Classic Russian double-cross: U.S.-backed separtists are bombing targets

[GodIsSalvation]

The first two are true, but if you condemn them for rebelling against their government, you must also condemn our founding fathers for rebelling against George III. I pray you would not do that.

The last part of the statement is incorrect. They are not aligned with anything but democracy.

Do more research into them. They are not as Obama portrays them to be. Democracy isn't even real, it's just propaganda. Wikipedia is not perfect, but it's a good starting point if you don't want to watch the brutal videos of the war (though there's those too to be found.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

 

[Galahad]

ISIS is nothing. Basically a lot of hype. They are just Al Queda with more drama. Once their supply routes are cut it will be over fast. Watching videos of them in battle you quickly realize that most of them are amateurs and a bunch of terror tourists. They love to take selfies of themselves as they get blown up yelling allah ackbar. Assad was handling them well, but now with Russian satellite intel, logistics and their firepower it is no match. Game over.

No. Not a lot of hype. That's similar to what Obama said about them not too long ago.

Yet, they behead Christians. They rape women and children. They cage people and set them on fire. They sell women into slavery. No. Not a lot of hype. They are haters of God. They have weapons and use them on the unarmed, the weak, those who can't defend themselves. All that is true. And that's not hype.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

Good point. The problem in Syria, though, is the rebels are salafists who want to bring in Sharia law. Syrians who want a secular democratic state are behind Assad.

Also a good point, but from what I know of the Syrian rebels, they are not set on bringing Sha'ria Law into place by force, but by democratic majority. I may be wrong about that, however, so if I am, perhaps you can point me to sources that will clarify that point for me. Thanks.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

Rooting for Russia...and then...Our government. Those are my feelings as well. I understand your rooting for Russia. There's a hope that Russia's actions just might jolt or wake up Obama. It's a long shot. It's like wanting the truth of Obama's stupidity to spring up and be realized now. The sooner the better.

Russia and Our government are antithetical! It's too bad and very unfortunate that people don't know world history. Nations and empires fell when they shrunk back from fear of their enemies. If Russia and other such countries seize leverage through our failure to retain the upper hand, we'll too go the way of history.

Agreed. We are so far off the rails right now. I would hope that we correct course here soon. Russia isn't a squeaky clean model of perfection either and it's a testament to how far we have fallen that we are morally on the low ground at the moment.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I would disagree. They have prevailed over enemies that outnumbered them and had higher technology than them. Even with America, the technological superpower against them, they were not slowed down, but still gained tremendous amounts of ground and troops this year, though the media tries to downplay this. It is never good to overestimate nor underestimate your enemy. We must do our best to see them as they are. They won't last forever indeed, but for now they are the prevalent force in this theater.
It can change though and indeed it will. The theme of the war in Syria has been the dramatic twists and turns it takes.

No they haven't prevailed against greater forces. Mosul wasn't overthrown; it was deserted because the military leaders there were in cahoots with ISIS and abandoned the Iraqi army there. They haven't defeated any superior forces. The only way they can win territory is when they vastly outnumber its defenders and swarm in like Mad Max marauders. That can't happen anymore with satellite intel. And they really haven't gained much territory. They got Idlib, but that was because Turkey made that happen. Once the Turkish border is sealed new recruits will be no more. Besides their sponsors are starting to abandon them.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Also a good point, but from what I know of the Syrian rebels, they are not set on bringing Sha'ria Law into place by force, but by democratic majority. I may be wrong about that, however, so if I am, perhaps you can point me to sources that will clarify that point for me. Thanks.

Sharia by force or vote is still a disaster for humanity. If sharia was introduced all minorities, including Christians, would be purged.

I get a lot of my info from twitter accounts, both jihadist and pro SAA. If you like I can put some of those links here.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

No. Not a lot of hype. That's similar to what Obama said about them not too long ago.

Yet, they behead Christians. They rape women and children. They cage people and set them on fire. They sell women into slavery. No. Not a lot of hype. They are haters of God. They have weapons and use them on the unarmed, the weak, those who can't defend themselves. All that is true. And that's not hype.

I agree they are very evil, but they are not a real army. Just a big group of mercenary terrorists.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

What ISIS is now up against in Syria - SU-34s with satellite-guided bombs. btw, they bombed ISIS in Raqqa and Deir Ezzor 13 hrs ago.

https://twitter.com/PetoLucem

 

[GodIsSalvation]

No they haven't prevailed against greater forces. Mosul wasn't overthrown; it was deserted because the military leaders there were in cahoots with ISIS and abandoned the Iraqi army there. They haven't defeated any superior forces. The only way they can win territory is when they vastly outnumber its defenders and swarm in like Mad Max marauders. That can't happen anymore with satellite intel. And they really haven't gained much territory. They got Idlib, but that was because Turkey made that happen. Once the Turkish border is sealed new recruits will be no more. Besides their sponsors are starting to abandon them.

That even shows in part why they prevail for the moment besides the merits of their own force. The forces supposed to be against them are in disarray and all fighting each other or have no morale. Though I still think it an underestimation of them. Indeed they're not an army in the modern-traditional sense, and they are not very sophisticated by war technology at all. However they have proven themselves the most victorious military faction for at least the past 3 years going by sheer military gains and success. Everything turns in it's time though, even the Nazis had their time at the top, they will indeed be defeated some day. They will be destroyed at the full measure of their evil. Not far from now, but never close enough until the day it happens.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Interactive Map of Russian Airstrikes

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z4PF1SFiMPjQ.kFa_qMMdFl48

From:

https://twitter.com/radicalenzyme

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

461 days of the US led coalition against ISIS (That is 1 year, 3 months and 5 days) and no significant advancement against ISIS. All that time, and ISIS did not withdraw from a single area in Syria other than Ain al-Arab.

48 hours into the Syrian-Russian joint air operations, and ISIS already withdrew from all of its points on the Damascus - Dair al-Zoor highway.

https://www.facebook.com/syrianmilitary

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Russia moving fast to shutdown Turkish border.

https://twitter.com/agitpapa/status/650052814362804224

Border area between Samandag-Reyhanli being bombed intensely. This area full of jihadist camps, arms depots, weapons shops.

RU airstrikes are 2km from TR border. Tayyip's "rules of engagement" have gone up in flames and his Al Qaeda terrorists are fertilizer now.​

Read somewhere else that 10 large transport planes landed in Latakia today. Big buildup underway.

More from above site:

BREAKING RUAF bombed FSA, Ahrar & Nusra targets & supply lines on the Turkish border 1 hr ago. Total washout 4 TR dictator Tayyip.

A SyAF Mig-29 & a Pantsir SAM radar-locked 2 Turkish F-16s 4 52 secs today. Russia openly humiliating a NATO country while US looks on.

Obama leaving Tayyip 2 twist in the wind, hoist by his own petard.

RU airstrikes are 2km from Turkish border. Tayyip's "rules of engagement" have gone up in flames and his Al Qaeda terrorists are fertilizer now.

Russian jets bombed Turkmen Mts on Turkish border.

Turkmen Mts & Mt. Al Dwela area bombed by RuAF full of Al Qaeda & Turkmen fascist bases: Rabia, Bdama, Darkoush, Salqin, Harem, Atmeh. Rats thought this was safe area protected by Turkey so they brought their families there. Many jihadist wives and children may be killed.

Al Qaeda rats already whining "Russian planes hitting Turkmens & civilians on Turkish border" .

RuAF bombed Sultan Murat & Sultan Selim brigades (run by Turkey) 5 km from Samandag 2 hrs ago.​

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Oh this is priceless.

"Part of the terrorists managed to retreat. Part were exchanged for captives. Part of the civilians were exchanged for food and tobacco. Islamists were out of food. Poisoned tobacco killed several tens of militants. Brutal war has no rules."

[video=youtube;1zlBDMr14CI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=1zlBDMr14CI[/video]