New problem for Ted Cruz

[Billyd]

Is it time for the courts to decide whether Ted Cruz is eligible to run for president or not? Maybe they will.

Bad news for Ted Cruz: his eligibility for president is going to court - Vox

 

[Desdichado]

If Cruz and his campaign are not prepared for this, they deserve to lose.

 

[Elizabeth619]

It depends on ones interpretation of the constitution. Natural born to me sounds like it would mean born IN the US but some argue this.

 

[Desdichado]

It depends on ones interpretation of the constitution. Natural born to me sounds like it would mean born IN the US but some argue this.

That or an American territory.

 

[notuptome]

He needs to have someone in Hawaii create a birth certificate for him. They did it for someone else recently. All that aside if one parent is a US citizen no matter where the child is born the child is given US citizenship. Cruz and the other guy have dual citizenship.

We give citizenship to children born here even if the parents are undocumented or known to be here by questionable means.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Nautilus]

That or an American territory.

Or to US citizens who might happen to be abroad.

 

[crossnote]

Another misstep for Carson and probably his last.

 

[KimPetras]

He needs to have someone in Hawaii create a birth certificate for him. They did it for someone else recently. All that aside if one parent is a US citizen no matter where the child is born the child is given US citizenship. Cruz and the other guy have dual citizenship.

We give citizenship to children born here even if the parents are undocumented or known to be here by questionable means.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

There are different types of citizenship though. A naturalized citizen is not the same as a natural born.

My understanding of the natural citizenship required to run for President/Vice-President was to eliminate foreign influence. I can understand both arguments.

Here is a tough question: A married American couple, where the man serves in the US military is deployed to Germany. The man moves his wife there. Upon being deployed to Germany, the man's wife gives birth, in Germany, to children.

Would it be fair to disqualify the children from ever being president because they weren't born on US land? I don't think so. I'd like to think a natural born citizen is a citizen born in the US and/or of US parents.

 

[notuptome]

There are different types of citizenship though. A naturalized citizen is not the same as a natural born.

My understanding of the natural citizenship required to run for President/Vice-President was to eliminate foreign influence. I can understand both arguments.

Here is a tough question: A married American couple, where the man serves in the US military is deployed to Germany. The man moves his wife there. Upon being deployed to Germany, the man's wife gives birth, in Germany, to children.

Would it be fair to disqualify the children from ever being president because they weren't born on US land? I don't think so. I'd like to think a natural born citizen is a citizen born in the US and/or of US parents.

In the political arena this is designed to create suspicion around this candidate. There is nothing factual that prevents Cruz from being president only innuendo.

Cruz was not required to become naturalized he was and is a citizen like anyone else born here.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Billyd]

There are different types of citizenship though. A naturalized citizen is not the same as a natural born.

My understanding of the natural citizenship required to run for President/Vice-President was to eliminate foreign influence. I can understand both arguments.

Here is a tough question: A married American couple, where the man serves in the US military is deployed to Germany. The man moves his wife there. Upon being deployed to Germany, the man's wife gives birth, in Germany, to children.

Would it be fair to disqualify the children from ever being president because they weren't born on US land? I don't think so. I'd like to think a natural born citizen is a citizen born in the US and/or of US parents.

There would be absolutely no question if both parents were US citizens. If one parent were German, there is a possible problem. IMHO, the court would (and will in this case) say that one born to any US parent, is considered natural born.

 

[Billyd]

In the political arena this is designed to create suspicion around this candidate. There is nothing factual that prevents Cruz from being president only innuendo.

Cruz was not required to become naturalized he was and is a citizen like anyone else born here.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Agree. I believe that the court, including SCOTUS will concur with us.

 

[Desdichado]

Agree. I believe that the court, including SCOTUS will concur with us.

I agree. And I can almost guarantee the Cruz Campaign anticipated this a long time ago.

 

[notuptome]

I agree. And I can almost guarantee the Cruz Campaign anticipated this a long time ago.

The Trump people know it as well and only talk about it for the political advantage they think it gives them. Kind of petty if you ask me but when doing deals at this level any little thing must be leveraged to the maximum.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Oncefallen]

There are different types of citizenship though. A naturalized citizen is not the same as a natural born.

My understanding of the natural citizenship required to run for President/Vice-President was to eliminate foreign influence. I can understand both arguments.

Here is a tough question: A married American couple, where the man serves in the US military is deployed to Germany. The man moves his wife there. Upon being deployed to Germany, the man's wife gives birth, in Germany, to children.

Would it be fair to disqualify the children from ever being president because they weren't born on US land? I don't think so. I'd like to think a natural born citizen is a citizen born in the US and/or of US parents.

You are correct in your understanding of the reason behind the US Constitution requiring that the President be a natural born citizen.

The constitution in no way defines what constitutes "natural born" means so there are a very small minority of persons who think that Ted Cruz is ineligible because he was not born on US soil. Simply put there are only two types of US citizen, natural born and naturalized.

Ted Cruz did not have to be naturalized because his citizenship was at birth regardless of the fact that he was born in Canada because his mother was a US citizen. US federal law since the 1700's has held that a person born to a US citizen has birthright citizenship regardless of where in the world they were born.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

There are different types of citizenship though. A naturalized citizen is not the same as a natural born.

My understanding of the natural citizenship required to run for President/Vice-President was to eliminate foreign influence. I can understand both arguments.

Here is a tough question: A married American couple, where the man serves in the US military is deployed to Germany. The man moves his wife there. Upon being deployed to Germany, the man's wife gives birth, in Germany, to children.

Would it be fair to disqualify the children from ever being president because they weren't born on US land? I don't think so. I'd like to think a natural born citizen is a citizen born in the US and/or of US parents.

It would depend whether or not the child was born on a US military base or a US government property (ie: a US embassy or consulate) as all US military bases are considered American soil. This angle on the natural born citizen paradigm happened recently in 2008 when McCain ran. McCain was born in Panama, but because he was born on a US military base he is 100% American citizen.

Also a natural born US citizen does not necessarily have to have American parents. Anyone born on US soil is 100% natural born US citizen.