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p_rehbein

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Trump: do we kill family members of ISIS terrorists?

Trump...........says he would be "firm" with their families.......whatever that means.....

Bush calls him out........slaps him......Trump rolls eyes........wish Jeb had the guts to walk over and slap Trump off the stage...........that would be entertainment.......

Bush wins over Trump this time........IMO
 

p_rehbein

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Moderator can't pronounce Nuro Surgeon.......funny........is he tough enough to order air strikes that kills thousands.....?

Cheap shot by moderator........Carson bests the liberal snob........wins applause......

Paul says arming allies of ISIS helped ISIS come to power, people in Congress voted to arm those people.......

Then he goes after Trump............Trump responds.....kinda a draw........Paul asked about Hawks in the Repub Party.....

He says regime change not the answer........arming ISIS allies not the answer......
 

p_rehbein

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Kasich doing pretty well also..........can't spell his name though.......sigh......

Back to Rubio concerning Suni Arab forces.........how would he get them to become more involved, he blames Obama for his partnering with the Shia in Iran and that deal........Rubio does well defending his strategy.....

Fiorina..............her strategy....Bring back warrior class of Generals to lead the war against ISIS.....must have Suni Arabs to join us in the fight........good answers again.......

Christie............goes after the Senators on stage for being in Congress when the Military was degraded through sequester........President MUST be trusted by the world.........Will bring Jordan into the fight

Carson.........must destroy kalifate (whatever) take their oil, shut down their monetary systems........ability to fund their operatives..........shut off supply routes........

America has fobia about boots on ground.......says we must have boots on ground there, or they will have boots on the ground here.........good job by Carson.......he is strengthening his image as Commander in Chief IMO
 

p_rehbein

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Moderators focusing on baiting Trump vs. Bush.......Cruz vs. Rubio......sad that they are taking the bait........guess they have to, time is running out.........someone has to be put out of the race.......

Honestly, Christie and Fiorina have done well, Carson way better than I expected. Bush can say this is the best debate he has had so far, but that isn't saying too much I know.......still.......

Trump scored against Wolf......
 
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Carly's talk is really impressive, and she has a look like she absolutely believes in and will do what she says. I'd love to see her on the ticket somehow, and even as veep, I'd like to have her debate clinton, ... carly would wipe the floor with her. Imo, of course;)
 

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Cruz........world would be safe if Sadaam was still in power......Obama/Clinton toppled Libya government.....now it's a mess......and did this in other places......toppling governments allows ISIS to grow in power.......

Rubio........does he support libya government being toppled........good response overall

Cruz responds..........searching for mythical moderate rebels.......they do not exist they are all radicals.......

Kasich supports Rubio........deal blow to Iran and Russia......

Trump being heckled........ says we should have spent money to repair our roads and infrastructure here, not fight war there.........hmmm........

Fiorina.......that ie EXACTLY what Obama says............Clinton is the one to blame.........for her policies as Sect of State....
again........good........

Trump seems to believe war on terror there was/is a huge mistake.........

Carson...........no one better off with dictators..........think about needs of American people then help out others......we aren't going to fix the middle east with a few bombs and declarations.......

Bush,.........Obama leads from behind.....creates most unstable policy since WWII.........Clinton wants to double down on Obamas policy

Paul.........we have to decide if regime change is a good idea over there........it HAS NOT worked.....only chaos replaces those changes........
 

p_rehbein

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Cruz insists on answering.......the Moderators not happy about that.......

Trump......do one thing at a time.......get rid of ISIS first, then think about regime change and Russia and Iran.....

Christie......focus on priorities what are they.....ISIS created by the Suni's and Syria........and the deal with Iran
Iran and ISIS one causes the other........

Paul....don't engage in regime change........will be fighting against our own weapons......no utopian policy

Kasich......Three state solution to Iraq......Assad ally to Iran.......must go........time to punch Russia in the nose

Fiorina......would not talk to Putin.............defines her statement from past debate......would not speak to him until the US is again in position of strength in the world........would take action not engage in speech......

Good job again by Fiorina....

Christie.......would you shoot down a Russian plane who violated no fly zone..........YES.......

Paul........would you do it.......Paul says if you want WWIII Christie is your candidate.....we need president with judgement he did good until the cheep shot

Paul cheep shot about shutting down a bridge......
 

p_rehbein

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Bush.......better qualified than Trump to be President........goes after Donald again....good one line zinger.......Honestly, Trump needs to practice controlling his facial expressions, they are rather clownish at times

Trump.....chastises CNN for baiting Bush......Bush chastises Donald.....Donald quotes Polls.....they both are eating up the CNN bait...........both looked foolish there.....
 

p_rehbein

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Carson........Commander in Chief question again...can he command troops around the world........

Our Government designed for the Citizen Statesman not Political class.......don't do a lot of talking.......DO A LOT OF DOING......don't have to be loud to be strong......
 

p_rehbein

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Rubio.......question on Immigration and path to citizenship........for undocumented people........Rubio says first secure border, then address legal immigration...........then deal with the illegals here now........only get workers permit......

after 10 years of probationary period with workers permit, then be open to citizenship........

Cruz........is his plan the same as Rubio's.........no.........Border Security is National Security......Rubio backed Obama's plans on immigration.......will build a wall that works and get Trump to pay for it

Rubio......Cruz supports illegal immigrants......Cruz led fight against Rubio's amnesty bill.......Fiorina fed up with their bickering........

Trump......who do you side with.......illegals have to go......come back legally.......then again with building the wall.....but moderating that to a wall that will actually work......maybe he is learning....

Bush.......border must be secured for rule of Law......more fencing, technology, and work with Local Law Enforcement....the real problem is Obama, not folks on stage.......

Carson.......about his trip overseas............responds that the people there want to be resettled in their own country not the US........want us to support those working to do that.......Have Kurds assist in this and support Kurds directly not through Iraq government........

Paul......opposes Syrian refugees.......blames Rubio.........Rubio responds.......Rubio responds well...........

Paul.......would not send anyone home that are here now.......just going forward to limit immigration..........Gulf Nations need to step up and address the refuge problem

Girl from Texas asks Bible related question

Christie.......protect Americans first is the Presidents job..........until all can be truly vetted, keep them out

Kasich for pause..........
 

p_rehbein

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Fiorina.........concerning other world threats.........North Korea.......what about Kim Jung Un........need China to isolate Un,...to get them to cooperate we must respond to their cyber attacks and seizing of areas in South China Sea......and work with Australia

Carson.........Un is unstable, but China has more influence.........China building military rather than feeding their own people......Russia the same......we need to expand our energy to gain control and upgrade military which is outdated.......good answer again

Christie........China cyber warfare........reveal to the Chinese what their Government is doing.........show how corrupt their government is........cyber warfare against them........Obama and Clinton has betrayed American people.......good answer again by him

Bush.......would China attack us........Bush agrees with Christie, does not rise to bait by Moderator.......blames Obama and Clinton..........coordinate with private sector, technology second to none........not just China but Russia and ISIS

Trump.........his response to nuclear triad.........speaks about himself........but says be careful about nuclear power....biggest problem is nuclear power........

Rubio......the triad is the ability of the US to use nuclear war with air power, land power and submarine power need to update all three

Trump............Cruz not qualified to be in control backs off of maniac comment.......spoke of naming Cruz as VP candidate

Cruz..........baiting him to attack Trump.......not taking bait so far.......speaks of commander in chief needing to be able to stand up to defeat ISIS...........and nuclear Iran.......voters must decide who has judgement to be commander in chief.....smacks Wolf.....
 

p_rehbein

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Trump.......will run as Republican........gained respect for Leadership and the people on the stage, his best answer of the night and the year....

Carson........leave Party if the Party acts with dishonesty........Leadership guarantees they will not undermine the will of the people as to who the nominee is.......
 

p_rehbein

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CLOSING COMMENTS COMMING NEXT......

Overall, hard to pick one winner.........will wait for closing comments to see what is what IMO.....

Bush was doing well until that final dust up with Trump.......they both looked childish.......that was the worst exchange of the debate IMO......
 

p_rehbein

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QUESTION WILL BE: WHY VOTE FOR ME?

Paul......greatest threat to National Security is National Debt........both parties at fault.......both spend more on everything will hold line on all spendeing

Kasich: Repubs must win Ohio......reform, hope, growth, opportunity and security........must win Ohio.......we will beat Clinnton

Christie: Restates his experience on 9-11............makes him most qualified to be President......

Fiorina: Put security in place all over the world to protect her employees.......blames Clinton for mess, and both parties for the mess in Washington.........

Bush: Which candidate will keep you and your family and country secure......speaks of his plan and his experience

Rubio: Our identity as a people and a Nation.....millions feeling left behind......restore economy to provide hope to the people and to rebuild our military

Cruz: Judgement, strength, clarity, and trust........invokes Reagan........cut taxes, cutting regulations and rebuilding trerrorism

Carson: preserve America exceptionalism.......belief in God anything is possible

Trump: country doesn't win anymore......his usual stump speech.......nothing works in our country, if he is elected we will win again and will win a lot, and be greater than before.
 

p_rehbein

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MY CLOSING COMMENTS:

Christie and Fiorina scored often........strong debate from them, but neither has the support needed to make strong charge to be Nominee

Bush did well until that last silly set to with Trump

Trump was as silly as Bush in that exchange.......he did score with that last comment where he quasi-apologized to Cruz for calling him a maniac

Cruz was strong but.....not a clear winner IMO

Rubio was strong but.......not a clear winner IMO

So...........IF you supported any one of these before the debate, you probably still support them after the debate.....

I still have not chose who I will support..........sigh......

God bless you all
 

p_rehbein

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Forgot Carson.........his best debate ever......hands down........he beat the moderators at their game of gottcha questions and showed more knowledge than ever before concerning National Security and Foreign Policy......
 

p_rehbein

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Baier's comments.......Rubio and Cruz battle for the heart of Republicans.........Paul had best debate so far...........Bush fell with last exchange.......as I stated too.......if you liked Trump before, you still like him....

Baier mirrors my belief that Trump is promising what he can't deliver...........points out Trumps hypocrisy.......O'Reilly says Trump not living in reality...........

Baier thought CNN did good job........I do not.......too many "bait" questions.........
 

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This was the first time I seen these characters in a 'debate'. Here are my impressions.

Nothing stood out except maybe Rand Paul's rah rah crowd in the corner sounding quite contrived.
Carson struck me as a 'nice guy' who would get bulldozed by Congress and Clinton.
Trump didn't come off like a jerk as the media paints him, but seems to lack depth.
Fiorina? anorexia is not the image America wants to portray during a time of war.
Cruz, Rubio probably the best debaters, but Rubio's kinda slippery.
Christie? I just can't get past his former flip flopping.
Kasich, his last name isn't Obama is it?
Bush was pretty solid...middle of the road.
I'm still stickin with Cruz.
 
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p_rehbein

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This was the first time I seen these characters in a 'debate'. Here are my impressions.

Nothing stood out except maybe Rand Paul's rah rah crowd in the corner sounding quite contrived.
Carson struck me as a 'nice guy' who would get bulldozed by Congress and Clinton.
Trump didn't come off like a jerk as the media paints him, but seems to lack depth.
Fiorina? anorexia is not the image America wants to portray during a time of war.
Cruz, Rubio probably the best debaters, but Rubio's kinda slippery.
Christie? I just can't get past his former flip flopping.
Kasich, his last name isn't Obama is it?
Bush was pretty solid...middle of the road.
Pretty close to my thoughts......except Fiorina has the best prepared answers......she is knowledgeable about various subjects..........but will never get the support she needs......

I don't think people give Carson enough credit...........shouting does not equate to strength......it's the old adage of "you don't want to get the quiet guy angry........."
 

p_rehbein

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K...........I'm whipped..........going to have my milk and go to beddiebye