Classic Russian double-cross: U.S.-backed separtists are bombing targets

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Viligant_Warrior

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CIA-backed rebels, civilians reportedly targeted by Russian airstrikes in Syria

Russia's first airstrikes in Syria Wednesday targeted areas held by rebels receiving arms, funding, and training from the CIA and killed dozens of civilians, according to U.S. officials and published reports.

The Syrian National Council, a group opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, told Sky News that at least 36 people had been killed by airstrikes in the western city of Homs, including five children. Khaled Khoja, the SNC's leader, told Sky that none of the four areas targeted by Russian planes Wednesday contained ISIS fighters and called Moscow's claim that it was helping the U.S.-led coalition defeat the terror group "baseless."

A senior U.S. defense official said the Russian strikes targeted fighters in the vicinity of Homs, located roughly 60 miles east of a Russian naval facility in Tartus, and were carried out by a "couple" of Russian bombers. In a video released by the U.S.-backed rebel group Tajamu Alezzah, jets are seen hitting a building claimed to be a location of the group in the town of Latamna in the central Hama province.
Homs, of course, is the rebel capitol. The nearest ISIS activity is some 85 miles to the southeast. The sheer gutlessness of our clown-in-chief continues to dumbfound.
 
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Homs is a governate, and not just a city, so ISIS is in Homs. But who really cares if the US-backed rebels are killed; they're all jihadists anyways. They get trained by the US and then turn their weapons over to Al-Queda when they get to Syria. I hope Russia and China kill them all.
 

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Wasn't ISIS a break off originally from the Syrian rebels? It would stand to reason if Russia is there to protect Assad they will go after the rebels as well.
 
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Wasn't ISIS a break off originally from the Syrian rebels? It would stand to reason if Russia is there to protect Assad they will go after the rebels as well.
No, ISIS started in Iraq during the surge (mid-2000s). It was composed of former Baathists (Sadaam's military leaders) and Sunnis radicalized by the surge. They were initially called ISI (Islamic State in Iraq), but they expanded into Syria when it got destabilized and changed their name to ISIL/ISIS.
 
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Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov has just said that he will send troops to Syria if Putin requests them. Back in Dec 2014 about 10,000 Chechen military personnel and special forces submitted their resignation from the army to become a private volunteer army for Putin to send anywhere in the world to fight Islamic terrorism. Looks like that moment has arrived. Here's a video of them. All of these guys are Muslims. Interesting at the end when they all shout Allahu Ackbar.

[video=youtube;Irj_4IVLBP8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irj_4IVLBP8[/video]
 
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Viligant_Warrior

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A guy who looks like this best be your friend. I'm guessing this is Kadyrov on a good day ...

Either that, or someone just crapped in his Cheerios.
 
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A guy who looks like this best be your friend. I'm guessing this is Kadyrov on a good day ...

Either that, or someone just crapped in his Cheerios.
He and his army messed up the Chechen terrorists pretty bad. He wants to get rid of them in Syria before they return to Chechnya.
 
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Wasn't ISIS a break off originally from the Syrian rebels? It would stand to reason if Russia is there to protect Assad they will go after the rebels as well.
U.S. - against Isis, for "non isis syrian rebels", against assad.

Russia - For Assad, against Isis, against rebels

I'm rooting for Russia here personally. Our government no longer has the morality left in them for me to respect any of their choices. A lot of the weapons we have sent the rebels ended up directly in the hands of Isis. The U.S. As it is right now is not competent enough to do anything good in that area of the world.
 
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U.S. - against Isis, for "non isis syrian rebels", against assad.

Russia - For Assad, against Isis, against rebels

I'm rooting for Russia here personally. Our government no longer has the morality left in them for me to respect any of their choices. A lot of the weapons we have sent the rebels ended up directly in the hands of Isis. The U.S. As it is right now is not competent enough to do anything good in that area of the world.
Has it come to your attention that Russian aircraft are not bombing ISIS, but Syrian rebel positions?
 
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Has it come to your attention that Russian aircraft are not bombing ISIS, but Syrian rebel positions?
They bomb both groups. Rebels and Isis, they are both islamic jihadi groups. Both Russia and the U.S. Are anti ISIS. The difference is, U.S. Is pro rebel and anti Assad while Russia is pro Assad and anti rebel. Assad and Russia have always been allies. The rebels are armed and supported by the West (regime change is the goal there obviously). Of course they are bombing rebels. Nobody is trying to hide that.
 
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Sorry, DF, but there is zero evidence they have hit ISIS targets.
They said they were going to bomb then before they did, they released a video of them bombing an ISIS position, and they confirmed the bombing after they bombed them. If thats not evidence, all you can say is that these are all bold faced lies. ISIS wants Assad out too and Russia is only there to support Assad. No doubt they bomb rebels as well, but do you really believe they are not bombing ISIS and actively avoiding them somehow? Please. They are a bigger threat than the western backed rebels are. Theres no logical reason for them not to be bombing ISIS. Unless you think there is some Russian conspiracy to ally with ISIS and overthrow Assad, thats a really illogical line of thinking.

The U.S. just doesn't like the fact that Russia bombs the extremists that are western backed as well.
 
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They said they were going to bomb then before they did, they released a video of them bombing an ISIS position ...
No, they did not. They claimed it was an ISIS position. Comparing military satellite images with terrain data, Pentagon analysts were able to show that they bombed Homs, the rebel capitol, and outlying areas of defense positions for Free Syrian opposition. It cannot be shown that Russia has yet hit ISIS positions.
 
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They said they were going to bomb then before they did, they released a video of them bombing an ISIS position ...
This will prove what I said in the last post.

US Has No Clue Who Russia is Bombing in Syria, But It’s Not ISIS

Russia began airstrikes in Syria allegedly against “terrorists” today, but an unnamed U.S. official told Reuters that the planes do not appear to be targeting areas held by the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL).
Russia has no intention of hitting ISIS. Syria and Russia both are interested in increasing the price of oil worldwide. Putin thinks this might accomplish that goal. Obama is right about one thing: Russia's intervention is from a position of weakness, not strength.
 
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didymos

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Classic Russian Double Cross?
It's even worse, they even use the TRIPLE Cross... :rolleyes:

 
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No, they did not. They claimed it was an ISIS position. Comparing military satellite images with terrain data, Pentagon analysts were able to show that they bombed Homs, the rebel capitol, and outlying areas of defense positions for Free Syrian opposition. It cannot be shown that Russia has yet hit ISIS positions.
Yes, they claimed it was an ISIS position. The Pentagon also claimed it was not. Just because the pentagon says something does not make it so anymore than it does for Russia. And its not surprising that they bombed Homs. ISIS has been active in that area since before the Russians even started air strikes (this is well known). Here is an article about them being there from early last month ​ISIS captures last oil field under Syrian government control - CBS News
 
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This will prove what I said in the last post.

Russia has no intention of hitting ISIS. Syria and Russia both are interested in increasing the price of oil worldwide. Putin thinks this might accomplish that goal. Obama is right about one thing: Russia's intervention is from a position of weakness, not strength.
An unnamed U.S. official anonomously says Russia is not targeting ISIS, when Assad has been fighting them for years and Russia is there to support Assad so you believe that no problem. Russian officials publicly go on the record stating what they are doing before they do it and after they did it, provide video footage......but you won't believe them. Im not seeing the logic in that reasoning.
 

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This will prove what I said in the last post.

Russia has no intention of hitting ISIS. Syria and Russia both are interested in increasing the price of oil worldwide. Putin thinks this might accomplish that goal. Obama is right about one thing: Russia's intervention is from a position of weakness, not strength.
Just think. When all is over here, Russia will control the price of oil in a large part of the nations with significant reserves. If I were in Europe, I would at least begin to worry. Here in the Good Ole US, we have enough oil to meet our national needs for the foreseeable future, unless we are dumb enough to allow it to be exported.