McCarthy out, so now who?

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If not McCarthy, who? Republicans scramble for speaker pick after drop-out

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy's stunning decision Thursday to withdraw from the race for speaker leaves Republicans scrambling to find that elusive candidate who can unite the divided conference and actually win a majority on the floor.

The California Republican's abrupt withdrawal is a testament to how undesirable John Boehner's job really is. As GOP leader, McCarthy immediately was deemed the front-runner and was thought to have more than enough support to win the party nomination in a vote originally set for Thursday afternoon.

Now, it's unclear whether more candidates will enter the race or whether the field will stand as is, with Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, and Rep. Daniel Webster, R-Fla., vying for the job.
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The vacuousness of the Republican "leadership" became fully known today. They have no desire to allow the "people's house' function as it should, to debate the issues most on the minds of their constituents and pass legislation that meets the concerns of those constituents.

McCarthy is as morally bankrupt as Boehner, and despite there being a couple candidates who would improve the Republican image to the American voter, they don't want to hold nominations, or vote on a new Speaker. The utter nonsense is palpable. You could cut it with a knife.
 
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Rep. Chaffetz and Rep. Webster are, both of them, pretty decent choices for Speaker.

The establishment is yearning for Paul Ryan because he is the last valuable card they have to play to maintain their power. Conservatives will vote for him as well.

This leaves Mr. Ryan with an interesting question- does he want to sacrifice his dreams of being President (an unlikely outcome) to be potentially the second most powerful person in the US Government?
 
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@Desdichado Yes I have seen Chaffetz and Webster's names mentioned as likely choices. Do not see why them in particular though. Had only heard of Paul Ryan mentioned today. I had not thought of him before, but I think he would be one worthy of consideration. I don't think Ryan wants to become President, and I don't think he should either. Not for any malice, but he serves us best for the current time at least in the Congress.

I do not take Boehner's resignation as good. The Iran Deal is the most pressing political issue pertaining to US government for the current moment. Boehner has been our most effective government ally on this issue by inviting Netanyahu to Congress and buying us time with his delay tactics, and even getting some of the Dems to our side, but that time runs out very soon. America has gotten side-tracked away from this pertinent issue.

The next Speaker must be equally or even more forceful and cunning in stopping this so-called "deal", the conditions of which are truly unacceptable. I know nothing of Chaffetz, Webster, or Paul Ryan's takes on this issue. None of them seem strong enough, or even as equally as strong as Boehner on trying to stop this parody of a deal with Iran. Whomever is Speaker will become Speaker during the metaphorical 4th down, and the game is very close.
 
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Chaffetz and Webster have both thrown their hats into the ring. Paul Ryan's name is merely speculative at this point.

Chaffetz's voting record is (slightly) more conservative than Webster's but Webster has experience as speaker of the Florida House. He wouldn't be new to this.
 
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Prediction: Ryan will be the next speaker. Mark it down.
 
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Despite my absolute confidence of the statement on this thread yesterday that Ryan would acquiesce, I may have to revise that now ...

Ryan rebuffs growing appeals to run for speaker, Issa weighs bid

Rep. Paul Ryan doubled down Friday on his refusal to run for House speaker despite appeals from the top echelons of the party, in the aftermath of Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy bowing out of the race and throwing the leadership contest into chaos.

Whether the party pressure might compel Ryan to reconsider remains to be seen. In the meantime, only a handful of candidates have put themselves forward, tentatively or officially.

The latest is Rep. Darrell Issa, former chairman of the House oversight committee, who told CNBC he's "considering whether or not to put my name in the hat." Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, R-Fla., also is considering a run.
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I still think there's a decent chance Ryan can be prevailed upon to become Speaker, but he seems to be more resistant than I expected him to be. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

None of that really addresses the true issue, which is not the dysfunction of the GOP in determining a Speaker, but the complete dysfunction of the government in general.

I never thought I'd feel this way, but I am slowly coming to the realization that we may need to revise the electoral system to account adequately for minority parties, or abolish parties all together. The latter would force candidates to run solely on their personal platforms.
 
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