'Pedophilia is OK,' says Priest

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Priest suspended after defending pedophilia in TV interview

... A Trento, Italy, Catholic priest was suspended after defending pedophilia during a television interview.
The Rev. Gino Flaim said he "understands pedophilia" as an attempt by children to find affection.
He told Italy's La7 television channel, "I've been to lots of schools, and I know children. Unfortunately there are children who seek affection because they don't receive it at home and I understand that some priests can give up. Pedophilia is a sin, and like all sins has to be accepted." He was less forgiving of homosexuality, referring to it as a "disease."

Flaim's comments resulted in his immediate suspension from his position at Trento's San Giuseppe and Pio X parish, and came as Pope Francis convened a global synod of 300 bishops on family issues, including the church's attitude toward homosexuality. Monday the pope urged the church to "move forward," noting it is not "a museum to keep or preserve."

Meanwhile, local media reported a Trento monastery has become a site the Vatican employs to "cure" gay priests. Former priest Mario Bonfante, who revealed in 2012 he is gay, told newspaper La Repubblica on Monday the Venturini monastery is a clinic for pedophile, alcoholic and drug-addicted priests, as well as for those "who show inappropriate sexual tendencies."

Prior to the synod, the Rev. Krzysztof Charamsa, a Vatican priest, revealed he is in a gay relationship and is challenging the church's "backward" views on homosexuality.

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Source: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/10/07/Priest-suspended-after-defending-pedophilia-in-TV-interview/7331444225296/
 

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The Rev. Gino Flaim said . . . Pedophilia is a sin, and like all sins has to be accepted
In an effort to be more Christ-like, I ask for words of kindness and understanding regarding this priest, because if he was within arms length of me at this moment, I fear my wrath upon him would have irreparable consequences.
 
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degenerates come wearing all sorts of costumes
 
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Since I have dealt with clients afflicted with this for decades I know that the priest is partially correct.... In that some children actually will initiate this kind interaction because of need for even the negative attention of child abuse.

But, that is no excuse for the reciprocal behavior on the part of ANY adult. This is a standard and classic excuse child molesters almost all begin by hiding behind. It can sometimes take months, or even years, to get this warped notion straightened out in their minds. And sometimes, sad to say, it never happens.
 
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Sin of any sort is never to be accepted !!!

With that being said though just like all other sins it can be forgiven and like Willie-T says it does take time on both parts the victim and the person who committed the act to move forward. Sometimes yes this never happens which is sad, as the consequence of the act will carry over still in their lives.

To try and separate pedophilia from homosexuality like the priest did is wrong, as they are both sexual immorality sins that need to be addressed, repented of, and lead away from.
 
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Sin of any sort is never to be accepted !!!

With that being said though just like all other sins it can be forgiven and like Willie-T says it does take time on both parts the victim and the person who committed the act to move forward. Sometimes yes this never happens which is sad, as the consequence of the act will carry over still in their lives.

To try and separate pedophilia from homosexuality like the priest did is wrong, as they are both sexual immorality sins that need to be addressed, repented of, and lead away from.
Yes, they are both sins... like much of the stuff "we" do almost daily.

But I do want to specifically point out that they are NOT, necessarily, connected........ as in: If you are homosexual, you are also inclined toward children. This is entirely a paranoid fabrication.
 
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Yes, they are both sins... like much of the stuff "we" do almost daily.

But I do want to specifically point out that they are NOT, necessarily, connected........ as in: If you are homosexual, you are also inclined toward children. This is entirely a paranoid fabrication.

Yes I get tired of hearing that to that homosexuals are more inclined to commit pedophilia then straight people.

I have done prison ministry and those I have met in prison for the crime of pedophilia, most of them where straight not gay. This is just one of many lies that society and our controlled media sources lie to the public about to keep people in the dark about the truth.

Until people stop listening to media sources and even bias polls instead of actually talking to people who have been in and through these situations they will most likely always be lead in lies.
 

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Priest suspended after defending pedophilia in TV interview

... A Trento, Italy, Catholic priest was suspended after defending pedophilia during a television interview.
The Rev. Gino Flaim said he "understands pedophilia" as an attempt by children to find affection.
He told Italy's La7 television channel, "I've been to lots of schools, and I know children. Unfortunately there are children who seek affection because they don't receive it at home and I understand that some priests can give up. Pedophilia is a sin, and like all sins has to be accepted." He was less forgiving of homosexuality, referring to it as a "disease."

Flaim's comments resulted in his immediate suspension from his position at Trento's San Giuseppe and Pio X parish, and came as Pope Francis convened a global synod of 300 bishops on family issues, including the church's attitude toward homosexuality. Monday the pope urged the church to "move forward," noting it is not "a museum to keep or preserve."

Meanwhile, local media reported a Trento monastery has become a site the Vatican employs to "cure" gay priests. Former priest Mario Bonfante, who revealed in 2012 he is gay, told newspaper La Repubblica on Monday the Venturini monastery is a clinic for pedophile, alcoholic and drug-addicted priests, as well as for those "who show inappropriate sexual tendencies."

Prior to the synod, the Rev. Krzysztof Charamsa, a Vatican priest, revealed he is in a gay relationship and is challenging the church's "backward" views on homosexuality.






Source: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/10/07/Priest-suspended-after-defending-pedophilia-in-TV-interview/7331444225296/
Unless of course it was their kids...oops, priests aren't allowed to marry...there's half the problem.
 
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Yes, they are both sins... like much of the stuff "we" do almost daily.

But I do want to specifically point out that they are NOT, necessarily, connected........ as in: If you are homosexual, you are also inclined toward children. This is entirely a paranoid fabrication.

Moderators I dont know if this is allowed,remove this post if you must.I do not want to break the rules but in answer to what you said Willie can you explain this article to me? I hope you see it before its removed....

http://nambla.org/pederasty.html
 
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Moderators I dont know if this is allowed,remove this post if you must.I do not want to break the rules but in answer to what you said Willie can you explain this article to me? I hope you see it before its removed....

http://nambla.org/pederasty.html
I suspect, since we're all adults, (well, at least we're supposed to be lol), it is allowed, but I would like you (plural "you," not picking on Kayla -- just making a general suggestion to all) to consider something on a different direction.

There are over 1 billion websites on the Internet and growing every day. Let's say your selling something common. I'll pick apples, since I just picked some up at the store. How many other sites are selling apples too? How do I get my apple site up in the front of the search engine results page? (SERP) One of the best ways is to get it mentioned in a link on other sites, because SERP bots look for that. The more inbound links, the higher up the chain for that product or service. (The goal is in the first three slots, because that's usually all the further any of is go to find a site.)

The site you listed is already on the top tier for that "service" on the SERPs, so it's not like your link put it there. But the other side of the equation is how to get it down to the bottom of the SERPs -- way back on page 5,226 where no one goes. Instead of linking to that page, link to a page that blasts that page.

Good idea?

BTW, this is exactly the stuff humanists do to set their agenda on the first SERP while many of us believers have no idea that's happening, nor do we think it's so bad that it matters. But I've been online since the early 1990's, read many pages on conservative issues that can no longer be found because of this strategy. Humanists worked the system while believers thought everyone was playing fair.

We really do need to be as wise as serpents, because look what the Internet has become while we were busy being as gentle as lambs.

This same principle happens while we all link to articles on this forum too. If we want to present an idea, how about taking the extra step by linking to an article/video that tells the whole story -- including the Christian side?

Again, I'm not scolding. I'm really not. I just happened to know something of SEO (Search Engine Optimizing) that address a problem we don't know we're helping to cause.
 
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Moderators I dont know if this is allowed,remove this post if you must.I do not want to break the rules but in answer to what you said Willie can you explain this article to me? I hope you see it before its removed....

http://nambla.org/pederasty.html
No, thankfully, I can't say I can explain these people any more than I can explain people who want to marry their pets.

Just what is it you are hoping to have explained to you?
 
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Moderators I dont know if this is allowed,remove this post if you must.I do not want to break the rules but in answer to what you said Willie can you explain this article to me? I hope you see it before its removed....

http://nambla.org/pederasty.html
i wish I could un see this....
ugh
 
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magicrick

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"pedophilia is ok but homosexuality isn't?" Gosh what a selfserving hypocrite.
 
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No, thankfully, I can't say I can explain these people any more than I can explain people who want to marry their pets.

Just what is it you are hoping to have explained to you?


​I may pm you on it,if you dont mind....
 
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​I may pm you on it,if you dont mind....
I don't mind. But I won't have any answers. I'm not a Behavioral Psychiatrist. I simply facilitated Behavioral Modification Classes for Sex Offenders. I worked for and under a Psychologist and simply focused on correcting faulty learning patterns with our clients.
 
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Priest suspended after defending pedophilia in TV interview
The Rev. Gino Flaim said he "understands pedophilia" as an attempt by children to find affection.
I have never heard this idea before. Sexual dis-interested children as seeking out in-appropriate acts with adults?
To my knowledge this is only happens where children are exposed to some form of pornography, or inappropriate behaviour etc.

No adult should ever condone and suggest this is anything else than inappropriate. As a dad, if one had a gun, its use would suddenly come to mind if any adult with such ideas came anywhere near kids.
 
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I have never heard this idea before. Sexual dis-interested children as seeking out in-appropriate acts with adults?
To my knowledge this is only happens where children are exposed to some form of pornography, or inappropriate behaviour etc.

No adult should ever condone and suggest this is anything else than inappropriate. As a dad, if one had a gun, its use would suddenly come to mind if any adult with such ideas came anywhere near kids.
I wouldn't even mind doing the time...not even a little bit
 
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Guys, guys. Don't be too quick to dismiss kid's pretty clear recognition of one particular part of their bodies that they seem to instinctively derive a lot of pleasure from. What's the main place we had to teach them not to be touching while in public? C'mon, you know. I sure remember what a constant battle that training was. We all do, if we are honest.

Yes, it takes a perverted adult to exploit that, but we all know kids do respond... and remember.
 

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Homosexuals are not automatically pedophiles. While science has performed studies that show that the same 'wiring' anomalies that create homosexuality also have to do with creating pedophilia, there is absolutely no cause to show that homos are automatically pedos.

The reference to nambla touches upon a group of homos who do cross over to pedophilia. But this group can in no way be taken to indicate that all homos are attracted to little boys. That would be equivalent to saying all heteros are attracted to little girls. Even tho some are, as a whole they are not. They are a very small subset of their own.

But in any event, they are both (all?) sins of the flesh and not to be accepted.

Now if you don't mind, this whole issue has given me the heeby-geebies. I'm going to go take a shower!
 
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I wouldn't even mind doing the time...not even a little bit
You've not done time. Beware of what you say.

Pedophiles are highly unlikely to be rehabilitated. I know Willie can probably vouch for that in his experience. It is not my area of specialty, so I can't speak authoritatively on it either. But I've seen the statistics for recovery, and they are not good. Some claim as good as 80%. That's B/S. You don't get anywhere near that kind of recovery rate among addiction clients, and pedophilia goes much deeper than addiction.

Addiction recovery is about 12% after first-time treatment. With pedophiles, the rate is microscopic, less than two percent even after a third conviction and treatment.