century form of English
to make your point. I suppose we should be grateful you didn't write it in Biblical Hebrew or Greek. On the other hand then most of us would have a good excuse for not being able to read it

That honor goes to Obama for pulling out troops wayyyy to early.

 

[Desdichado]

This is the politics. Russia has neither good nor bad intentions towards Syrian people, but it will use its influence to protect itself, even if this will hurt a different nation. America does the same, though.

Actually, the United States has not protected itself or its interests of late. In this way, I wish our leaders behaved more like Russia.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

US foreign policy of divide and conquer has helped inflame all this mess between Shia and Sunni, even fueling the fire for the Taliban and ISIS to become even stronger. The US government policy is good at the divide part, but lacking in the conquer portion of the program. LOL Here is a brief overview of what US policy did to escalate the rise of ISIS in Iraq.......

The conflict between Iraqi Sunnis and Shias sustains ISIS - 17 things about ISIS and Iraq you need to know - Vox

Quote from article.....

A majority of Iraqi Arabs are Shias, but Sunnis ran the show when Saddam Hussein, himself Sunni, ruled Iraq. Saddam spread a false belief, still surprisingly persistent in the country today, that Sunnis were the real majority in Iraq. Thus, Sunnis felt, and still feel, entitled to larger shares of political power than might perhaps be warranted by their size.

Meanwhile, the Iraqi civil war sparked after the 2003 US-led invasion had a brutally sectarian cast to it, and the pseudo-democracy that emerged afterward empowered the Shia majority (with some heavy-handed help from Washington) at the expense of the Sunni minority. Today, the two groups don't trust one another and so far have competed in what they see as a zero-sum game for control over Iraqi political institutions. In 2013, Shias used control over the police force to arbitrarily detain Sunni protestors demanding more representation in government in 2013.

So long as Shias control the government, and Sunnis don't feel like they're fairly represented, ISIS has an audience for its radical Sunni message. That's an important part of how ISIS built up support in Iraq's heavily Sunni northwest.

 

[dcontroversal]

I heard a while back from a personal source still involved that Russia had advisors there over a year ago.......

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I heard a while back from a personal source still involved that Russia had advisors there over a year ago.......

It's true, they've had advisors and troops there for quite a few years actually, and it's not even secret, but it's not front page news either. It's also no secret that's where Assad gets his equipment.

From 2012:
Russian military presence in Syria poses challenge to US-led intervention | World news | The Guardian

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I heard a while back from a personal source still involved that Russia had advisors there over a year ago.......

This report here confirms the same, but there seems to be evidence that Russia may have troops on the ground. Here's another recent news report...

US monitoring reports Russia has stepped up Syria presence | Fox News

Quote from article....

Syrian state media reported this week that Russian forces were fighting alongside Assad's army. The Times of London reported Thursday that video shot by a militia loyal to Assad and aired on SANA, Syria's state-run television station, showed troops backed by an armored vehicle. The newspaper also reported that Russian voices could clearly be heard in the film, which claimed to show government forces fighting rebels in the Latakia Mountains, near Syria's Mediterranean coast.
We are aware of reports that Russia may have deployed military personnel and aircraft to Syria, and we are monitoring those reports quite closely," White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters Thursday
"Any military support to the Assad regime for any purpose, whether it's in the form of military personnel, aircraft supplies, weapons, or funding, is both destabilizing and counterproductive."
State Department spokesman Mark Toner echoed Earnest's message, saying "we have seen various reports that Russia may be deploying military personnel ... we're unclear what these might be used for." Toner added that he was "not sure that we have contacted [Moscow] about this yet."

Observers have long believed that Russian military advisers are working with Assad as part of Moscow's longstanding support for Syria's regime. However, the video shown by SANA, if confirmed to be genuine, would be the first time Russian forces have been seen taking part in actual combat operations.

 

[tanach]

Does the West make an accord with Assad and even now considers betraying their word? Is it because the West has double-dealt with Syria, the Kurds, Iraq, Iran, and Libya that they themselves reap of the treachery they have sown? Therefore the secularist shall be confounded, and the West shall not prevail, but even the worst of all nations shall defy them.

Secularism and democracy are lies. The Lord has kept Israel safe and he alone, not the West, and not their lies.

As you seem to hate the west so much I am surprised you still live in it. Why not try moving to some other part of the world
more to your liking? So 'The Lord alone has kept Israel safe' I suppose their military equipment and nuclear capability' fell
straight from Heaven. You claim to hate secularism and democracy well they have both and boast about being the only democracy in the region. I cant' really believe you are genuine. I reckon you are a troll just here to wind people up.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

As you seem to hate the west so much I am surprised you still live in it. Why not try moving to some other part of the world
more to your liking? So 'The Lord alone has kept Israel safe' I suppose their military equipment and nuclear capability' fell
straight from Heaven. You claim to hate secularism and democracy well they have both and boast about being the only democracy in the region. I cant' really believe you are genuine. I reckon you are a troll just here to wind people up.

Lol if you can tell me a way to escape the world without dying first I'll go frankly. For all the nations are corrupt and yea, even the whole world is terrible. Friendship with the world is enmity with God it is written.

Democracy doesn't even exist, never has. Secularism is a lie. I genuinely believe this, and yea it is not just belief, but also knowledge. I reckon those that call people trolls do so because they either do not understand or they do not want to accept reality. This is in part why I do not call anyone a troll, a fool, or stupid.