What really motivates Islamic violence?

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HeraldtheNews

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What really motivates Islamic violence?

There's peaceful Muslims of course, but, for the most part, Islam is a confused religion without a purpose or message or direction, obsessed with meaningless religious legalism, oppressing women, and with destroying anyone who opposes them, even their own people or themselves, like the devil is obsessed with delusional destruction. Even ancient Judaism's religious laws pointed to fulfillment of the law in the Jewish Messiah, and the law of grace, love and mercy. If Islam and the Q'uran is followed to it's logical conclusion, and God knows they take it seriously, the logical result is idolatry, spiritual blindness, legalistic bondage, and violence. The attackers in France were not terrorists, they were acting as true Muslims and Islamic jihad is actively supported by tens of millions of Muslims and tens of millions more through their silence, because it's at the core of their religion.

Legalism dies hard. Even after the Apostle Paul was converted from religious legalism through a dramatic encounter with Christ after His ressurrection, and worked tirelessly as one of the greatest heroes of Christianity to teach that Jesus came to save us from this, 2000 years later, even many of us as Christians are still obsessed with legalism including even Pentecostals, Baptists and Catholics, and even state justice is obsessed with legalistic atonement of sins. That's why knowing Jesus has to begin with the free-gift of Christmas...
Being born into Heaven (wedding);
And a faithful life (marriage);
This is true freedom--
Freedom from religion...
 
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John 10:10 (KJV) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
 

Magenta

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What really motivates Islamic violence?
Their book promotes it. Islam has been spread by the sword from it's inception.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
 

Magenta

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http://www.fortressoffaith.org/blog/2015/11/16/islamic-attack-in-paris/

The 6th pillar, jihad, is not officially taught in the Islamic scriptures, but it is a reality in practice. Muhammad did say:

“Standing for an hour in the ranks of battle is better than standing in prayer for sixty years.” – Saheeh related by Ibn Ade and Ibn Asakir from Abu Hurayrah 4/6165

Here is what these terrorists expected when they gave up their lives as Shahids (martyrs):
1. He is forgiven from the moment his blood is first shed.
2. He will be shown his place in Paradise.
3. He will be spared the trial of the grave.
4. He will be secure on the Day of Judgment.
5. Upon his head will be placed a crown of dignity, one ruby of which is better than this world and all that is in it.
6. He will be married to seventy-two virgins, and he will be able to ravage them through all eternity.
7. He will be permitted to intercede for seventy of his relatives.
 

Billyd

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http://www.fortressoffaith.org/blog/2015/11/16/islamic-attack-in-paris/

The 6th pillar, jihad, is not officially taught in the Islamic scriptures, but it is a reality in practice. Muhammad did say:

“Standing for an hour in the ranks of battle is better than standing in prayer for sixty years.” – Saheeh related by Ibn Ade and Ibn Asakir from Abu Hurayrah 4/6165

Here is what these terrorists expected when they gave up their lives as Shahids (martyrs):
1. He is forgiven from the moment his blood is first shed.
2. He will be shown his place in Paradise.
3. He will be spared the trial of the grave.
4. He will be secure on the Day of Judgment.
5. Upon his head will be placed a crown of dignity, one ruby of which is better than this world and all that is in it.
6. He will be married to seventy-two virgins, and he will be able to ravage them through all eternity.
7. He will be permitted to intercede for seventy of his relatives.
Lately there has been a lot of women martyrs, what is granted to them?
 

themusicmiss

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I'm a bit confused on the origins of the grant list, specifically numbers 6 and 7... I am somewhere between horrified and quite fascinated by the intentions of these people and don't know whether to even call them ISIS anymore, can we label them as extremists??
 

Magenta

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Lately there has been a lot of women martyrs, what is granted to them?
Maybe they will be spared being molested for an eternity.
 

Magenta

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I'm a bit confused on the origins of the grant list, specifically numbers 6 and 7... I am somewhere between horrified and quite fascinated by the intentions of these people and don't know whether to even call them ISIS anymore, can we label them as extremists??
It is what Muslims are taught about being assured of their salvation. Suicide is the one of the only ways, holy jihad. One of the perks of killing yourself for the cause is being able to have sex for eternity with seventy two virgins.

Check out the link I provided.


Islamic Attack In Paris | Fortress of Faith
 

Magenta

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Scriptures tell us that those chosen of God know His voice. We heed Him, because we know Who He is.

My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

Contrast with Mohammed's story. As you know, the Koran originated with Mohammed. He claims to have been accosted by a spirit, he did not know who or what it was. Later he allowed his wife and another relative to convince him that it was the angel Gabriel. Never did Mohammed claim to hear from God or Allah. It was all "dictated" by this unknown jinn, and then added to later to suit Mohammed, such as him being granted the right to have more wives than anybody else. Verses had to be removed because they were ascertained to have been Satanic in origin. Surely you have heard of those?

http://www.thespiritofislam.com/mohammed-jesus/28-was-muhammad-a-true-prophet.html

By the time the Koran was written down, four generations of leaders following the death of Mohammed, seven oral versions existed. At some point all known copies of the Koran were destroyed due to contradictions and error found in them.
 

Billyd

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It is what Muslims are taught about being assured of their salvation. Suicide is the one of the only ways, holy jihad. One of the perks of killing yourself for the cause is being able to have sex for eternity with seventy two virgins.

Check out the link I provided.


Islamic Attack In Paris | Fortress of Faith
Only 72 virgins for eternity?
 

Magenta

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Tom Wallace (of Fortress of Faith) was accosted at the Canadian border and had his materials seized as hate speech. Why? Because he teaches on the teachings of Islam. Islam itself is hate speech. If you tell the truth about Mohammed, you put your life at risk, and are accused of blasphemy. Mohammed was a war mongering adulterous pedophile. That is the truth about Mohammed, the leader/hero Muslims follow.
 

Magenta

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Management of Savagery (the book) discusses the need to create and manage nationalist and religious resentment and violence in order to create long-term propaganda opportunities for jihadist groups. Notably, Naji discusses the value of provoking military responses from superpowers in order to recruit and train guerilla fighters and to create martyrs. Naji suggests that a long-lasting strategy of attrition will reveal fundamental weaknesses in the ability of superpowers to defeat committed jihadists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_Savagery
 

notuptome

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Hate is the motivation. They are of their father the devil and his will they must do. Hate and destruction are in their ways. They have been fighting and killing for thousands of years. They are tribal and they obtain what they want by taking from those who have and consuming it upon their lusts.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

HeraldtheNews

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Mohammed was a war mongering adulterous pedophile. That is the truth about Mohammed, the leader/hero Muslims follow.
Wow. God will bless you for having the courage to say that, and with His protection.
Was Tom Wallace going into Canada or out?
 

Magenta

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Wow. God will bless you for having the courage to say that, and with His protection.
Was Tom Wallace going into Canada or out?
He was coming into Canada: it was Canadian customs' officials who apprehended his teaching materials under suspicion they were hate speech, when in reality all it was, is teachings on what the Koran teaches. It was subsequently all returned to him, and no charges were laid against him. Good thing, too, for he does not promote hatred at all, simply exposes Islam for what it is. When this happened, almost two years ago, I reported it on the site where I was talking mostly to non-believers, and they did not believe me LOL. Apparently, anything a Christian says to an atheist has to be false, after all, no matter what it is. ;)

Read about the incident in question here:


http://www.fortressoffaith.org/blog/2014/01/22/hate-speech/
 

Magenta

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You forgot 'illiterate' :rolleyes:
It is true that Mohammed was illiterate, and that no doubt contributed to his inability to attain any proper grasp of what Scripture actually teaches, though we know that is also impossible without the Holy Spirit of God, which Mohammed was also lacking. Aside from that, there is no moral fault to be found in being illiterate, unlike the attributes of being an adulterous war mongering pedophile.
 
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Bacon. They secretly like bacon and once they establish their worldwide caliphate they will deem it an acceptable food item.
 
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Bacon. They secretly like bacon and once they establish their worldwide caliphate they will deem it an acceptable food item.
Too funny!!!!!!!!! :cool:;):p